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Posted on 11/10/2004 9:51:59 AM PST by Diago
The Democratic, pro-abortion front group, ACORN, has received millions of dollars raised during Catholic Masses.
Each year, the Catholic Bishop's Campaign for Human Development gives hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN. ACORN is a far left organization that was recently implemented in several outragous cases of voting fraud.
What can we do to stop this?
Can freepers launch an effort to block this with the help of Catholic bloggers?
The collection for the Campaign for Human Develoment is in a couple of weeks. Now is the time to strike!
What can Catholic freepers do to end the outrage of our Bishops giving millions to ACORN? Can we organize to stop this by working with the Catholic bloggers?
If someone comes up with a viable strategy, please let us know.
~dansangel and .45MAN~
Catholics should simply tell their priests that this year their contributions are going directly to Habitat for Humanity, America's Promise, or Chuck Colson's Prison Ministries.
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I would be thrilled if we could stop the gov't. from giving these crooks our tax $. Whatever $ they get from private sources, I will leave it up to the people involved with the source to put the heat on and expose.
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ACORN's principal activity is not voter registration. With some 150,000 dues-paying members organized into 65 city chapters, the group is better known for public disruption. For more than 30 years its "community organizing" has relied on in-your-face confrontation. In 1995, ACORN famously bused in 500 protesters to disrupt a Washington, D.C. speech by House Speaker Newt Gingrich. In 2002, it burst into the Heritage Foundation to harangue welfare-reform expert Robert Rector. Dozen of city councils and state legislatures have had to face angry ACORN protesters demanding higher minimum wages and more welfare entitlements. Banks have been pressured to change their lending practices or face ACORN charges of discrimination before regulators.
ACORN's founder and chief organizer is one Wade Rathke, a veteran activist who is also president of the New Orleans-based Local 100 of the Service Employees International Union. More importantly, Mr. Rathke is chairman of the board of the San Francisco-based Tides Center and a board member of its affiliated Tides Foundation, the left-wing grantmaker that specializes in helping new political advocacy groups get organized. Grants from the Heinz Endowments, whose chairman is Teresa Heinz Kerry, to and from the Tides organizations have been the subject of major news stories recently, which speculate on the impact Mrs. Heinz Kerry's private philanthropy will have on the policies of a Kerry administration. The Tides connection to ACORN raises even more questions.
Clearly, the 2000 election cliffhanger rankles leftist activists. It's no wonder they are determined to change the results in 2004. But will groups like ACORN play fair, and if they don't will they be caught in time?
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20041018-093522-3974r.htm
Habitat for Humanity >>
I've met some of them, most are liberals and build houses in inner cities and not in the burbs next to them. Seems it's ok to build a home in the ghetto where "they" live but not in their own back yard, I was told by some volunteers that "we moved away from them why would we want to build a home in our neighborhood?"
Given the grotesque nature of the scandals in the church in America, it is obvious that the infiltration of the church by anti-Catholic and corrupt elements requires a serious investigation.
What can Catholic freepers do to end the outrage of our Bishops giving millions to ACORN? >>
Give the money to a Right To Life Organization and then write a letter to your pastor and put one letter in the CCHD envelope and the other in the mail to your Bishop explaining why you did this and that you don't agree with giving CCHD money to ACORN and to the other Democrat Socialist Organizations represented in the Campaign which only help democrat politicians in the long run.
I would further point out how disappointed you were at your pastor and bishop for not allowing voter guides to be distributed in the churches and church parking lots and are also annoyed that priests aren't doing enough to fight the culture of death. And ask them why the Pennsylvania Catholic Conference was just about the only state where the bishops approved a Catholic Issues Voter Guide. Seems many bishops did not want President Bush to be reelected.
NJ Freepers, some Schundler and NJ Info on Post 4,
The Catholic Campaign to Help Democrats
Catholic Bishops Gave $472,000 to Vote Fraud Group, ACORN
I-Team investigation uncovers voter registration fraud (Colorado)
I-Team Investigation Uncovers Voter Registration Fraud
For 2002-2003 (2003-04 not up yet)
http://www.usccb.org/cchd/02fund.htm
ARKANSAS
Pulaski County ACORN/Central Arkansas Tenant Organizing Project $20,000
CALIFORNIA
Sacramento ACORN $30,000
San Diego ACORN $32,500
San Francisco ACORN/Neighborhood Empowerment Project $40,000
And it goes on and on. Don't know about anyone else, but instead of putting a check in my envelope that weekend (Nov. 21-22), I'm going to put a note stating that until ACORN gets ZERO from our Church - I will not contribute.
In this day and age, I don't know why a Catholic would put a single penny into a diocesan collection basket.
Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list
Depending on the parish, maybe it is safer to give only to the parish's collection. At least some of the money will hopefully to go the parish itself. That's what I did when I was Anglican, and I carried over that policy when I crossed the Tiber.
You have to be careful what the parish does with the money. Funds can be shifted to give the bishop what he wants.
The local parish uses funds to pay for memberships in Pax Christi.
why would the Catholic Church give any money to ACORN in the first place? What does ACORN do besides political stuff? DOes it engage in lefty "charity" projects that make it attractive to "social justice" type bishops? What's the rationale here? Because I have a hard time seeing even the most liberal leftist bishops giving money to a purely political organization.
I helped them build houses for one day during the summer of 2003. The future owner of that home and her children were on site the entire time working with the volunteers. She seemed grateful and appreciative of the efforts by Habitat and the volunteers.
I would repeat the process as well. It was very gratifying.
One of the reasons Habitat doesn't build houses in the suburbs is because the land is too valuable, the highest development bid wins.
Because we must trust that our collection money is being used for the greater glory of God, that why.
Catholicism is a faith. Its much more than a religion. Keep in mind that Jesus Christ himself in selecting his apostles included one he knew would betray him. We must have faith in God and in each other to do God's will. Not supporting the Church won't solve anything and stands to do more harm to people who actually need those contributions than those who might be getting them through spurious means.
Don't give. I haven't given a dime to CHD in twenty years.
God gave you the intelligence to know when to spot a wolf in sheep's clothing. Continue to give to the perverts as you wish - You'll have some explaining to do.
From http://www.catholiccitizens.org/platform/platformview.asp?c=10015 :
http://catholiccitizens.org/press/pressview.asp?c=8423
Catholic Citizens of Illinois, How One of the Most Potent Weapons Serving the 'Culture of Death'Lies in the Pockets of Catholic Donors
CCI NOTES: The Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD) is an annual collection taken up in Catholic parishes around the United States. Over one third of their grants go to Alinsky-styled political organizations. The largest are the Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF), Pacific Institute for Community Organizing (PICO), Direct Action and Research Training Institute (DART), Gamaliel, and ACORN. ...
These so-called community organizations DO NOT provide direct services to relieve the suffering of the poor, nor do they provide economic development grants for the poor. Rather, they organize institutions - particularly in and around churches - to fight for political power.
Illinois Catholics are advised that in spite of laudable CHD undertakes, your donations are also being used to sabotage Church teachings. Catholic donors to CHD are paying for organizations who fight for health clinics that dispense contraceptives and make abortion referrals. Catholic donors to CHD pay for political organizing that supports pro-abortion politicians. ...
Another CCHD funded network is ACORN, which generally takes 5-6% of the national CCHD annual budget. It's one of the most flagrantly political among CCHD's grantees, having formed a political party, the New Party, in a political alliance with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), among others. ... There's no secret about ACORN's political activism. ... The New Party is pro-abortion. It's website links to such "friends" as the Abortion Rights Activist Home Page, NARAL (National Abortion and Reproduction Rights Action League), and NOW (National Organization for Women). ... ACORN is also pro-abortion. Maud Hurd, ACORN's national president, was a speaker at Expo '96 for Woman's Empowerment. The purpose of the exposition was to develop a response to "the conservative use of ballot initiatives to attack women's rights and to galvanize a right-wing voteŠ"
From:
http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?art_id=800
But there are still reasons for concern.
This year’s "Fight the Right March," run by the National Organization for Women, was endorsed by ACORN (the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), which receives substantial funding from CCHD. In 1999-2000, CCHD granted a total of $517,000 to 17 state and local chapters of ACORN — an 18 percent increase over the previous year’s grants.
Didn't Pope Saint John Paul the Great personally appoint all these ACORN bishops?
What can I say? My bishop flies a Rainbow Gay Pride Flag on his website and a few years ago our diocese was giving money to a group affiliated with NARAL. Our cries for help have been met with silence.
Acorns don't fall far from the tree.
On the contrary, THEY'LL have some explaining to do.
So much more good is done with my contributions than I could ever hope to do alone. If they (whoever they are) persist in their sin and perversion, it is their soul not mine that is at risk of eternal damnation.
The wolf in sheeps clothing is a salient observation. Here is another: Judge not, lest ye shall be judged.
Peace to you...
I'm not judging the state of their souls just their actions - big difference.
It is a pro-abortion, pro socialism baby of the USCCB.
The good news is that any collection associated with the bishops is passed over by the majority in my congregation - I suspect that is the case in many other parishes as well. Anything associated with the bishops is guilty by association to so many Catholics. Incidentally, in my parish we collect for the CCHD earlier in the year - I'm not sure if this is Philly wide or just my parish. This year's CCHD collection netted about 400 dollars. A very poor showing when you consider our first collection nets more than 20 grand a week.
I think our cchd collection is in the spring.
Ours too.
Have you noticed that the bishops have not posted where last year's CCHD money went? I think they're hiding something.
I was able to find an article where they said they gave away 9 million and it named some recipients. I want the complete list.
Our CCHD collection is this Sunday.
Also, I have new evidence that the Diocese of Cleveland is again funding a leftwing group that is an active member of a very pro-abortion umbrella organization. In fact, members of the umbrella organization include an abortion clinic, the Cleveland chapter of the ACLU, and Planned Parenthood. The group that is getting funding are the folks responsible for storming Carl Rove's house erlier this year.
I will post a seperate thread on this later tonight. I would appreaciate it if you could really play up the thread and forward it to outside pro-life groups and conservative websites so that Bishop Pilla will finally wake up!
You will remember a few years ago Freepers were instrumental in killing a Cleveland Diocese grant to a group affiliated with NARAL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b40553a2378.htm
I don't always respond on your threads of Pilla abuses. I suppose I've got AmChurch fatigue. However, I usually scan them to see if there is someone I should be contacting about something, and I do it if I think it can help. I'll be meeting with my Church pro-life group as well as an area pro-life group this week. Rest assured, I will spread whatever news needs to be passed along.
Could we get some kind of small card or flyer, explaining our opposition, that we could put in the collection plate in leiu of a donation?
dubyaismypresident,
I don't know if we will have time for cards this year, but we should get as many people to drop a note in the basket explaining why they are not giving. I will be starting a thread later on what is going on in cleveland, and I hope to humiliate Bishop Pilla into stopping this. It worked last time.
It involes the links between:
http://www.esop-cleveland.org/ (note the Community shares logo on its website) The diocese funds the East Side Organizing Project through CCHD
http://www.communityshares.org/ which funds Planned Parenthod and the Preterm abortion clinic
Sorry I goota run - I'm already late!!!
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