Do the Fathers Support Scott Hahn’s Theory?

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[Land of the Irish]

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[nickcarraway]

Where does Hahn claim this?

[Land of the Irish]

http://www.getfed.com/product_detail.cfm?ID=2267&AID=164&new=yes

[newzjunkey]

He sounds like a quack to me.

[Land of the Irish]

He sounds like a quack to me.

He is; and he's deceiving many people.

[Kolokotronis]

This fellow Hahn cannot be taken seriously. This has never been believed by the Church at any time, anywhere. Sounds like something off the ECUSA's Women's page.

[Atheist2Theist]

Robert Sungenis is a total quack. He supports the theory of Geocentrism and challenges anyone to prove that the Earth revolves around the sun - he is even offering a cash prize for this. Many in the apologetics movement have talked to Robert to try to bring his out of this wackiness - but so far he just goes into it further.

Robert Sungenis has written some useful things in the past but his organization CAI just went off the deep end.

[Land of the Irish]

Robert Sungenis is a total quack. He supports the theory of Geocentrism and challenges anyone to prove that the Earth revolves around the sun - he is even offering a cash prize for this.

If he's wrong, why haven't you, or anyone else, collected the prize.

[Pyro7480]

How did he come to the conclusion that the Sun must go around the Earth? Do you believe in this theory, LOTI?

[Grey Ghost II]

How did he come to the conclusion that the Sun must go around the Earth?

Who cares? The Pope has said that the theory that people evolved from lizards is more than a theory. Geocentrism doesn't condradict sacred scripture. If Sungenis is considered a quack for believing in geocentrism, then what does that make the pope?

[Land of the Irish]

Let me know when you collect the prize.

[pachomi33]

No created analogy can exit between the
Uncreated and the created. It always breaks down. This projection of feminist ideas is deplorable. It always sends red flags up, that a teacher is going down a slippery slope when traditional thought about God is abandoned. Hahn says some good things, but he is sloppy in his scholarship. His books while somewhat helpful, reflect his pre"catholic" Presbyterian theology.

[Atheist2Theist]

There have been some people that have written scientific refutations of this, such as Gary Hoge, but he refuses to acknowledge that his theory is wrong
http://catholicoutlook.com/geocentrism.php

[Tantumergo]

"Could you please give a reference for your statement that "the Pope has said that the theory that people evolved from lizards is more than a theory"."

The comment was made in the Holy Father’s October 1996 message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Evolution theory.

There is an article about it here which appeared in Homiletic & Pastoral Review:

http://www.theotokos.org.uk/pages/creation/pwilders/evolpope.html

[Grey Ghost II]

Could you please give a reference for your statement that "the Pope has said that the theory that people evolved from lizards is more than a theory".

Pope John Paul II made a speech to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on October 23, 1996 in which he addressed the subject of evolution:

"Today, more than a half century after this encyclical [Pius XII's 1950 encyclical Humani generis], new knowledge leads us to recognize in the theory of evolution more than a hypothesis."

[Arguss]

"Hahn says some good things, but he is sloppy in his scholarship. His books while somewhat helpful, reflect his pre"catholic" Presbyterian theology."

I think you said it very well, but I would probably substitute 'cavalier' for sloppy. Hahn is not sloppy, but calculating in supporting his pet theory(ies).

I think the 'cavalier' is a reflection of his success - too far, too fast. And, IMO, his choice of hills to die on a reflection of his own history (protestant) and his liberalism. Too much to overcome.

He will die on this hill.

[Stubborn]

He is; and he's deceiving many people.

Yep, add him to the list.