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Bishop Bernard Fellay, "No Deal with Rome in Sight"
The Remnant Newspaper | November 15, 2004 | Thomas A. Drolesky

Posted on 11/19/2004 5:42:24 PM PST by Land of the Irish

His Excellency, the Most Reverend Bernard Fellay of the Priestly Fraternity of the Society of Saint Pius X, told parishioners at Saint Ignatius Retreat House in Ridgefield, Connecticut, on Sunday, November 7,2004, that no deal with Rome on the status of the Society of Saint Pius X is in sight. Bishop Fellay commented at length, both in his sermon during Holy Mass and in a two and one-half hour conference that followed a reception in his honor, that although there are some high ranking curial cardinals in Rome who are sympathetic to the cause of giving the Traditional Latin Mass a "little comer in the zoo," none want to examine the root cause of the crisis in the Church: the inroads made by Modernism in the Church's liturgy and in her teaching documents. "What we want, His Excellency said in very measured but firm tones, "is for everyone, not just for us." Bishop Fellay went on to say that an archbishop in the curia had told him, "Don't make an agreement with Rome now. The time is not right. The Pope is no longer governing the Church. We need you to stay where you are and to stand firm in defense of the Faith."

Bishop Fellay specifically pointed to the example of the Bishop Fernando Rifan of the Society of Saint John-Marie Vianney in Campos, Brazil, to indicate that the path of compromise with the Vatican as it is currently constituted leads to a loss of integrity. Bishop Fellay noted that Bishop Rifan has defended his apparent concelebration at an offering of the Novus Ordo Missae in Brazil by saying that he, Bishop Rifan, had extended his hands but did not actually mouth the words at the moment that the other bishops recited aloud the words of consecration. "Everybody gets cheated in this instance," Bishop Fellay said, noting that Bishop Rifan is giving the appearance to traditionalists of having compromised while giving the appearance of , 'unity" with the adherents of the Novus Ordo. Bishop Fellay commented quite specifically that lay women gave out Holy Communion in the hand in the presence of Bishop Rifan. "This is not the path we are going to follow," Bishop Fellay said, indicating that although he would like to think his priests would be immune to the pressures that have been exerted on priests in the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter and the Institute of Christ the King and Campos to offer the Novus Ordo, he, Bishop Fellay, knows that human nature is what it is and that some of his priests might succumb to the pressure.

Bishop Fellay also said that he knows that Dario Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy and the President of Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, was furious with him for the Society's irrefutable treatise on the errors of ecumenism. Indeed, the novelty of ecumenism was the focus of much of Bishop Fellay's sermon and conference. Bishop Fellay, who discussed at length the elements of authentic obedience, said that the Society of Saint Pius X could never accept the novelty of ecumenism that has gutted the Catholic Faith and has reaffirmed actual heretics and schismatics in their errors.

A full report of Bishop Fellay's magnificent and humor-filled conference will be carried in the November 30th issue of The Remnant. Suffice it for present purposes to note that His Excellency stressed that charity must prevail in all our dealings with our fellow Catholics so that they will see reflected in us the patience of Our Lord, who is so patient with us in the Sacrament of Penance. He reminded his listeners that we are living in the exact moment that God has known from all eternity that we would be alive and that His ineffable grace is sufficient for us to weather the storms besetting the Barque of Peter. His talk was uplifting and edifying. It will be given in other locales (Chicago, St. Louis, Post Falls) during His Excellency's American visit.


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Bishop Fellay went on to say that an archbishop in the curia had told him, "Don't make an agreement with Rome now. The time is not right. The Pope is no longer governing the Church. We need you to stay where you are and to stand firm in defense of the Faith."

Bishop Fellay noted that Bishop Rifan has defended his apparent concelebration at an offering of the Novus Ordo Missae in Brazil by saying that he, Bishop Rifan, had extended his hands but did not actually mouth the words at the moment that the other bishops recited aloud the words of consecration i.e., "He did not inhale".

1 posted on 11/19/2004 5:42:24 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; BearWash; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/19/2004 5:45:46 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
Oh come on. It all depends on the meaning of "is", er, concelebrate.

Great post, thanks.

3 posted on 11/19/2004 5:50:07 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Land of the Irish

The Novous Ordo mission is to crush the Ancient Catholic Faith.


4 posted on 11/19/2004 5:51:20 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; pascendi; Maximilian; MarineMomJ; sempertrad; nickcarraway; ...
Bishop Fellay went on to say that an archbishop in the curia had told him, "Don't make an agreement with Rome now. The time is not right. The Pope is no longer governing the Church. We need you to stay where you are and to stand firm in defense of the Faith."
5 posted on 11/19/2004 5:59:10 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah (Freepmail if you would like on or off my traditional Catholic ping list)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; thor76; Viva Christo Rey; Land of the Irish; sempertrad

Stand firm. Take no prisoners!


6 posted on 11/19/2004 6:02:08 PM PST by MarineMomJ (The truth only hurts when it's true.)
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To: Land of the Irish

The SSPX is the living embodiment of the Church as it existed before the present debacle. It's hard not to recognize the work of the Holy Spirit behind this.


7 posted on 11/19/2004 6:18:17 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: 26lemoncharlie
The Novous Ordo mission is to crush the Ancient Catholic Faith.

They have almost succeeded.

8 posted on 11/19/2004 6:22:20 PM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: ultima ratio
The SSPX is the living embodiment of the Church as it existed before the present debacle.

I'm glad to see Drolesky writing this. For the past couple years it seems that he has been dancing around the issue of the SSPX, gradually discovering Tradition for himself, but only more slowly coming to the realization that the SSPX has been there ahead of him all along. It's like climbing a new mountain and finding someone else's flag already planted there, and then climbing the next mountain and finding the same thing, and so forth. At some point shouldn't you wake up to the realization that you're not as much of a pioneer as you thought, and that maybe you should find out who is this person who has been one step ahead of you all along the way?

9 posted on 11/19/2004 6:40:19 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Grey Ghost II

The Church is within YOU. As long as YOU live the True Catholic Faith will Live. Keep the laws and traditions of Pre Vatican II.


10 posted on 11/19/2004 6:53:29 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Maximilian
At some point shouldn't you wake up to the realization that you're not as much of a pioneer as you thought, and that maybe you should find out who is this person who has been one step ahead of you all along the way?


11 posted on 11/19/2004 7:18:21 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish

"Bishop Bernard Fellay, 'No Deal with Rome in Sight'"

Good news! Now if only the dissenting liberals would likewise break from the Church! But no, the liberals keep pretending to be Catholics, kind of like some of the SSPX'ers.


12 posted on 11/19/2004 7:53:14 PM PST by SausageDog
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To: SausageDog
Good news!

It certainly is good news. The SSPX continues to uphold the teachings of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

As far as I'm concerned, you and New Rome can continue to play hug-a-mullah, kiss-a-koran, hug-a-hindu, bow to buddha, kiss-a-koffi.

I don't lose sleep over it.

I'm Catholic, not Novus.

13 posted on 11/19/2004 8:17:25 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
He reminded his listeners that we are living in the exact moment that God has known from all eternity that we would be alive and that His ineffable grace is sufficient for us to weather the storms besetting the Barque of Peter.

Thanks Bishop Fellay, I do need to be reminded of that at times.

14 posted on 11/19/2004 8:19:18 PM PST by murphE (fight terrorism in the womb END ABORTION NOW)
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To: Land of the Irish

I am not unsympathetic to the SSPX give that I attend the Traditional Mass celebrated with the indult. It is ine thing to recognize the problems with the hierarchy, icluding in Rome. It is one thing to resist error. But there is a line between resistance and disobedience that seems to be being crossed.


15 posted on 11/19/2004 8:27:53 PM PST by Pecavi
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To: Pecavi
But there is a line between resistance and disobedience that seems to be being crossed.

Are you aware of the errors of "blind obedience"?

16 posted on 11/19/2004 8:30:54 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish

LOI, the sad thing is most people under the age of 40-45 have never experienced real Catholicism. Those who by the grace of God get the chance understand what we have now are two different religions.

We get to choose the Catholicism of 19+ centuries or the new Catholicism of 40 years. We must choose between true obedience to God or false obedience to men promoting error.


17 posted on 11/19/2004 8:43:00 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: SausageDog

The SSPX is not only thoroughly Catholic, but it is a scandal to fake Catholics everywhere who feel in its insistence on the faith, a repremand.


18 posted on 11/19/2004 9:24:53 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: Pecavi

No, there is never an obligation to obey a command which does harm to souls--not even if issued by a popular pope.

"Just as it is licit to resist a Pontiff who aggresses the body, it is also licit to resist one who aggresses the souls or who disturbs civil order, or, above all, one who attempts to destroy the Church. I say that it is licit to resist him by not doing what he orders and preventing his will from being executed. It is not licit, however, to judge, punish, or depose him, since these are acts proper to a superior." (St. Robert Cardinal Bellarmine, doctor of the Church; De Romano Pontifice, 2,29)


19 posted on 11/19/2004 9:30:12 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
none want to examine the root cause of the crisis in the Church: the inroads made by Modernism in the Church's liturgy and in her teaching documents.

Makes me wonder how a "deal" can ever be reached under these conditions.

Thanks for the ping, great article!

20 posted on 11/20/2004 1:08:08 AM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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