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Famous Atheist Now Believes in God
Yahoo ^ | 12/9/04 | RICHARD N. OSTLING

Posted on 12/09/2004 1:15:38 PM PST by ZGuy

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To: Spok
He waited until he was 81 to read Thomas Aquinas?

He couldn't beat the living C.S. Lewis in a debate. Flew loved the attention of crying, "I am an atheist!", in a time and a place where that was considered shocking. Now days, his only fall back is to hint that a blabbering 81 year-old professional atheist might just barely concede the possible existance of some kind of higher intelligence than his own. Anything for attention....

41 posted on 12/09/2004 5:25:23 PM PST by xJones
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To: little jeremiah

I suspect when he turns 120 he may think that the afterlife exists, at 230 he may go to Church, and at 460 he will become a monk. No rush.


42 posted on 12/09/2004 5:30:18 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: wallcrawlr


It's sad to see Flew's senile.

:^)

Proudly, unabashed Classical liberal - and (shocking) - Atheist.


43 posted on 12/09/2004 6:13:22 PM PST by 4Liberty (The price of Liberty is personal responsibility.)
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To: ZGuy

I wonder....... if some are scared of death at 81 or 8 and enbrace relgion


44 posted on 12/09/2004 6:38:26 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: ZGuy

I wonder....... if some are scared of death at 81 or 8 and enbrace relgion


45 posted on 12/09/2004 6:39:08 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Dimensio
Sounds to me like he's decided that since he can't come up with an explanation,

No, he's come up with an explanation that countless others have through generations of humans. You just don't accept it. There is evidence that intelligence designs things. We have that evidence every time an artifact is discovered.

Carrier assured atheists that Flew accepts only a "minimal God" and believes in no afterlife.

Flew told The Associated Press his current ideas have some similarity with American "intelligent design" theorists, who see evidence for a guiding force in the construction of the universe. He accepts Darwinian evolution but doubts it can explain the ultimate origins of life.

To you he is arrogant and presumptuous only when he disagrees with you. After all, he accepts Darwinian evolution.

46 posted on 12/09/2004 6:41:09 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: ZGuy

C.S. Lewis alert.


47 posted on 12/09/2004 6:43:18 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: ZGuy
"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian . . .depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots

There has to be something wrong with Christian religious training in the UK to come up with this conclusion.

48 posted on 12/09/2004 6:45:47 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: escapefromboston
101! wow, talk about waiting till the last minute.

The thief on the cross was a last minute convert.

49 posted on 12/09/2004 6:46:19 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: MineralMan; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro

There is hope for you guys yet. :-)


50 posted on 12/09/2004 6:46:26 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

ping


51 posted on 12/09/2004 6:46:51 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
There has to be something wrong with Christian religious training in the UK to come up with this conclusion.

Darwin was English.

52 posted on 12/09/2004 6:47:26 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: ZGuy
He accepts Darwinian evolution but doubts it can explain the ultimate origins of life.

Nor does the theory of evolution attempt to do so. It attempts to explain what happened after the origin of life.

53 posted on 12/09/2004 6:52:20 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
hehe! :^D

54 posted on 12/09/2004 7:00:32 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! )
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To: AndrewC
After all, he accepts Darwinian evolution.

Yeah, he just doesn't believe that it can explain something that it doesn't try to explain. Real master of the obvious there.
55 posted on 12/09/2004 7:00:53 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: AndrewC

As was Huxley. America has its share of atheists but they don't seem to be taken, or take themselves, quite as seriously.


56 posted on 12/09/2004 7:01:11 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
There has to be something wrong with Christian religious training in the UK to come up with this conclusion.

In other words, he didn't come to the conclusion that you wanted, so clearly he's still in error.
57 posted on 12/09/2004 7:01:43 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: Dimensio
In other words, he didn't come to the conclusion that you wanted, so clearly he's still in error.

He seems to be coming around :-)

58 posted on 12/09/2004 7:03:10 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Dimensio
Actually, if Hell exists a despot would not care whether you end up there or not providing you provided unquestioning obedience.

In Christianity, Hell of course exists but God clearly does not want you to end up there and disobedience does not automatically consign one there.

59 posted on 12/09/2004 7:08:28 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

Er, what has this to do with anything?


60 posted on 12/09/2004 7:10:02 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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