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To: AAABEST
HMMMMMM.

I'll not debate that.

What I will say is that Methodist's pray directly to Jesus who is God's only son and is both human and God.

We do not ask anyone else to do that praying.(we have a direct line)

And that is that. If that is not enough, then there are other religions, all of whom have differences. I make no public judgments of which one is the right or wrong. I only do what is right for me and proselytize for none.

33 posted on 12/12/2004 5:56:57 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Cold Heat
Have you ever participated in a FR prayer thread?

If so, you are doing the same thing we Catholics do when we ask a saint to pray for us.

For further info, see the Book of Revelation, or Maccabees.

39 posted on 12/12/2004 6:05:13 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Cold Heat
We do not ask anyone else to do that praying.(we have a direct line)

You (and I) ask other mortals to pray for you even people you don't know on internet forums. Why not the most blessed mother of the Word become man?

Souls live in heaven and on earth - which puts us all in communion under the Almighty. To true Catholics, it seems illogical to ask other mortals to pray for us, yet refuse to ask those who exist elsewhere in God's Kingdom to do the same - especially the most blessed woman to ever exist.

47 posted on 12/12/2004 6:19:08 PM PST by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Cold Heat; NYer
What I will say is that Methodist's pray directly to Jesus who is God's only son and is both human and God.

It's perfectly fine to pray to Jesus alone and ask no one else. But since we catholics do believe in "friends in high places" we surely make good use of it and I'm afraid you folks are missing out on a good thing.

Let's say you are personal childhood friends with W and has a direct line to him, he heard your request and is thinking about it. But don't you think it will be wise to also tap on other cabinet ministers that you also know to put in a good word for you in front of W to have your favor granted, faster, or if at all?

Lobbyists do just that, some for good cause, some not. It is a practice that runs across all party lines and different sectors of society and it is an accepted practice. We catholics simply apply the same on a higher plain.

52 posted on 12/12/2004 6:23:15 PM PST by m4629
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To: Cold Heat

How sad that some feel they can't pray directly to God. They put all these obstacles in front of Him. What? Is He too busy to hear their prayers?


71 posted on 12/12/2004 7:06:08 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Cold Heat; AAABEST; sitetest
What I will say is that Methodist's pray directly to Jesus who is God's only son and is both human and God.

In the course of your working career, have you ever asked for a raise in pay? Was this addressed to the CEO or your boss, who 'interceded' on your behalf.

Catholics pray to Jesus; occasionally we also ask our 'friends' for assistance, since they are already in the Kingdom of Heaven.

79 posted on 12/12/2004 7:46:21 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: Cold Heat
What I will say is that Methodist's pray directly to Jesus who is God's only son and is both human and God. We do not ask anyone else to do that praying.(we have a direct line)

Have you ever asked a Methodist to pray for you?

If that's OK, why not ask the saints in heaven to pray for you too? After all, they're more alive than we are.

94 posted on 12/13/2004 5:38:54 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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