Posted on 12/13/2004 10:19:33 AM PST by Land of the Irish
When you grow up, you may begin to understand that concept.
I hold out hope for you ...
Until then, at least learn to spell.
You may have the last word, if you like.
Your honor, I am through with this witness.
You had better be.
My only objection to the RCF letter is it's overbroad ... I agree: those bishops, priests, deacons, and sisters who are "the problem" won't be dissuaded by it. Those who are part of "the solution", though, shouldn't be included in the broadside.
"Most", I could support.
But not all.
"Denominations can join in common celebrations"
Is this not the non-judgemental non-denominational religion of the new world order?
IIRC, the USCCB has no actual, canonical, authority or existence. If that's the case, withdrawing from it (and possibly forming a US Conference of Orthodox Catholic Bishops) would indeed seem worth considering.
Having read that letter before, it is a very clear and concise statement of all to real charges aginst our apostate bishops, and against the USCCB itself.
Over the top? Not in the least. In fact, the temptation in write such a letter is to resort to even more rhetoric, and even the (very appropriate, in this case) use of expletives. Since our bishops have effectively defected from the faith of our fathers, and have taught nothing but butterflies and rainbows to our children - losing two generations of them to the faith - this letter is entirely justified.
By rights - in a kinder and gentler era - these ecclesiastical hooligans would be either executed for heresy/apostacy, or sentanced to a long period of enforced penance in a monastary on bread, water, and hard labor prayer & silence. In reperation for their sins in office, and for the good of their souls.
Sorry, but for any good Catholic - and certainly those with children to raise in the faith - the time for diplomacy and platitudes with these lewd buffoons in round collars must stop. In the name of God we must declare war on such traitorous prelates as these who sell Christ again for 30 pieces of silver, if we are to consider ourselves frineds of Christ. If they had any "right" to be treated with respect, they lost that a long time ago.
No, in my opinion it is high time that good, devout Catholics get mad, and do something constructive. It is precisely because it is considered politically incorrect to use "angry tones" in morally just criticism that the Church is in the shape it is in.
The house has been on fire for 40 years. Meek, subserviant politeness to the arsonists is neither appropriate, nor sane.
"This hysterical letter will continue to marginalize RCF with the American bishops."
I also suspect that Christ was marginalized by the Jewish religious leadership when He cleansed the temple of the money changers.
RCF has always been marginalized with the American bishops.
As long as RCF continues to call a spade a spade, it will remain marginalized.
Two thirds or so of our bishops are like cockroaches who tend to scatter in the light (of truth).
Steve Brady and the RCF have done more to rid the Church of perverts than all of the bishops combined.
"The number of lay people formally preparing for full time ministry has more than doubled in the past nine years, he said. As a result, the church’s ministerial culture is becoming quite different, he said."
I agree with him on this one.
Some years ago the lay "pastoral associate" with her theology degree from Seattle University, taught by his own Jesuit order, appeared in lieu of the pastor the night of my father-in-law's pre-funeral rosary.
To make a long story short, she didn't know how to say a rosary. Didn't know the mysteries, the words of all the prayers, or the sequence in which they are to be said.
It is my understanding that the Seattle diocese has recently replaced the pre-funeral rosary with a bible reading ceremony of some sort.
I can understand why.
Wow!
Agreed.
Now - on a related consideration - let us ask who killed Jesus Christ? It becomes an important matter, as it shows who teh guys with the black hats in our western are....
We have before us a cast of various groups and characters - each with a a part to play in the drama, and a share of the guilt. But who is responsible. Who was the instigator.....the human one(s)? We realize that Satan entered into the hearts of those responsible. But that exonerates nobody, and does not answer the question.
The Jews? The share guilt.....as one week thay praised his triumphal entry into Jerusalem, and the next they were yelling for his death. Fickle......just like the laity today. Easily swayed into apostacy.
Judas? Certainly a prime culprit. He was one of Christ's chosen.....to be one of his first priests. But he saw it as more important to see Christ do his will, then for him to do Christ's will. So, being a disobedient priest, he sold out Christ for 30 pieces of silver. Just like many priests today.
Pilate? Roman soldiers? They were the state, and its legal forces. They cared nothing for Christ, but were coerced into killing him by others, who were anti Christian partisans. Today we have such anti Christian partisans in the state, and its legal system.
The Chief priests....elders of the Temple...the Sanhedrin?
Yes - finally we are getting close to the source. They wanted the death of Jesus because he and what he stood for was inimical to everything which they were and stood for. So they plotted to kill Jesus.....and use Judas (priests), and the Roman Governor (the state) to do their dirty work.
And what term can we use to describe those who plotted and ultimately orchestrated the death of Jesus Christ?
CLERGY? Yes......but more specifically the heirarchy....who wore headresses very reminiscent of BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!
There is your answer.
Don't forget as Mel Gibson so aptly pointed out - all of us who committ sins.
"Wow!"
It was even worse than I have described it here.
I see disruption and chaos have returned to the religion forum with the reappearance of our favorite modernist.
Coincidence? I think not.
It would be polite to ping sinkspur when you speak of him. I'm assuming you were, but perhaps I was mistaken.
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