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To: HarleyD
"You agree the Church should dictate government???"

Considering that it is infallible Catholic doctrine, sure. Every Catholic is supposed to know and believe this. It is merely a couple hundred year's worth of expanding Liberalism which has deceived them into believing otherwise. Or to tolerate it, ignore it, or to consider what God ordained to be no longer possible or reasonable.

I believe it. Not sure what everyone else's problem is.

"You agree we should give up democratic principles???"

Those principles are offensive to Christ and are in opposition to His Church.

"You agree we should give up individualism???"

Yes. Individualism is this: I will not serve. That's basically it in a nutshell. It is in conflict with the essence of man and family. It is evolutionary; it is self-seeking.

"This is nothing more than Socialism wrapped in another bandage and was never what the church was intended to be."

It is what the Church was intended to be. But nope, it ain't Socialism. In fact, it is Socialism's polar opposite. What we have right now... that's socialism. SocialismLite, but just wait around. It'll get worse. Anyone can see that it is getting worse.

"Please. Put away the piety."

No. Not if it is the real thing, no way. Piety means in Latin dutifulness; theologically it is fulfillment of duty to God, state, family, Faith. You want this stuff put away?

"The author sounds like he longs for the medieval ages when the Church could interpret the scriptures to suit their “social order” or finance their schemes.

That's just a little tricking wording on your part to make it appear as if the author is limited to choosing between two lousy candidates:

Choice A: ditch his disturbing thesis about Catholic monarchy, or

Choice B: ...or you'll just say he's a crooked schemer based on your own revisionist, liberal bluescreen you call "history".

I must admit that you are being true to American principle, though. After all, we have once again been subjected to the torturous rule of two, prefabricated, lousy stinking choices... lol.

18 posted on 12/16/2004 8:41:29 AM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: pascendi

Your post to HarleyD is right on.


19 posted on 12/16/2004 8:46:30 AM PST by Mershon
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To: pascendi
Considering that it is infallible Catholic doctrine, sure. Every Catholic is supposed to know and believe this.

God alone swears securely, because He alone is infallible.--Augustine of Hippo, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, First Series: Volume VIII, St. Augustine on the Psalms, Psalm LXXXIX, Sec. 4

Please let me know when the Catholics decide to follow the infallible teachings of Vatican I or the infallible teachings of Vatican II.

22 posted on 12/16/2004 9:08:59 AM PST by HarleyD ("Let's give thanks to the Lord above, for Santa Claus comes to night."-from Here come SC)
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