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St. Anthony of Padua (West Orange, NJ) UPDATE!!!
Church Bulletins ^ | 11/25/04

Posted on 12/26/2004 5:43:59 PM PST by csbyrnes84

If anyone was following the situation at St. Anthony's Latin Mass Chapel in West Orange a month ago, there have been some new developments recently. Fr. Perricone is still the Priest of the Chapel and he now has a second Priest, Fr. Gabriel, helping him.

Two important new developments at St. Anthony's are: 1. The auditorium is being renamed "Fr. Wickens Hall" 2. Archbishop Myers wrote a letter to the parishoners of St. Anthony's.

Here's what it says in the bulletin about the dedication of the hall.

-- In Memoriam Father Paul A. Wickens

On Saturday, January 15, 2005, at 10 AM Father Perricone will offer a Solemn High Requiem Mass in memory of Father Paul Wickens. After Mass the parishoners of Saint Anthony's are invited to a lunch in our auditorium to meet our new Pastor, Father John Perricone. Fr. Perricone will dedicate our auditorium as Father Wickens Hall. Please circle the 15th of January and we hope to see you there. --


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1 posted on 12/26/2004 5:43:59 PM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84

Archdiocese of Newark
Office of the Archbishop
Most Reverend John J. Myers

December 21, 2004

My Dear Brothers and Sisiters in Christ,

At this time of year, when our minds quite naturally turn to sharing and celebration, we gather in worship to celebrate the gift that God, Our Father, has sent: the Savior, born this day. He, the true light that enlightens everyone, has come into teh world to share God's life with us.

This Christmas is especially joyful. Your evident embracing of communion with the Archdiocese is a gift. We are an Archdiocese of many traditions and devotions. Your special and very deep commitment to the faith is another sign to the world that this loal Church is, indeed, a vital and strong part of the universal Church, a sign of community, and of Communion.

How fitting that we celebrate our unity during this Year of the Eucharist that Our Holy Father has recently declared. This Christmas season is a fitting opportunity for you, for me, and for all people of the Archdiocese to proclaim Christ as the salvation of the whole world.

Yet amid the rejoicing, there is a sense of loss. Father Paul Wickens, whose generous care had long nourished you for many, years will be missed not only by the people of Saint Anthony of Padua, but also by many within this local Church of Newark. His service will endure as part of the fabric of Saint Anthony of Padua Chapel, and it is our prayer that he be granted eternal rest. I hope you will find in Father John Perricone many of the qualities that Father Wickens so ably demonstrated.

May the Lord bless you today and all days. May this Christmas season be filled with joy, peace and brotherhood.

With warmest good wishes for aholy, healthy, and blessed Christmas and a Happy New Year, I remain,

Sincerely in the Lord,
Most Reverend John J. Myers
Archbishop of Newark


2 posted on 12/26/2004 5:50:01 PM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: thor76; sinkspur; Canticle_of_Deborah; dsc; MarineMomJ; hobbes1; marshmallow; Wessex; ...

Ping


3 posted on 12/26/2004 5:55:03 PM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84

Did Archbishop Myers attend Fr. Wickens' funeral Mass?


4 posted on 12/26/2004 7:16:46 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: csbyrnes84

Considering that 100% of the previous threads posted on this subject have been pulled, what leads you to think this one won't get pulled?


5 posted on 12/26/2004 7:26:15 PM PST by ELS
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To: ELS

One can hope and pray!


6 posted on 12/26/2004 8:13:41 PM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: Land of the Irish

I believe Father Wickens's funeral mass was said by Fr. Zendejas who is a priest of the SSPX. The Archbishop was not in attendance to the best of my knowledge.


7 posted on 12/26/2004 8:14:44 PM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84

Thanks


8 posted on 12/26/2004 8:37:19 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: csbyrnes84; ELS
On Saturday, January 15, 2005, at 10 AM Father Perricone will offer a Solemn High Requiem Mass in memory of Father Paul Wickens.

Who will be functioning as the deacon and sub-deacon?

Is Fr Gabriel the Franciscan?
9 posted on 12/26/2004 8:49:59 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko

Well Fr. Gabriel is a former Franciscan. He formed a diocesan Traditional Franscican Order in the Diocese of Scranton, but the Bishop eventually supressed the order.

Now there was an actual Franciscan at St. Anthony's a couple of weeks back, I forget his name, but he is a Franciscan from the Diocese of New York who Fr. Perricone converted to Traditionalism. This Franciscan only says the latin mass now, but he previously was a very very Liberal Catholic.

They had a High Solemn mass for Christmas's Midnight mass, and I suspect they will use the same format for the High Requiem mass. At the Christmas mass Fr. Perricone was the celebrant, Fr. Gabriel was the Deacon, and they had a "straw" deacon as the sub-deacon, so he was a layman who knew the rubrics and responses.

BTW Mike how are things going at Jersey City? Is the Bishop still thinking about closing up Holy Rosary?


10 posted on 12/26/2004 9:05:22 PM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84
BTW Mike how are things going at Jersey City? Is the Bishop still thinking about closing up Holy Rosary?

Hi. I moved from New Jersey to Raleigh, NC back last August, so I'm an ignoramus as to what's up at Holy Rosary.

Down here, there's an indult one Sunday a month and on some weekdays. We had a sung Mass on the 19th, the first diocesan one. Father Parkerson's Southron accent isn't too strong, but I can say I've heard Latin with Chinese, Italian, Chicago, and northern New Jersey accents.

[looks right and left and leans closer] There's also the SSPX.
11 posted on 12/26/2004 9:15:00 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko

Well in that situation I'd probably check out the Society Chapel if there is nothing else available for those other weeks. Msgr. Perl of the Ecclesia Dei commision did say that Society masses fulfill the Sunday Obligation.


12 posted on 12/26/2004 9:28:44 PM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84

NO COMMENT. (speaks volumes)


13 posted on 12/27/2004 3:34:30 AM PST by MarineMomJ (The truth only hurts when it's true.)
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To: Mike Fieschko
Who will be functioning as the deacon and sub-deacon?

Fr. Gabriel was the deacon. The subdeacon has helped out at Holy Rosary and is usually at OLF in Pequannock.

Fr. Gabriel was one of the founders of the Servants Minor of St. Francis in Scranton, PA. It was a traditional Franciscan order that has been supressed. Fr. Gabriel is now a diocesan priest.

14 posted on 12/27/2004 5:12:47 AM PST by ELS
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To: Mike Fieschko; Romulus; Askel5; Antoninus; Claud; wideawake
A Christmas Message from our Pastor

At first glance it might seem strange. In Catholic Europe of the Middle Ages every Church would toll its bells on Christmas Eve. From 11:00pm till 11:59pm Church bells tolled as though for a funeral. On Christmas Eve? Think for a minute and its makes perfect sense. Mother Church was announcing the end, the "death", of Satan's reign. The Second Person of the Blessed Trinity dazzles the universe as He shines forth through the flesh given Him by the Virgin. From that moment on, the Word made flesh would be the Light that no Darkness could conquer.

Sometimes, though not often, the rich joy of the supernatural wonder of Christmas is matched by the natural joys of God's bounty. Christmas 2004 is one of those times. I see it so very clearly in my arrival here on December 1st. I see it in the exceptional Catholics that I have found at St. Anthony since I have come. All of these unique Christmas joys can only have one cause.

This year God allowed us to bear the burden of the passing of a great priest. Father Wickens generously accepted the kind of death God deigned to send him. Each torment that came with his awful disease he transformed into petitions to Our Lord for his beloved St. Anthony. Because he was a priest's priest, he realized this would be the finest gift he could leave his Catholic flock. This is the reason for our special cheer.

Lesser men might think a pastor's legacy is in the treasure left to his parish. Some might believe it to be the buildings he constructed. Still others the happy times they would always remember. All these are good, but not the best. A priest, after the heart of Christ, desires for his parish not just something merely good, but the best. Any priest worthy of being called Father knows that is his suffering. It was Christ's finest gift to us. The priest is alter Christus, so it must similarly be his. The suffering of a simple priest joined to that of the Sovereign High Priest guarantees avalanches of blessings. Be prepared.

Father Wickens closed his eyes in death secure that he had bequeathed his parish the finest he could give. His priestly oblation will always surround St. Anthony's like a high wall. Though some may try to sally forth against it, that high wall will repel them. St. Anthony of Padua is a parish richly endowed. No one need ever fear that the endowment might be exhausted, because it sits invincibly upon the very heart of God.

You must never forget these profound Catholic mysteries. Especially be mindful of them when the occasional cloud comes our way. That will be the time to remember that we are marked by a signal grace, won by a singular priest. No cloud can ever compete with that. How grateful to God I am, that He has chosen me to lead you more deeply into that victory.

Thank you to all of you for making my Christmas this year so merry. Thank you, Father Wickens, for providing all of us with future Christmas after Christmas, year after year, farther can our eyes can see. Now we know why priests are called our Fathers. For they never settle in giving us anything but the best.

15 posted on 12/27/2004 5:35:02 AM PST by ELS
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To: ELS
It was a traditional Franciscan order that has been supressed

Why is it that wherever tradition is found in the church you'll find our supposed leadership making every effort to stomp it out?

16 posted on 12/27/2004 5:45:05 AM PST by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: csbyrnes84

I think the parishoners there are in for a rough ride. The naive will fall into line and swallow the diocesan BS while the rest will need to examine their reasons for supporting Father Wickens in the first place.


17 posted on 12/27/2004 5:59:01 AM PST by Wessex
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To: AAABEST

I heard that they were supressed because they were too "successful" spiritually and being right in Scranton were in the bishop's face, so to speak. I guess it tweaked his conscience and rather than changing his ways he just supressed the order. ;-(


18 posted on 12/27/2004 5:59:13 AM PST by ELS
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To: csbyrnes84
They had a High Solemn mass for Christmas's Midnight mass

And a magnificent mass it was...

19 posted on 12/27/2004 6:15:52 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: ELS

Thanks, and a merry Christmas to you!


20 posted on 12/27/2004 6:47:23 AM PST by Romulus (Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?)
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To: Wessex
I know Father Gabriel. The people of St. Anthony's are in good hands. Fr. Gabriel has no time for the ridiculous games played by most chanceries these days. He'll not be shoving any diocesan BS on the parish. That's probably part of the reason his order was suppressed in Scranton.
21 posted on 12/27/2004 7:04:05 AM PST by Blessed Charlemagne (http://www.angeltowns3.com/members/romanist/index.htm)
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To: MarineMomJ

How are things going with Fr. Murphy's mass in East Hanover? Are you guys still thinking of forming an independent chapel or will your efforts be combined with those of the SSPX?

If you are looking for property, you might want to consider St. John's Ukranian Catholic Church on Rt. 10 in Whippany. I think the property is still on the market, but it has a very high price tag at 1.5 mil.


22 posted on 12/27/2004 7:10:48 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: latae sententiae

ping


23 posted on 12/27/2004 7:22:07 AM PST by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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To: csbyrnes84
Thanks for posting that letter from the Archbishop.

If it wasn't for that, this thread would make me really nervous.

24 posted on 12/27/2004 7:27:35 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

nervous? Why?


25 posted on 12/27/2004 7:29:12 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84

Canonically irregular (i.e. "independent") churches, do that to me.


26 posted on 12/27/2004 7:57:45 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: seamole
No, It would not.

Msgr. Camille Perl's response:

Unfortunately, as you will understand, we have no way of controlling what is done with our letters by their recipients. Our letter of 27 September 2002, which was evidently cited in The Remnant and on various websites, was intended as a private communication dealing with the specific circumstances of the person who wrote to us. What was presented in the public forum is an abbreviated version of that letter which omits much of our pastoral counsel. Since a truncated form of this letter has now become public, we judge it appropriate to present the larger context of our response.

In a previous letter to the same correspondent we had already indicated the canonical status of the Society of St. Pius X which we will summarize briefly here.

1.) The priests of the Society of St. Pius X are validly ordained, but they are suspended from exercising their priestly functions. To the extent that they adhere to the schism of the late Archbishop Lefebvre, they are also excommunicated.

2.) Concretely this means that the Masses offered by these priests are valid, but illicit i.e., contrary to the law of the Church.

Points 1 and 3 in our letter of 27 September 2002 to this correspondent are accurately reported. His first question was "Can I fulfill my Sunday obligation by attending a Pius X Mass" and our response was:

"1. In the strict sense you may fulfill your Sunday obligation by attending a Mass celebrated by a priest of the Society of St. Pius X."

His second question was "Is it a sin for me to attend a Pius X Mass" and we responded stating:

"2. We have already told you that we cannot recommend your attendance at such a Mass and have explained the reason why. If your primary reason for attending were to manifest your desire to separate yourself from communion with the Roman Pontiff and those in communion with him, it would be a sin. If your intention is simply to participate in a Mass according to the 1962 Missal for the sake of devotion, this would not be a sin."

His third question was: "Is it a sin for me to contribute to the Sunday collection a Pius X Mass" to which we responded:

"3. It would seem that a modest contribution to the collection at Mass could be justified."

29 posted on 12/27/2004 8:31:36 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: seamole
Modernism is a heresy.
30 posted on 12/27/2004 8:33:16 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: seamole
Traditionalism is a heresy.

Ha ha that's very logical.

As someone once said 'check your premises'. It wasn't La Mennais.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Yera.
31 posted on 12/27/2004 8:39:46 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad capul tuum saxum immane mittam.)
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To: seamole
As an asides that definition of Traditionalism, does not equate with the current Traditional movement, which does not forsake Reason, and Intellect but rather it is precisely through reason, and Intellect that they eschew the premise that...

...The Catholic religion is no longer, in their eyes, as it was in the eyes of our ancestors, the morally universal religion of cultured humanity. They have been shown the influence of race on the diffusion of the Gospel. They have been shown the good sides of other cults and beliefs. Our contemporaries find it hard to believe that the greater part of humanity is plunged in error, especially if they are ignorant that the Catholic religion teaches that the means of salvation are at the disposal of those who err in good faith. Hence they are inclined to overlook doctrinal divergencies in order to insist on a certain fundamental conformity of tendencies and of aspirations.

Then again they are moved by sentiments of liberalism and moderation, which reduce the importance of formal religion, as they see in the various cults only private opinions which change with time and place, and which merit an equal respect from all.

32 posted on 12/27/2004 8:42:32 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: seamole

n a previous letter to the same correspondent we had already indicated the canonical status of the Society of St. Pius X which we will summarize briefly here.

1.) The priests of the Society of St. Pius X are validly ordained, but they are suspended from exercising their priestly functions. To the extent that they adhere to the schism of the late Archbishop Lefebvre, they are also excommunicated.

2.) Concretely this means that the Masses offered by these priests are valid, but illicit i.e., contrary to the law of the Church.


36 posted on 12/27/2004 9:01:00 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: seamole
If you're talking about orthodox or perhaps "traditional" Catholicism, you're talking about the true faith.

EXACTLY.

38 posted on 12/27/2004 9:07:48 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: seamole

What I said is the truth. Check your sources before you make any more libelous remarks.

http://www.unavoce.org/articles/2003/perl-011803.htm


39 posted on 12/27/2004 10:06:17 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: seamole

What are you talking about? If Traditionalism is heresy, then the Church from 500AD until 1962 was heretical. Think about this for a second. Were all of those Bishops, Priests, Nun, Saints, and laymen heretical? Of course not.

From now on, please think before you post.


40 posted on 12/27/2004 10:08:16 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: seamole

You're just engaging in semantics. In fact if you want to bandy about the word heretic, it would probably be more accurate to say that 95% of so-called Catholics in the United States are heretics for denying essential doctrines of the faith.

How bout them apples?


41 posted on 12/27/2004 10:11:17 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84
Questions:

1. Rome requires those assisting at Indult Masses be fully on board with the "doctrinal exactitude" of the New Mass and Vatican II. Does this describe you & the others left at St. Anthony's?

2. How does Perricone plan to "fix" the fact that he considers every confession & marriage that took place at the chapel from 1984 until until his arrival last month to be invalid, since Fr. Wickens & other priests who visited from time to time (including the SSPX) allegedly lacked the proper canonical faculties ?

3. If there are any children left who are preparing for Confirmation, does your new Archbishop plan to come & do the honors in the 1962 Rite, or are they being directed to the local Novus Ordo churches?
42 posted on 12/27/2004 10:57:57 AM PST by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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To: latae sententiae

Here is my opinion on your questions

1. I believe that the new mass is valid, although in most cases when it is said it is illicit. The words of the consecration "This is my body," "This is my blood," are present and I believe that the intent of the priest to perform the consecration is there in most cases, therefore it is valid. It is therefore the unblemished sacrifice of the mass.

Vatican II proclaimed no new dogma, it was a pastoral council so I am not bound to accept any of it.

2. The Church supplies validity for marriages and confessions when people are unaware of the canonical situation. If you look at the Orthodox churches for instance they do have valid confessions and marriages because the church supplies validity for the ignorant Eastern Orthodox.

3. I am not sure whether Archbishop Myers will say the confirmations. It might be possible to get Bishop Rifan to do the confirmations if he is in the area, but whoever does them, they will certainly be done according to the 1962 liturgical books. No one will be directed to Novus Ordo confirmations or any other Novus Ordo sacraments.


43 posted on 12/27/2004 11:31:48 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: latae sententiae

Are you going to Fr. Murphy's mass in East Hanover or are you going to the Society's mass in the city? If you would be so kind can you update us on the situation? Is Fr. Murphy still planning on acquiring land so that he can build a chapel in the area? Is the SSPX thinking about building a chapel in North Jersey? How was the attendence at the mass they had a couple weeks ago in Fairfield?


44 posted on 12/27/2004 11:33:21 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: latae sententiae
PMFBI.

1. Rome requires those assisting at Indult Masses be fully on board with the "doctrinal exactitude" of the New Mass and Vatican II.

Having attended at indult Masses in two dioceses here in the US, I've not run across this. It certainly wasn't asked of me, neither was I required to sign or otherwise adhere to any such requirement, and at one of the indults, I was a parishioner (signed up at the rectory, got the envelopes, etc.).

From your personal experience, what was the indult location with such a requirement, and how was it imposed and satisfied?
45 posted on 12/27/2004 11:39:17 AM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: csbyrnes84

Answer my questions, & I'll answer yours.


46 posted on 12/27/2004 11:50:52 AM PST by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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To: latae sententiae
2. How does Perricone plan to "fix" the fact that he considers every confession & marriage that took place at the chapel from 1984 until until his arrival last month to be invalid, since Fr. Wickens & other priests who visited from time to time (including the SSPX) allegedly lacked the proper canonical faculties ?

Not invalid....Valid, but technically illicit. See the appropriate response as to SSPX priests.

47 posted on 12/27/2004 11:54:54 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Mike Fieschko
From your personal experience, what was the indult location with such a requirement

I have no personal experience w/ the Indult Mass, but anyone who does, does so under these conditions, at least implicitly.

...it be made publically clear beyond all ambiguity that such priests and their respective faithful in no way share the positions of those who call in question the legitimacy and doctrinal exactitude of the Roman Missal promulgated by Pope Paul VI in 1970.

This either is your position, or it is not, regardless of where you go to Mass.
48 posted on 12/27/2004 11:55:45 AM PST by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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To: latae sententiae
3. If there are any children left who are preparing for Confirmation, does your new Archbishop plan to come & do the honors in the 1962 Rite, or are they being directed to the local Novus Ordo churches?

All Sacraments are to be in the 1962 Rite.

49 posted on 12/27/2004 11:56:43 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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