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In West Orange, a church divided
The Star-Ledger ^ | Tuesday, December 28, 2004 | JEFF DIAMANT

Posted on 12/28/2004 2:00:22 PM PST by CatherineSiena

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To: Gerard.P

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41 posted on 12/29/2004 10:53:12 AM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: hobbes1
What I am saying is, the only nearly 'Local' (singular) Society mass, is in NYC. Which is not what you portrayed.

See #38.

Otherwise more of you SSPX voluptuaries would leave the Essex House.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, you're keenly aware of every little detail, allright.
42 posted on 12/29/2004 10:57:32 AM PST by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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To: latae sententiae
The St. Anthony's website says nothing of your new Archbishop.

Didn't know there was one. I do know there are sites about St Anthony's maintained by individuals. Link?

Don't believe everything you (don't) read on the internet. : D

Good point.
43 posted on 12/29/2004 11:02:28 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (A thunder of jets in an open sky ... a streak of grey ... and a cheerful 'Hi!')
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To: hobbes1
the Essex House

On Northfield across from the Zoo? Their brunch is ok.

Is the parking garage finished?
44 posted on 12/29/2004 11:07:08 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (A thunder of jets in an open sky ... a streak of grey ... and a cheerful 'Hi!')
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To: hobbes1
No, there is no guarantee, that in 2.5 years time, after everything had been ceded, they could theoretically close the Parish, and take their booty. That was the problem

Fr. Fullerton addressed your concern. Yes, the SSPX has sold off buildings and properties - to purchase/build larger chapel(s) in the same areas after the original chapel(s) could no longer amply hold the increasing number of Mass-goers. Big difference between taking cash and abandoning the flock (which is what you're concerned about), and making their chapels bigger and better for the existing and growing flock (which is what they've done in the past.)
45 posted on 12/29/2004 11:12:23 AM PST by sempertrad
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To: Mike Fieschko

The web page is
http://members.tripod.com/StAnthonysChapel/

What is the Essex house? What town is it in? And why is everyone talking about it?


46 posted on 12/29/2004 11:15:16 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84

It's around the block from St.Anthony's. And it currently Hosts the 9:00 w/Fr.Murphy.

When that one was inviting you to Fairlfield, he as basiclly luring you on a drive....lol


47 posted on 12/29/2004 11:16:41 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: sempertrad

Look, aside from the not staffing the Parish, etc....THe demand of a take it or leave it decision, does not inspire confidence.


48 posted on 12/29/2004 11:19:42 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Mike Fieschko

Yes, that's place.


49 posted on 12/29/2004 11:20:01 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: hobbes1

lol, that would have been a pretty good prank.


50 posted on 12/29/2004 11:20:07 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: CatherineSiena; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarineMomJ; thor76; Land of the Irish; Grey Ghost II
I see the thread was noted by CTAC:

Catholic Tradition and Counterrevolution

Hi RF, DM, GS et al ;-)

51 posted on 12/29/2004 11:21:50 AM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Mike Fieschko
Don't believe everything you don't read on the internet.
Good point.

Well, normally it would be, except one would think that the SSPX itself, would have a somewhat vested interest in making available the times and places that the intersted faithful could attend....lol

52 posted on 12/29/2004 11:24:22 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: hobbes1

I believe this is their web page,

http://www.essexhouserestaurant.com/


53 posted on 12/29/2004 11:24:33 AM PST by csbyrnes84
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To: csbyrnes84
What is the Essex house? What town is it in?

A restaurant on westbound Northfield between Prospect and PV Way. One of its buildings looks like / was an old railroad car.

And why is everyone talking about it?

Beats me. Why do birds sing so gay? And lovers await the break of the day?
54 posted on 12/29/2004 11:25:05 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (A thunder of jets in an open sky ... a streak of grey ... and a cheerful 'Hi!')
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To: hobbes1
one would think that the SSPX itself, would have a somewhat vested interest in making available

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Tell me more.
55 posted on 12/29/2004 11:27:59 AM PST by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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To: csbyrnes84
What is this talk of a VFW mass in Fairfield? Is that being said by the SSPX? Is that a regular mass?

Yes. It was announced that the SSPX will provide the Mass and all other Sacraments for the group from now on. The only thing that's still up in the air is if all Masses will consistantly be held at the VFW (like Fr. Wickens had a standing spot at the Legion hall years ago). Masses are held in the general area when the VFW is unavailable, however...
56 posted on 12/29/2004 11:28:29 AM PST by sempertrad
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To: sempertrad

Sundays Only at 9, or HDO, as well ?

Thanx.


57 posted on 12/29/2004 11:33:37 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Viva Christo Rey
For those from CTAC who may incredibly just be learning of this story, AHEM, and are in need of some ACCURATE background material on this issue, please review the admirable coverage from Traditio on the demise of St. Anthony's as a Catholic Church, and it's betrayal to the apostates:

Begin with the last post from November 22nd and work backwards in time:

Traditio Commentary

58 posted on 12/29/2004 11:34:23 AM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: latae sententiae
The St. Anthony's website says nothing of your new Archbishop.

Gee, Saint Anthony of Padua Chapel site on tripod (hmmm, ok), says:
Site Under Construction
Will Soon Reopen!
(Improper use of the tone mark, though, since it's neither a command, an actual exclamation or an astonishing sentence.)
59 posted on 12/29/2004 11:35:31 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (A thunder of jets in an open sky ... a streak of grey ... and a cheerful 'Hi!')
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To: hobbes1
somewhat vested interest in making available the times and places that the intersted faithful could attend....lol

One would think that the purveyor of that dopey Tripod page would be more than proud to announce your new state of servitude to Meyers & his band of merry "men." Instead, all I see is a picture of Fr. Wickens, and another one of 3 SSPX priests at his funeral. Trying to lure Traditional Catholics? lol! Notably absent, though, is the link that used to be there to an issue Fr. Wickens' NJ Catholic News, which would make the Archbishop's eyeballs fall out if he read it.
60 posted on 12/29/2004 11:36:13 AM PST by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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