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Unity Publishing newsletter ^ | January | Richard Salbato

Posted on 01/10/2005 11:08:23 PM PST by nickcarraway

It can finally be told that Mel Gibson met and talked with Sister Lucia of Fatima at the Convent in Coimbra, Portugal.

During lent of 2004 Mel Gibson's movie, "The Passion of Christ" was making news all over the world. From our knowledge of Carmelite Convents, we knew that the Carmelites could not leave the convent and see the film, which we thought would be a great thing for preparation for Good Friday and Easter. But how could we get them the film since it was not yet out on DVD and the convent in Coimbra does not have a TV, except for editing tapes taken of important events in the convent and this is a very small TV.

Word was sent out to make contact with Icon Productions or Mel Gibson to get a DVD for the Convent in Coimbra during lent. Thanks to a wonderful young girl in Porto, Portugal, Luciana Regadas, who knew a volunteer worker for Icon Productions and Mel Gibson, named Lourdes Gutierrez, this contact was made. Lourdes Gutierrez responded the same day with the following.

My name is Lourdes Gutierrez, I live in Florida, Luciana Regadas sent me an email yesterday pertaining to "
The Passion of the Christ." To give you a little background I have been involved with the movie since October in a volunteer capacity, I helped them put together two screenings in the Miami, Florida area. Since then it has almost become a full time job. Lucinda tells me that Sr. Lucia and her fellow sisters, would like very much to see this movie. Please confirm this, and I promise to do everything in my power to get this information to Mel Gibson, but I have to be sure about the request. Actually when he came to Miami for our screening he told me he had been to Fatima and had liked it very much.
Hoping to hear from you soon.

God Bless,

Lourdes Gutierrez

In other words, prove that the Convent wants to see the film and then things can happen. We went back to the convent for written confirmation but all but the Porter Nuns were in Lent prayers and could not be contacted. One thing we knew was that we could also contact two other people who could talk with the Mother Superior even if it was Lent, the Bishop and/or Father Fr. Luis Condor, Vice Postulator for the cause of canonization of the Fátima seers. We contacted Father Condor, who contacted the Convent Mother Superior, Celina.

Mel Gibson had come to Fatima in September of 2003 to ask Our Lady for help in the film and later Jim Caviezel (the actor who played Christ) came to show the film to religious institutions to get their opinions of the movie. He even went to the Convent in Coimbra to show the film but was refused because he insisted on going behind the cloister which is not permitted.

Ninety two emails back and forth later and many phone calls, a deal was set to show the film to the nuns. This was difficult because there was no DVDs yet and only 1 inch tapes, which require special cameras and large pull down screens. We even got approval for Mel Gibson to see Lucia in a private meeting, but because Mel Gibson might be attacked as using Lucia to promote his film, he, Mel Gibson, and not the convent insisted that such a visit would be strictly secret.

In the end only Father Condor, the convent and the Icon Production crew knew of the date of showing the film. We knew the month but that was all. It must have cost Mel Gibson ten to twenty thousand dollars to show this film to the convent because it took a full crew of camera men, a speaker, extras, and of course Lourdes Gutierrez came to show everyone what to do as she had make all the arrangements.

Mel Gibson later came into Portugal to promote the Portuguese version of the film and then sneaked over to the Convent without anyone knowing and met with Sister Lucia. We were told not to print this or let anyone know unless the Convent or Mel Gibson gave permission for it. This did not come until after the film ran its course in the theaters and the DVD ran its campaign in the stores.

We came up with the idea of Mel Gibson seeing Lucia for theological reasons, as she is very very pro Holy Father and we are not sure about Mel Gibson's feelings on this subject and he never says one way or the other. It seemed a good idea for the two to meet. Such meetings are not hard if you go through Father Condor and give good reasons.

Mel Gibson visited Lucia of Fatima at Carmel of Coimbra in July. The actor was accompanied by his wife, Robin Moore and Fr. Luis Condor. According to Mother Celina, the actor and his wife are wonderful and very humble people.

"He is very outspoken and a person easily to be liked, and he answered all of our questions about the movie. Some questions were asked by Sr. Lucy, who attended the meeting which lasted for about an hour, was always very alert following the conversation."

The language conversation was held in English, which, according to Sr. Celina, "was not a problem at all, since various nuns do speak and understand English well."

What the nuns or Lucia said about the movie is not known and may never be known because statements by Lucia or for that matter any Carmelite nun throughout the world are always sent through the bishop or the Holy Father first. Because of her power of influence Lucia must be very careful what she says publicly.

TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; fatima; melgibson; ourlady; portugal; sisterlucia; thepassion

Sister Sophia, Lucia, wife, Mel Gibson and Father Condor

Lucia shaking hands with Mel Gibson

Lucia shaking hands with Mel Gibson. Lucia behind grate, Mrs. Gibson, Mel and Father Condor.

1 posted on 01/10/2005 11:08:23 PM PST by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 01/10/2005 11:45:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

Sr. Lucia looks remarkably well for her years. Thanks for the ping!

3 posted on 01/11/2005 2:44:32 AM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: NYer

What a privilege! I think I'd read somewhere that Mel's own daughter is in a cloistered convent.

4 posted on 01/11/2005 3:54:12 AM PST by old and tired
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for the post.

5 posted on 01/11/2005 4:32:29 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: nickcarraway

Pic links are broken!

6 posted on 01/11/2005 5:18:43 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: nickcarraway
Pictures are of rather poor quality.

Last month these same photos were nicely posted in color on the Carmel of Coimbra web site, but have now been taken down.

Lovely to see the devotion to the Holy Father of these good sisters.

Sister Lucia will turn 98 on March 22.

7 posted on 01/11/2005 5:40:58 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: Dominick
They don't seem to want to link.

Here's a link to the site: Mel Gibson Visits Lucia of Fatima

8 posted on 01/11/2005 5:41:18 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: nickcarraway

Interesting. Just wish I could see the pictures. Let me know if the links get fixed.

9 posted on 01/11/2005 5:43:44 AM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: murphE

Put your cursor over the broken pic link. right click. Select view image. It will take you to the orginial image. What is broken is the showing it on this site, but the information from where the original image was is still on the link.

If a broken link is not removed from the internet, this often works.

10 posted on 01/11/2005 6:29:41 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nickcarraway

Hopefully he wasn't wasting he time admiring Lumpy Riefenstahl's films.

11 posted on 01/11/2005 6:31:31 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: Petronski

Sheesh. He said he liked his film, he didn't say he agreed with it.

12 posted on 01/11/2005 6:33:38 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: nickcarraway

Wonderful story, with proof in pictures. I only hope and pray that Gibson does several more films based on Christ and His followers, including certain martyrs and saints. BTTT.

13 posted on 01/11/2005 7:22:01 AM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul; GirlShortstop; Raquel

Did you see?

14 posted on 01/11/2005 8:28:08 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder if he is think about doing a film about Fatima?

15 posted on 01/11/2005 8:41:03 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
I wonder if he is think about doing a film about Fatima?

Wouldn't that be fantastic?! To tell you the truth, though, I wish he'd do one about Our Lady of Guadalupe. I know Father Groeschel's group would like one about St. Francis. And still others who wish he'd make one about Padre Pio. Poor Mel must get inundated with requests - I think his next religious film is about Masada. I wonder where the Holy Spirit will lead him after that?

16 posted on 01/11/2005 11:26:17 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Petronski

I'll be this time he refrained from throwing around the F word?

17 posted on 01/11/2005 2:23:03 PM PST by proust
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To: Petronski

I'll bet this time he refrained from throwing around the F word?

18 posted on 01/11/2005 2:23:04 PM PST by proust
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To: Northern Yankee
I did I did I did!!

Caught the NewsMax email earlier this evening. Too cool :)

(and talk about inspiration! Wow Mel!)

19 posted on 01/11/2005 7:53:19 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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