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To: GopherGOPer
...what is wrong with Eagles Wings, and Here I am Lord, and City of God?

Wrong? I don't know if I would say wrong, more like, close but no cigar.

To my untrained ear a lot of the 1970's - 90's tunes are too choppy, too many eighth notes. Too much prancing about, not built for those of us from peasant stock. Not written to be sung by those with little confidence in their ability to sing. Just an opinion, but they won't last.

A lot of the traditionalists also point out that the lyric content is oriented toward I, I, I and not so much toward worship.

On Eagle's Wings is supposed to be based on Psalm 91 but I'll be darned if I can figure out where in Psalm 91 the refrain comes from:

And He will raise you up on eagle's wings, Bear you on the breath of dawn, Make you to shine like the sun, And hold you in the palm of His Hand.

Then there's the whole minor key to major key change in going from the verse to the refrain. The emotional tone seems a little forced.

Here I Am, Lord. Pretty good melody in the refrain, much better than the verse which always seems labored to me. Do you know the derivation of the phrase: I will hold Your people in my heart? I don't know why that phrase makes me grit my teeth but it does. Maybe if I knew it was based on Scripture, I could get used to it.

City of God? Can't comment, haven't heard that one enough recently. I could make a wise-ass comment about how I remember it but that would be pointless. I think maybe it's starting to fade from the scene.

There's nothing particularly wrong with any of the current tunes that are played over and over and over again but we tossed aside a lot of good tunes for no better reason than being 'up to date'. And we just follow OCP's suggestions for appropriate tunes without much thought. Some of the old tunes are still in the hymnals. They just don't get played. Why not?

Once in a while, I like singing something that has stood the test of time. In some way it connects me to everybody in the past that sang the same song.

I think the article makes a good point that OCP sells a whole product line that is helpful to most parishes with limited resources. Better than inventing the wheel from scratch. But they do have a particular vision of Catholic liturgy and they are only lay people with no particular authority.

8 posted on 01/18/2005 1:53:37 PM PST by siunevada
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To: siunevada

Ok, now that you've pointed it out, I'm not so sure I can find the part about the palm of God's hand.

As for Here I am Lord, I really see it as a great song, and an inspiration. As for holding God's people in one's heart, it means to love all and serve all. As Jesus loved and served and demonstrated at the Last Supper. Its also always spoke to me about St. Peter and the apostles who fostered the early Church by holding all the early Christians in their heart. Its a song that makes one seriously reflect on a possible vocation, at least it does to me.

Some of the other songs can get too inclusive language'y and its about feelings(ugh I hate it when it goes to feelings). But I was looking for why these songs are liturgically wrong. I know no better for songs, so I was hoping you'ld help me see it.

19 posted on 01/18/2005 8:54:12 PM PST by GopherGOPer
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