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Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies
Religion News ^ | Feb 14th, 2005

Posted on 02/14/2005 2:03:24 PM PST by missyme

Sister Lucia Marto, the last of three children who claimed to have seen the Virgin Mary in a series of 1917 apparitions in the town of Fatima, has died, Portuguese media reported. She was 97.

Sister Lucia, a Roman Catholic nun, had been ill for the past three months and died Sunday at the Convent of Carmelitas in Coimbra, 190 kilometers (120 miles) north of Lisbon, TSF radio reported, citing family sources.

Prime Minister Pedro Santana Lopes called Lucia's death "very emotional news."

Lucia and two of her cousins, siblings Jacinta and Francisco, said in 1917 that the Virgin Mary had been appearing to them once a month and predicting events, such as world wars, the reemergence of Christianity in Russia, and one that Church officials say foretold the 1981 attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II. The appearances took place on the 13th day of each month in Fatima, a town 110 kilometers (about 70 miles) north of Lisbon.

The first sighting was May 13, and the appearances took place for another five months, ending abruptly in October of that year.

Shortly after, both Jacinta and Francisco died of respiratory diseases. But Lucia became a nun and penned two memoirs while living in convents.

The Catholic Church later built a shrine in Fatima, which is visited each year by millions of people from around the world. More than 100,000 people from dozens of countries routinely attend the annual commemorations of the sightings.

The pope has visited three times since becoming pontiff in 1978, spending a few minutes with Lucia during a 1991 trip to the site. He has claimed the Virgin of Fatima saved his life after he was shot by a Turkish gunman in St. Peter's Square in 1981. The attack, on May 13, coincided with the feast day of Our Lady of Fatima, and John Paul credits the Virgin's intercession for his survival.

In 2000, he visited Fatima to beatify Jacinta and Francisco.

A funeral was scheduled for Tuesday, TSF reported.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; fatima; lucia; lucy; secret; sisterlucia; sisterlucy; thirdsecret

1 posted on 02/14/2005 2:03:24 PM PST by missyme
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To: missyme

Isn't there a secret that the Church won't tell?


2 posted on 02/14/2005 2:06:18 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog

Yes there is...


3 posted on 02/14/2005 2:08:35 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: Salvation; Coleus; NYer; Tax-chick

Interesting news ping.


4 posted on 02/14/2005 2:11:36 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Dog; All

LAST SECRET REVEALED

The Vatican revealed its interpretation of the vision during the Pope's visit to Fatima in May 2000 on the anniversary of the assassination attempt. One of her last public appearances was with the Pope at Fatima.

Dos Santos's recollection of the third part of the visions, which she wrote down in 1944, saw "a bishop dressed in white (and) we had the impression that it was the Holy Father".

As the vision continued, the children say the Pope reaching the top of a mountain where "he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him".

Before the Vatican unveiled the vision, papal envoys visited Dos Santos in her cloistered convent to seek her opinion of the Vatican's interpretation and her permission to reveal it.

"She repeated her conviction that the vision of Fatima concerns above all the struggle of atheistic communism against the Church and against Christians, and describes the terrible sufferings of the victims of the faith in 20th century," a Vatican document said in 2000.

The document went on to say: "When asked: 'Is the principal figure in the vision the Pope?' Sister Lucia replied at once that it was.

Dos Santos was born the youngest of seven children in a peasant family in Aljustrel, a village in central Portugal.

The events at Fatima unfolded against a backdrop of religious persecution under anti-clerical factions that ruled Portugal after the overthrow of the monarchy in 1910.

In 1916 she experienced her first vision, when an angel appeared to the children, she wrote in her memoirs.

On May 13, 1917, the Virgin Mary appeared to her and her cousins Jacinta and Francisco Marta on an oak tree. On her last appearance before an estimated 50,000 onlookers, witnesses claim to have experienced a 15-minute spectacle of bright lights and rainbow colours.

In her memoirs, dos Santos said the Virgin Mary appeared to the children six times in 1917. Jacinta and Francisco died in the influenza pandemic in 1919 and 1920.

The two were beatified, the last step to sainthood, by Pope John Paul during his Fatima visit in 2000.

One of her last visitors was actor Mel Gibson, director of the 2004 movie "The Passion of The Christ". He met her at the convent in July 2004 and gave her a DVD of his movie.


5 posted on 02/14/2005 2:14:20 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Saw it, thanks. My kids have a book about the Fatima apparitions, and they thought it was cool that Sr. Lucia was still alive. It's so long ago for them ...


6 posted on 02/14/2005 2:14:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (It's Monday here. How are things there?)
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To: Dog

Did the Virgin tell the kids to keep these secrets?


7 posted on 02/14/2005 2:17:02 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Tax-chick

8 posted on 02/14/2005 2:18:22 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme

Weren't there some people who believed that her prophetic vision foretold the assassination of Bishop Oscar Romero, in El Salvador?


9 posted on 02/14/2005 2:19:43 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Tax-chick
Way long ago.

:)

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

10 posted on 02/14/2005 2:20:13 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

That I am not sure of...
Reg : 3rd Secret
I think the 3rd Secret actually has to do with the pain and suffering that is about to get alot worse with the corruption in the church and the rise in a Godless world


11 posted on 02/14/2005 2:22:06 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme

Why is this news? Claiming to see the virgin Mary is certainly no evidence of it happening; and exactly how would one know it was the virgin Mary.


12 posted on 02/14/2005 2:22:49 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots

What evidence are you looking for? The story and what happened is evidence...


13 posted on 02/14/2005 2:25:23 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme
What evidence are you looking for? The story and what happened is evidence...

A story is not evidence; it's merely a story.

14 posted on 02/14/2005 2:55:33 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots

hey connect the dots and read up on it before you speak.


15 posted on 02/14/2005 2:57:23 PM PST by CouncilofTrent (Quo Primum...)
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To: connectthedots; netmilsmom

uhhh, a miracle (called "the miracle of the sun") is attributed to it. It was seen by a hell whole lot of people. Go peddle your junk elsewhere.


16 posted on 02/14/2005 3:01:06 PM PST by CouncilofTrent (Quo Primum...)
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To: CouncilofTrent

Exactamundo!


17 posted on 02/14/2005 3:02:21 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme
Interesting.

It does seem like that little girl had a much greater degree of accuracy-as far as predictions are concerned-than Nostradamus, or any other purported clairvoyants/prophets in recent memory.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

19 posted on 02/14/2005 3:40:07 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: missyme
Lots more info here:

Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

SISTER LUCIA RIP

LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97

Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies

20 posted on 02/14/2005 4:51:10 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Marcellinus
Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)
21 posted on 02/14/2005 5:06:55 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: missyme
Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)
22 posted on 02/14/2005 5:16:58 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Dog; missyme
No. All Secrets have been told.

Some people think that there is a conspiracy that keeps one secret, secret.

Sr. Lucia says that everything which was supposed to be told, has been told.
23 posted on 02/14/2005 6:57:41 PM PST by It's me
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To: connectthedots

Actually the Church requires a substantial amount of evidence before it will bother declaring an event like this as "worthy of belief" (catholics are not required to believe in it though - as it is in the realm of private revelation and is not a part of the deposit of faith)

There are many similar events throughout history that the Church never ruled on because of lack of evidence.

There was a heckuva lot of supportive evidence to rule positively for Fatima.
While the children were the only ones to see Mary - the crowds witnessed other phenomena (a globe of light, the tree branch bending, flashes of light, rose petals which fell from a beam of light, scent of roses, sound of thunder...)
Then of course there was the miracle of the sun. Estimated crowd of 70,000 people present. That's alot of witnesses.

Furthermore - the church waited to see if the prophecies would pan out before they issued approval.
They did.


24 posted on 02/14/2005 7:45:51 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Even more interesting is the she died on the 13th.


25 posted on 02/14/2005 8:44:38 PM PST by Coleus (http://www.reversingroe.com/ Hear Norma McCorvey in this film)
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To: Coleus
Hmm...

I didn't even think about that aspect of the story.

Interesting.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

26 posted on 02/14/2005 8:47:45 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: All

I believe in faith, but should one believe everything one is told.


27 posted on 02/14/2005 9:00:32 PM PST by Ibredd
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To: Ibredd

The vision of the so called "apparitions" is being treated as a prophecy, and the bible tells us that if a prophet speaks not according to the Word of God, he or she is not a true prophet. I have not seen or heard a thing that has made me even think that this vision is according to the Word of God, so I have never taken it seriously.


28 posted on 02/15/2005 2:07:45 PM PST by tessalu
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