Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

I typed the word 'diocese' into my search engine and wish that I hadn't
Angelqueen.org ^ | February 16, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 02/16/2005 8:51:12 AM PST by AAABEST

In the News section of my favorite search engine, I typed the single word "diocese". These were the top stories for today, February 16, 2005:

NJ DIOCESE TO PAY $5M
A report of over 2 dozen men claiming abuse in the Diocese of Paterson, who settled for 5 million dollars. Although five million dollars may sound like a lot of money, it's only 1/20th of the amount the Diocese of Orange had to pay out when it forked out one hundred million. Whew.

Diocese pays $65,000 to abuse victim
65 grand to one victim, relatively speaking, has become chump change when one takes a look at the larger picture. We've fallen so far that stories where the payout is less than many millions have become good news.

N.Va. Priest Charged in Child Porn Probe
Just another run of the mill report about another priest caught with lots of kiddie porn. Anyone want to bet that the majority of photos were of boys? Didn't think so.

8 area priests accused in '04
8 priests in one diocese within a one year period.

Oakland bishop to host abuse apology service
Apology for guess what. Another boy-raping priest.

NY ARCHDIOCESE TO SHUT 6 SCHOOLS
Whew. Not very good News, but a story about hundreds of Catholic families not being able to send their children to Catholic schools is a refreshing break from gay criminal child abusers.

Gomez will face declining number of priests
Installation of a new bishop is supposed to be good news... right?

Group says Dubuque Diocese is too slow to release abuse ... 
There's nothing happening in Iowa, not even potato sack races (that's Idaho). Nothing of course except the local diocese being descended upon as a result of sexual criminals.

Games Bishops Play: Why DA Bill Hill should be wary
Unlike Iowa there are things happening in Dallas, including a full blown DA investigation of the local diocese for criminal sexual activity.

Save St. Thomas Aquinas, parents plead
This is just one New York Catholic school out of a record breaking 22 within its diocese being closed.

Catholics protest plan to close Toledo Diocese churches
Toledo diocese closing or merging 33 parishes.

Lake Charles diocese shutting down seven churches
Only seven? What a bunch of slackers.

The stories listed above are not the result of internet sleuthing or lengthy investigation. They prominent headlines found on the very first two Google pages from only one single day's News. A quick glance shows millions of dollars paid out, dozens of closed schools and parishes, child rape investigations, lawsuits, disgraced priests and a disturbing shortage of priests to lead the flock.

Just another day in this springtime of the Catholic Church.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; diocese; gay; google; investigation; lawsuit; lawsuits; priests; scandal; schools
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

1 posted on 02/16/2005 8:51:18 AM PST by AAABEST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Robert Drobot; ultima ratio; Land of the Irish; pascendi; narses; Pyro7480; ...

ping


2 posted on 02/16/2005 8:53:24 AM PST by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST

We are a Good Friday people.


3 posted on 02/16/2005 8:55:57 AM PST by Loyalist (Please visit this fine Catholic lady's blog: fiatmihi.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST

Could be a reflection of the media's war against the Church. Seems like negative news is emphasized and positive news is verboten.


4 posted on 02/16/2005 8:58:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy
Of course the media is always in "go negative" mode.

The problem is that even if no matter how negative the media chooses to be, the News regarding American Church has never been nearly this bad.

Just a few decades ago - save for the occasional perv priest - you wouldn't be reading any of these stories.

5 posted on 02/16/2005 9:11:38 AM PST by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST

It's the sign of the times unfortunitely.

BTW, I put up your news ticker on my site. Thanks again.


6 posted on 02/16/2005 10:00:10 AM PST by PRSOrlando
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
The Rev. Robert C. Brooks, 72, who led St. John the Apostle in Leesburg for 14 years, ... [h]e joined the diocese in 1974, ... Investigators have found no evidence that Brooks acted illegally with children at the Leesburg church or any other at which he served during his three decades with the Diocese of Arlington and 13 years with the Diocese of Richmond, Plowman said.

Ordained in 1961, therefore must have been a seminary student during the 1950s.

7 posted on 02/16/2005 10:23:22 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard

Reference to the ComPost article Link #3.


8 posted on 02/16/2005 10:25:52 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
Most of the men claimed that they were violated as boys from 1968 to 1982 by James Hanley, who served at three northern New Jersey parishes.

He was removed from the priesthood in 2002, 17 years after church officials learned of complaints against him.

...

The statement also said that he [Hanley] had admitted to Rodimer in 1984 that he had molested about a dozen boys.

No clue as to when Hanley and Rodimer were trained or ordained.

9 posted on 02/16/2005 10:28:40 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard

Dangit, didit again. That's reference Link #1, the NY Post article.


10 posted on 02/16/2005 10:34:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
From Delaware online, Link #2:

John F. Dougherty Jr., 61, who lives in Las Vegas, Nev., said the Rev. Edward B. Carley raped him when he was 10 years old, serving as an altar boy at St. Ann's Church in Wilmington. Carley served as assistant pastor there from 1954 to 1962. Dougherty said he was in contact with Carley for more than 10 years and was abused repeatedly by him.

No further comment

11 posted on 02/16/2005 10:36:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PRSOrlando

Kool. What is the url to your site again?


12 posted on 02/16/2005 10:43:52 AM PST by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
From the Denver Post Link #4

In March, the Denver archdiocese announced that it could substantiate claims against seven diocesan priests who abused 21 victims since 1950. The archdiocese said it had spent nearly $1 million on settlements and counseling during that period.

13 posted on 02/16/2005 10:47:41 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard
The articles are about many more issues than just gay priests, and there are many more subject priests in the referenced stories than the two you mentioned.

Not sure I understand your point. Or are you holding out that all or a majority of the problems highlighted in the articles above are because of priests who were ordained in the 50s?

14 posted on 02/16/2005 10:53:30 AM PST by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
You wrote:

" Just another day in this springtime of the Catholic Church."

Looks like that springtime of perversity was going strong in the '50s, and maybe earlier ... but the earlier victims are conveniently dead. The difference between now and the '50s is that the perversity is being uncovered and dealt with. It casts clearer light on the Papal directive in 1960 that fags were not to be admitted to seminaries or to be ordained. There appears to have been a good reason for the Pope to issue that directive.

The lack of priests and the consequent closing (or in my diocese, delay in opening) of churches is directly related to delay in purging the priesthood of poofters. See "Goodbye, Good Men" for details.

Some folks like to blame the Vatican II Bogeyman for all evil in the Church. Trouble is, the evil that they are rightly protesting is older than Vatican II. Some folks are uncomfortable with that fact. They shouldn't be. The Truth will make you free.

15 posted on 02/16/2005 11:04:08 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
Couple of other comments:

The revelation of all this perversity, and the consequent cleansing of it is a springtime sort of thing. It's spring cleaning. And it's about bloody time. Perhaps the upheaval following Vatican II was necessary in order to bring all sorts of festering evil to the surface where it could be dealt with. The Holy Spirit Knows what He's doing, and I'm not about to second guess Him. Perhaps you would rather that this mess just continued to be swept under the rug, like it was in the '50s?

There's no Resurrection without the Crucifixion; no Easter without Lent, no Christmas without Advent; no Absolution without Confession. And there's no purging of the poofters without first publicly identifying the poofters and making reparation (to the extent that such can be done) for their sins.

16 posted on 02/16/2005 11:18:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard
Although V-II has been a disaster in many ways and may have much to do with some of the other problems highlighted in the articles above, I realize that deviant priests existed long before 1962.

That said, there is no arguing that they were nowhere near as prolific as they've become. Whether or not that's a direct result of V-II is hard to determine. In fact I would be inclined to believe that as problematic as Vat II is, in and of itself it doesn't have much to do with prolific faggery.

17 posted on 02/16/2005 11:52:41 AM PST by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
These were the top stories for today, February 16, 2005:

I also typed in diocese at Google News about an hour ago. The top three were there as you listed them but #4 was good news.

It might be more accurate to say these are among the top stories on the first two pages.

And yes, it is very difficult to read the facts related to corruption and perversity within the Church.

18 posted on 02/16/2005 11:56:19 AM PST by siunevada
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/brodimer.html

There is your info in "bishop" Rodimer of New Jersey. Please note who ordained/consecrated him.

The nut does not fall very far from the tree.


19 posted on 02/16/2005 11:58:18 AM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: siunevada
Well google is dynamic. I didn't find very much good news then, as I didn't when I did a search now.

The following is as of 3:06 PM:

NJ diocese to pay $5 million
Kansas City Star (subscription), MO - 12 hours ago
... NJ — More than two dozen men who said they were molested as boys by Roman Catholic priests have reached a $5 million settlement with the Diocese of Paterson. ...
Priestly abuse price tag: $5M NorthJersey.com
Accusers in clergy abuse speak out Newark Star Ledger
Men Who Accused Priests of Abuse Settle Lawsuit New York Times
Newsday - all 48 related »
Diocese pays $65,000 to abuse victim
The News Journal, DE - 13 hours ago
Catholic Diocese of Wilmington officials confirmed Tuesday a $65,000 payment to a former Wilmington resident as reimbursement for counseling he said he needed ...
I-Team Investigation: Priest Abuse Settlement KYW
all 2 related »
Jury indicts priest in Web child porn
Washington Times, DC - 12 hours ago
... Soren Johnson, a spokesman for the Arlington Diocese, said Father Brooks was most recently pastor of St. John the Apostle in Leesburg. ...
N.Va. Priest Charged in Child Porn Probe Washington Post
Former Leesburg Priest Indicted On Child Porn Charge Leesburg Today
Priest Faces Charges In Loudoun County NBC 4.com
Richmond Times Dispatch - WVEC.com (subscription) - all 9 related »
SoCal man settles suit against West Virginia Episcopal diocese ...
San Jose Mercury News (subscription) - Feb 15, 2005
... in a federal lawsuit he had been sexually abused by an Episcopal priest in 1968 has reached a settlement with the priest and the West Virginia Episcopal Diocese ...
SoCal man settles suit against West Virginia Episcopal diocese ... KESQ
Ex-rector may be disciplined Roanoke Times
Episcopal rift over bishop to be studied WVEC.com (subscription)
Virginian Pilot - Richmond Times Dispatch - all 14 related »
Tug-of-war In The Diocese
TheDay (subscription), CT - 9 hours ago
... “The bishop is hoping there can be a resolution,” said the diocese spokeswoman, Jacqueline Keller. That's an understatement. ...
 
We're confronting problem
USA Today - 17 hours ago
... Youth Protection. External auditors, primarily former FBI agents, have visited virtually every diocese for the past two years. In ...
We're confronting problem Yahoo News
all 2 related »
Oakland bishop to host abuse apology service
Contra Costa Times (subscription), CA - 8 hours ago
The bishop of the Diocese of Oakland will pay a visit to Our Lady of Grace Parish in Castro Valley on Thursday to apologize for a former priest alleged to have ...
Bishop plans to apologizein priest sexual-abuse case Tri-Valley Herald
all 2 related »
FAITH NOTES
Kansas City Star (subscription), MO - 12 hours ago
Biagio Mazza will show how to apply the gospel of Matthew in daily life. Mazza teaches adults in the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph. Call (816) 373-2600. ...
 
Lichtman Overstepped Bounds as Settlement Judge in Orange County ...
Metropolitan News-Enterprise, CA - 1 hour ago
... factual findings, which could have bound the parties in future proceedings, as part of his efforts to settle sex abuse claims against the Diocese of Orange ...
 
Ex-pastor indicted
Loudoun Times-Mirror, VA - 15 hours ago
... The Arlington Diocese will not reveal Brooks' whereabouts. ... John's rectory because, "The diocese wanted to move him to a place where there is no school.". ...
 

20 posted on 02/16/2005 12:12:28 PM PST by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson