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Posted on 02/25/2005 9:17:07 PM PST by Ryan Bailey
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To Ryan Bailey the Mason, I'm so sorry I just can't even entertain the thought of listening to what you have to say about this subject. You of all people can't connect as to why we, as Catholics, look for undersanding in the writings of St. Malachy. Your thinking and comments are being used as a poleax in the midst of a Christian debate/discussion. Saddly, This is just a dirty little hobby for you....
I think all these pope's connections to the prophecies are too vague to be considered solid.
Well, I am impressed you used the correct terminology, that a bishop is consecrated. (a priest is ordained) Is that terminology used among episcopalians too?
Actually you can make a stronger case for the Pope being the False Prophet of Revelations than that of the Anti-Christ.
John Paul II born on a day of the eclipse and will be buried on the day of an eclipse (April 8th). Meanwhile eathquake warnings being sounded all over the place thru the weekend. Stay tuned.
So do you want to also ignore the fact JP was buried at the time of an eclipse also? I think you need to reread other areas beside the liberal reading section at the local library.
Right back at'cha Oh Great Prophet "Charlie". Oh and it's not "I laugh at you", it's, "I laugh in your general direction".
FROM ST MALACHI:
9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.
From CNN TODAY:
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany, the church's leading hard-liner, was elected the new pope Tuesday evening in the first conclave of the new millennium. He chose the name Pope Benedict XVI and called himself "a simple, humble worker."
If this isn't it, I don't know what it is, kids...
This has to be the most obvious of all the predictions of Malachy's. God Bless him and his role as our new Pope.
The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.
This is nonseense. The Olivetan congregation was one among many reform Benedictine groups of the later Middle Ages, founded in Italy. It takes its name from "Monte Oliveto." Dozens of Benedictine groupings have been founded since. The Olivetans no more = Benedictines than the Kansas City Chiefs = professional football or the Church of Sweden = Protestants. Congregations of Benedictine monasteries(The Swiss Congregation, the Bavarian Congregation, the Subiaco Congregation) themselves, of which the Olivetans are one of the earlier ones, only came along 1000 years after Benedict wrote his rule. Until the congregations emerged in the late Middle Ages, each Benedictine house was autonomous. The house of Cluny (founded 910) resembled the later congregation in some ways, but in fact was a single house with many dependent daughter-houses. In this light, the Olivetan congregation is a tiny drop on the ocean of Benedictine monasticism.
To identify the Malachy prophecy (itself a 17th-century forgery) and it's use of "Olive" with the Olivetan congregation, is mere word association.
To identify "Benedictine" with Olivetan is more mere word association nonsense. To then associate Benedict XVI with "Benedictine monks" in general--that's three absurd leaps by mere word association in a row.
Astrology, clarivoyants etc. all depend on leaps like this--if you try hard enough, you can connect just about anything with anything.
The prophcy of Malachy will have to be stretched every which way but up to make it fit our new German Pope.
So much for prophets. They're right about half the time.
Karol Józef Wojty³a , known as John Paul II since his October 1978 election to the papacy, was born in Wadowice, a small city 50 kilometres from Cracow, on May 18, 1920.
Do you mean Briton? There was no 'England' until about 750AD or so.
"This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold."
I know that others have said the same thing. But this is the post that made me sign up for the board.
I don't see where you get that from what 'Malachy' wrote. He says that Peter the Great will 'feed his flock' which is the exact opposite of what you suggest.
Also your version would directly contradict the Bible which says that the 'gates of hell shall not prevail against this Church'. We can rest assured that your interpretation is incorrect.
katzinger is benadictine.
katzinger is benadictine.
How do you know he's a Benedictine? Granted he took the name of "Benedict" which is pretty interesting, but I can't find any indication he is Benedictine.
Mine? Ii didn't say anything like that.
do you mean Ratzinger?
Peace be with you.
Of course we live in the end times. The end times began when Christ ascended into heaven. The church has waited since then for his second coming.
However, your post alludes to the feeling that people seem to be "worked up" over the thought that the end of the end times has approached. Christians should always act as if Christ is coming today, tomorrow or the next day. He said that "no man knew the day nor the hour of his arrival," just that it was close.
You think the world is going to end?
Ratzinger is not a Benedictine. He is not any sort of order priest. He has gone to Benedictine monasteries for retreats, but it is not true that he is Benedictine. He is a diocesan priest.
From his biography on the Vatican website:
In March 1977, Paul VI elected him Archbishop of Munich and Freising and on 28 May 1977 he was consecrated, the first diocesan priest after 80 years to take over the pastoral ministry of this large Bavarian diocese.
Full biography can be read here:
Peter was not a pope, he was an APOSTLE, the word pope is not even in the bible. In the bible the Apostles are not voted on by a 2/3 majority , they are chosen by the Lord and ascended from the 12 APOSTLES. When the leader dies, the NEXT or number 1 apostle becomes leader, and a new 12th apostle is chosen by the Lord. That is the way Christ set it up and it remains the same today ! Your only claim to the see is that Peter lived and died in Rome, so he MUST have left the keys there ! Your own literature states that the keys was TAKEN not given by Peter.
Peter's title, given to him numerous times throughout the gospels, is "primus." This is usually translated as "first," but each account of the call of the first disciples informs us that Peter was not, in fact, chosen first. "Primus," in fact, is used as a title throughout the Greco-Roman world.
Peter is referred to more often in the gospels than all disciples put together. In fact, for 26 chapters, Luke-Acts contains no conversations among the disciples (other than Judas) that does not center around Peter. It is in a private conversation with Peter that Jesus says, "Shepherd my sheep." Bear in mind Jesus called himself, "The Good Shpeherd," which is why the office of Peter is called, "Vicar of Christ."
"Pope" is a crude name given in English to the Bishop of Rome, derived from "Il Papa," or "The Daddy."
>>When the leader dies, the NEXT or number 1 apostle becomes leader, and a new 12th apostle is chosen by the Lord. <<
Pure fantasy. There is no biblical account of the death of Peter (except possibly a prophetic allusion in Revelations, depending on how you interpret some pretty esoteric stuff), so there is no reference to how the primacy was passed on.
Jesus, when he appointed the disciples, gave them charge to rule the church. The means by which they do so was granted unto them. "Whatever you declare loosed (permitted) on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven, and whatever you declare bound (prohibited by law) on Earth shall be bound in Heaven."
Youre right. The final pope will be called Peter The Roman, and he will be the false prophet as discribed in The Revelation of Jesus Christ, The final Book of The Bible. When this takes place, if not already accomplished, Jesus will return for all who trust in Him as Christians. Removing us and opening the door for The Tribulation. The anti-christ will rise out of Rome, along with the last pope (a roman),as the false prophet.
Jesus Christ has raised me from the dead!
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I am in the process of attempting to respond to the first 1000 results in a google search for ‘Peter the Roman’, the final pontiff in the St.
Malachy prophecies. Total results are over 3 million. Yet, the prophecy given in 1139 A.D. was in virtual obscurity for over 400 years until the invention of the printing press. In the computer age there has been a resurgence in the interest of the list of names.
As Jesus Christ spoke of not rejoicing that the spirits are subject to us, but that our names are written in heaven, and the fact that Jesus Christ has raised me from the dead to the office of ‘Peter the Roman’, I hold that the list of names in the St. Malachy prophecies are akin to, if not exactly, those very names written in heaven.
Even Nostradamus spoke of ‘Peter the Roman’ in Century VII, #24.
The use of ‘the strong one’ in the quatrain refers to Daniel 7:7.
Jesus Christ’s resurrecting me is in His fulfillment of an agreement of contract law (Matthew 3:15) into which both He and I entered prior to my baptising Him.
Free Republic is in the 101-200 page of results.
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The reality of the future is not totally revealed to us, it is written, “eye hath not seen, nor ear heard of the wonders God has in store for us.”
As Christ had sent me to bear him witness, I now bear witness that HEAVEN IS GREAT!!!
The world is saved through the Blessed Virgin Mary’s Brown Scapular and Rosary as prophesied.
I normally use my surname, Edward Palamar, but I remain:
the resurrected John,
Prophet of the Most High,
whom Jesus Christ called the “Elias who was to come.”,
St. John the Baptist,
enjoying the rapture in the call of duty as Peter the Roman
The regular problem I find in explaining what is plain to me (private revelation) is that some others regard what I say as a claim, as if they are holding something of mine (as a cloak check) that I need to present proof in order to regain that something of mine. For anyone to be this way indicates they indeed do have or think they have something of mine, else they wouldn’t try to barter as such. Christ himself said, “An evil and wicked generation demands a sign.” In that regard, I could just as well keep my mouth shut. But I do rejoice.
I trust Jesus as God to know the better of His plans, especially when it comes to putting spirit in and out of men. Is not our breath the breath of God? I think so. Christ also said, “If you are prepared to receive it, he (John [the Baptist]) was the Elijah who was to come.” I
don’t think I was prepared to recieve it, but am capable now of understanding that.
God once took a man to heaven bodily, the prophet Elijah. As God appeared to Moses in the burning bush because to see God’s glory directly would have caused Moses to die, something happened to Elijah to prevent him from suffering a similar fate for many years even though it is recorded that he went to heaven in a whirlwind. Any time beyond 120 years would have been the normal end for Elijah. It
was part of God’s plan to bring Elijah back in spirit, not in the flesh, at least for a time.
The spirit of Elijah was put back into corruptable flesh and God had created a living soul. Christ died to save souls. The Father in heaven via the angel Gabriel gave the name “John” to that particular living soul.
“John” was not given a seperate breath but that of Elijah. But when Christ raises that soul of “John”, “John” is given a new course of both body and spirit, making “John” a living soul again.
In essence, I have been given a free ride. But such is the existence of any creature of God. “God blesses and curses whom He pleases.”
All living souls owe their existences to God, the Giver of Life. It is God who makes their souls alive. It is God’s prerogative to name and apportion spirit as He sees proper.
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