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Posted on 03/13/2005 4:30:08 PM PST by Quix

NOTE: THE FIRST article came via the GLADRAGS newsletter. I couldn't find it on the net. The second article came from his website at the Source URL.

A quartet of end times issues by Michael G. Mickey


Way to go, Wendy Kinnear!

Here in the end times, it's tempting to just sit back and watch the world spiral out of control, but Wendy Kinnear isn't that kind of Christian. Not at all!

Recently, as documented in an American Family Association article, Christian mom Wendy Kinnear prompted an entire California school district to begin promoting religious freedom among its 26,000 students.

That's right!

Wendy Kinnear stood up for the Lord - and made a difference!

What led to Wendy stepping up for the Lord? Wendy's heart was broken one day last year when she heard her first-grade daughter, Lauren, comment she could not pray at her Placentia elementary school. It's a comment many Christian parents have heard. Why?

Because, as Wendy Kinnear realized, children are beginning to think their faith isn't welcome, in any manner whatsoever, in public schools.

What did Wendy do, as a result of coming to that realization, that affected positive change in an entire school district? She addressed the Yorba Linda/Placentia school board to express her fears children in the school district were being led to question their religious liberties.

According to the article, Wendy left the school board meeting far from convinced she had made a convincing argument. Why? Because at the end of her speech, no one clapped, cheered, or offered her any encouragement whatsoever.

Why was Wendy's speech met with utter silence? Because Wendy's words had scored a direct hit on the school board's collective heart and broken it! Shortly after Wendy's speech, the school board responded by encouraging all of its schools to celebrate "Religious Freedom Day." Praise the Lord!

What can we learn from Wendy Kinnear? To stand up for what's right, even at the risk of walking away, as Wendy did, wondering if it was of any benefit whatsoever! We can take a stand for the Lord and, occasionally, even in this sin-ridden world, win!

Matthew 5:14-16: Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Has the unthinkable started to happen?

For some time now, we've been hearing that bird flu, if it should mutate to become a disease passable from human to human, could create a quick-spreading global pandemic, potentially resulting in millions upon millions of human deaths.

Has the unthinkable started to happen? While I pray not, there is definitely, as of today, cause for concern.

According to a Reuters report, a Vietnamese nurse who tended a bird flu patient with a colleague who has since tested positive for the deadly virus has been hospitalized after showing symptoms of the disease. Plainly spoken, two nurses who contracted the sickness contracted it while caring for one patient!

While it is entirely possible both of these nurses made errors that led to them becoming infected with bird flu, another possibility is the unthinkable has started to happen.

Matthew 24:7: For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Bird flu - an end times pestilence of the most frightening variety!

Is Israel heading for war with Syria?

A Middle East Newsline report suggests Israel's military is preparing for war with Syria, Hizbullah, and, quite possibly, Iran as a result of what the report calls an "emerging threat from Syria and Hizbullah over the next year."

Major Gen. Benny Gantz, chief of Israel's Northern Command, is quoted in the article as saying, "We might have to fight those countries, which could drive them back a dozen years. We can drive Lebanon and Syria 50 years back. It's an option."

I find Gantz' comments interesting on several fronts. Bible prophecy, as seen in Isaiah 17:1, seems to indicate Damascus, Syria is going to be utterly destroyed in the prophetic future - to the extent it will be taken from being a city.

Gantz is saying, as I read it, Israel can drive "those countries" back a dozen years OR drive them back 50 years. Interestingly, when the Gog-Magog invasion of Ezekiel 38-39 takes place, one nation which is currently stirring up trouble in the Middle East, namely Syria, is nowhere to be found among the list of nations aligned with Russia in attacking Israel.

Thought provoking, isn't it?

Why the sudden move?

According to a WorldNetDaily article, the United States has quietly approved a plan to relocate its consulate from the eastern section of Jerusalem to a western Jerusalem neighborhood, with construction of the new facility already beginning. What does this mean?

Quite possibly, it means the United States is looking ahead to a time when East Jerusalem will be in Palestinian hands!

Thought of the United States doing this, according to the article, initially started when the seven-year the Oslo peace process was moving forward and Israel had agreed to give the eastern section of Jerusalem to the PLO to create its future state's capital. Suddenly, at this moment when both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are somewhat dedicated to seeing peace efforts move forward, the United States, in my opinion, is making ready to move to the side of a divided Jerusalem it would be safest in calling home. God help us if this is true!

While there are many issues in our world today that seem to send mixed signals concerning how close we may be to the return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the one constant of late is the world's determination to divide Israel's covenant lands! I believe that trend is going to continue until, ultimately, the Antichrist of Daniel 9:26-27 finds his way into the spotlight of international diplomacy by confirming a seven-year peace covenant in the Middle East, setting the stage for the visible, physical, bodily return of Jesus Christ to take place.

Joel 3:2: I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Israel is God's prophetic timeclock. What does the timeclock say? As I look at it, it says to me, in no uncertain terms, Jesus Christ is coming ---- and soon! Mighty soon!




on: February 28, 2005, 08:31:58 AM

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What will the Quartet come up with next? by Michael G. Mickey


Tomorrow, on 3-1-05, the international Quartet of Russia, the United Nations, the United States, and the European Union will meet in London to discuss ongoing efforts to bring peace to the Middle East.

An article quotes the spokeswoman of Dr. Javier Solana, foreign policy chief of the European Union, as saying, in advance of the meeting, the Quartet aims to "give momentum to the peace process", just as the region is seeing important developments. What, if anything, will the Quartet come up with next to achieve that lofty goal? It's hard to say.

While no one can deny progress has seemingly been made in the troubled region, there was a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv on 2-25-05 which Israel is now suggesting shows Damascus, Syria's guilt, which Damascus, of course, is denying - in spite of the fact Islamic Jihad, being given safe harbor in Damascus, is proudly proclaiming its involvement in the matter.

Although no new initiatives are anticipated as a result of the Quartet's meeting, one thing the Quartet is eventually going to have to come up with, if it truly hopes to see peace come to the Middle East, as illustrated by the latest suicide bomber to strike in Israel, is a way to insure the two sides of the conflict, as well as outside influences like Islamic Jihad, the Iranians and the Syrians, don't do anything to sabotage the progress made along the way as was done in Tel Aviv, threatening what is most assuredly a fragile ceasefire between the long-standing rivals.

Left to their own devices, the Israelis and Palestinians are never going to live side by side in peace. We've seen enough stories on the news concerning these two parties to understand that. As such, third party involvement, on some level, is going to be a required element of any effective peace plan in the region - precisely what Bible prophecy envisions taking place in the future, when a seemingly effective seven-year peace plan will be confirmed by a leader of Roman descent "with many", as seen in Daniel 9:26-27.

As I've stated on many occasions in the past, I believe the Quartet could be representative of the "many" Daniel prophesied or, perhaps, a precursor to the "many" the Antichrist will confirm a covenant of peace in the Middle East with. I say that because Zechariah 12:2-3 makes it clear Jerusalem will be a cup of trembling "unto all the people round about" and a burdensome stone "for all people" in the last days. Friends, we're there! Not only are we there conditionally, the international community is unified in its desire to resolve the conflict, potentially paving the way for the Roman prince of Daniel 9:26 to rise to prominence on the world's diplomatic stage - an event which will be preceded by the Rapture of the Church.

What will the Quartet come up with next? Hopefully, tomorrow's meeting will yield some hints.

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The . . . curious folks . . . who insist that the Biblical prophecies about Israel all happened back in time . . . seem oblivious to the fact that Damascus is still with us and has been continuously inhabited through all recorded history of that region.

But it's appointment with oblivion will be kept . . . in our era. Stay tuned.

1 posted on 03/13/2005 4:30:11 PM PST by Quix
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OOOOOOOOOPPPS, I just discovered that I didn't save a copy of the AGGRESSIVE PRAY-ER'S PING LIST when I combined it for a certain msg with the DREAMS/VISIONS/END TIMES PING LIST. So, please let me know if you want on only one or the other.

Please let me know if you want on or off this ping list.

2 posted on 03/13/2005 4:34:44 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

I read the other day that Solarno is using what is called "Recommendation 666" in some form. I googled it and it is true.

3 posted on 03/13/2005 5:05:27 PM PST by queenkathy
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Chris Mulder (6 Jan 2005)
"RE: tsunami, the beast rises out of the waters "

Frank, thank you for reiterating the likely importance of this prophecy. We all know that natural disasters will continue to increase in both frequency and intensity as we near the end of the age, just as Yeshua HaMashiach said it would. But when considering this disaster in the context of this prophecy, there may be more to it then just one in a series of escalating disasters. This prophecy from Susan Cummings is striking in my opinion. The description of the tsunami in this prophecy is an exact description one would give based upon personal experience or by watching all the video recorded by various people who did experience it. The context of the prophecy itself appears to be more spiritual in nature, related to the rise of the antichrist, yet we cannot deny the prediction in the physical. It appears that this disaster may be a warning in the physical world of the soon rise of the antichrist. Moreover, this is not the only prophecy speaking of the soon rise of antichrist. There are several others that I have come across in the past several months.

To me, this is just further confirmation of what I see on the near horizon. Following is a re-post of some thoughts I have concerning 2005 and the many signs that are associated with this year. In it is a link to a previous timeline letter I posted which includes one of the other antichrist prophecies by Stephen Hanson. There are also links to an explanation of the 2005 signs, my thoughts about the political climate, and a scriptural view of the end of the age. Regardless of what ones specific expectations are, we must be cognizant of what the signs are, what the Spirit speaks to us, and what God says in His Word. May we all pray for greater understanding in these most important times.

"More Signs & 2005 Thoughts"

There are more interesting heavenly events connected with the signs of the October 10/27/04 eclipse which I pointed out in my Election Connections Follow Up letter, as if these eclipse signs were not striking enough! Click Here to read the follow up letter.

Last year, on 8/27/03 at 5:51 AM EDT, Mars came the closest to earth that it has come in 59,619 years. Keep in mind that the Hebrew/Biblical meaning of Mars is Michael the warrior angel, the personification of war, or war itself. Approximately a few hours, day, month and year later [minus leap day 2/29/2004], on 9/29/04 at 9:35 AM EDT, the asteroid Toutatis made it's closest approach to earth since the 12th century. This asteroid is named after the Celtic/Gallic war god. The time frame between these two close approaches of hours, day, month and year closely resemble a similar timeframe found in the bible. The only instance of this timeframe is found in Rev. 9:15 "So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind." [NKJV]. It is a part of the sixth trumpet. Here we have 2 celestial objects that represent war, with Mars also representing Michael, separated by a timeframe that represents judgment. Then a month later on 10/27/04 we had the amazing eclipse signs which also represent war, judgment, and Michael. I find this very interesting.

Then there are all the amazing signs of 2005 to consider. Click Here to read about these signs.

I also wrote of a possible timeline for the last 3 1/2 years of the 70 weeks [the great tribulation], which might run from spring 2006 through fall 2009. This timeline hypothesis can be read by clicking Here. As part of this hypothesis, I pointed out how scripture appears to be indicating that the covenant with many from Daniel chapter 9 could be made by Yeshua Himself, of which 3 1/2 years were completed at His first coming, with the balance to be completed at His second coming. Since then, several others have written letters expressing the same interpretation of this passage. I have also come across others who believe this as well. Studying this further, I am now of the opinion that it is in fact Yeshua HaMashiach that confirms the covenant for a 7. While this timeline could still be a possibility, there are indications that it might be sooner. Again, consider the signs and world events that just passed, and the signs that are to occur in 2005.

As I considered the possibility that the last 3 1/2 years before the end of the age might start as early as 2005, the following came into focus. On 2/23/05 [14th of Adar 1] there is an additional Purim known as Purim Katan. This minor Purim is only found in years when a second month of Adar is added, but it still represents being saved from the hands of Haman. It is interesting that 1260 days from 9/11/01 is 2/22/05, the day before Purim Katan. Moreover, from Purim Katan to the last day of Sukkot in 2008 [10/20/08] is 1335 days. If an earlier timeline proves to be true, I would expect something negative in Israel to occur related to the peace process [I.E. an opposite to what Purim represents] around Purim Katan, or perhaps Purim itself.

Then there were the letters from Miriam Howard about the Sabbatical cycles which led me to review some studying I had done on this in the past. These cycles are known as shmittahs. There are 2 generally accepted timelines of shmittah cycles, one of which is most likely correct. These two different timelines are only separated by one year. There is historical and biblical evidence that the 70 weeks of Daniel line up with the shmittah cycles that Israel should have been following at the time. If this is the case, then Yeshua's 3 1/2 years of ministry occurred during the first 3 1/2 years of a shmittah; the first half of the 70th week. Miriam reached this conclusion as well. One can then surmise that the completion of the 70th week would begin in the middle of a shmittah.

Based upon the two timelines of shmittah cycles, Yeshua would have begun His ministry in the fall of 27 AD or 28 AD depending upon which timeline is correct. His ministry would then have ended in the spring of 31 AD or 32 AD. Extending these shmittah cycles forward to our time results in shmittahs that would run either fall 2001 to fall 2008, or fall 2002 to fall 2009. Either one of these are very interesting. The spring 2006 to fall 2009 timeline I presented ends up lining up with the last 3 1/2 years of the 2002-2009 shmittah. I did not see this when I came up with this timeline hypothesis. But we must also consider that historically, there is more evidence that the earlier shmittah timeline is correct. With this in mind more interesting possibilities regarding 2005 come into focus.

Using the earlier shmittah timeline, Yeshua's 3 1/2 years of ministry would have ended at Passover 31 AD. Now apply the Hosea 6:2 prophesy "After two days He will revive us; On the third day He will raise us up, That we may live in His sight." [NKJV] The 2 days end up working out to approximately 1971.25 years [360 x 2000 = 720,000 / 365.25 = 1971.25]. Add this to 31 AD and it brings you to 2002, within the first year of this earlier shmittah cycle [fall 2001 to fall 2002]. This Hosea prophesy could be pointing to this earlier shmittah of 2001-2008. If you now apply the possibility that it will be the last 3 1/2 years of a shmittah to complete the 70th week, you would have a period that would run from spring 2005 to fall 2008. So besides looking at Purim, I would expect prophetic events around the spring feasts as well.

If this earlier shmittah is when the balance of the 3 1/2 years are completed, then 911 becomes even more pronounced. 911 is what caused the US to go to war to reshape the Middle East, and you know my thoughts about our involvement there. 911 was also 7 days before the beginning of the 2001-2008 shmittah if the earlier timeline is correct. Remember the 1260 & 1335 day counts I pointed out earlier?

So 2005 could be the year that the final 3 1/2 years of the 70 weeks commences. We may only have a little less then 4 years before the end of the age. See the picture of the end of the age Here. I guess we will know if this earlier timeline is correct by the end of spring.

YBIC, Chris aka Prophbuff

4 posted on 03/13/2005 5:06:22 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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Prophbuff (15 May 2004)
"Incredible Heavenly Signs in 2005"

Much has been said over the past several years regarding the sign of Revelation 12. There have been excellent articles explaining how this sign has appeared in the heavens, primarily on Sept. 12, 1999 which was the end of Rosh Hashanah of that year. Many of us, myself included, believe this was an awesome sign of how near the time of the end is. The following link is a great article by Greg Killian explaining this sign of 1999. It is also noteworthy that this sign has been appearing each fall from 1996 through 2000 due to the precession of the earth. The current trajectory of the moon through the heavens follows a lower, more WSW path then it did from 1996-2000 due to precession, so this sign no longer appears each fall.

Link to article:

Revelation 12:1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth. 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. 5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. [NKJV]

Here is a chart of the sign as it appeared on Sept. 12, 1999 from Jerusalem @ 6:40PM:

Virgo represents the woman about to give birth. She is clothed with the sun because it is at dusk. The moon represents the child. The moon is in a position of "birth" within Virgo. The next night the moon moves to a position higher and more WSW in the sky, so it is positioned "under her feet." The moon is moving towards Scorpio [representing the dragon/Satan] each successive evening. Scorpio is located where Mars is on the chart above. So the dragon is about to devour the child that was just born.

It seems like an amazing sign. That it occurred on Rosh Hashanah makes it very significant. But this is nothing in comparison to what is going to occur in 2005!

From the time of the Pentecost sign in the heavens this Shavuot, May 25-27, 2004, to the time of the start of the unbelievable 2005 sign in August, Jupiter will be approaching and enter Virgo from the direction of Leo. Jupiter just enters Virgo on 9/11/2004, but it will not be visible because it will be too close to the sun and the horizon at sunset as viewed from Jerusalem. 9/11 is an interesting date for this to happen I would say. Jupiter continues to travel deeper into Virgo from 9/11/2004 through Aug. 2005. See the following link illustrating the Shavuot 2004 sign:

Then, the awesome sign of 2005 begins at dusk Aug. 13, 2005. On this day, Jupiter "the man child / Messiah" will be in the center of Virgo, Virgo will be "clothed with the sun" because it is dusk, and the moon will be "under her feet." Venus will also just enter Virgo on this day. Here is a chart of the sign from Jerusalem @ 8:30PM:

This sign appearing after sunset on Aug. 13, 2005 is very significant because it occurs the 9th of Av which starts that very evening! Also keep in mind that the number 13 means rebellion. Jupiter [Hebrew: Tzedek] means the King star; the Lord our righteousness [I.E. the Messiah]. It is towards the "center or womb" of Virgo. Virgo [Hebrew: Bethulah] means the virgin; promised seed of the woman. Venus [Hebrew: Nogah] means the bright and morning star; it can represent either the Messiah or the bride depending on the context of surrounding celestial events. In this context it represents the Messiah as well.

This sign is a much better depiction of Revelation 12 then the event of Sept. 12, 1999 in my humble opinion. The 1999 event required the moon to represent the man child on the 12th, and then the next day later it had to be the moon under Virgo's feet. Moreover, the moon [Hebrew: Lavanah] really means Messianic hope rather than the Messiah Himself. On Aug. 13, 2005 we have a more complete picture of Rev. 12 on a significant date, the 9th of Av. Virgo is higher in the sky at dusk so this will be easier to see, and you can see Virgo's head. On Sept. 12, 1999 the Virgin's head was already descending below the horizon when the sign became visible in the evening sky. That this sign occurs on a 13 & the 9th of Av could be very significant. I will expand upon this later.

Incredibly, this is not the end of this celestial story. The context of this sign, and associated story of Rev. 12, continues from the 9th of Av 2005 to the end of Succoth 2005 & it's subsequent feasts. Jupiter and Venus continue to travel down through the body of the virgin Virgo through early September 2005, as visible in the early evening sky in Jerusalem. This represents the progression of the birthing process. On Sept. 1, 2005 there is a conjunction of Jupiter and Venus within Virgo; a strong sign of the Messiah in this continuing progression of the Revelation 12 story. Here is the chart of this event as seen from Jerusalem @ 8:10PM:

Then on Sept. 6-7, 2005 Venus representing the Messiah is "born." This is the day after Rosh Chodesh Elul; meaning the new moon starting the month of Elul. The actual sighting of the new moon will likely not be until the evening of either the 6th or 7th because the new moon will be too low on the horizon and too close to the sun at sundown to be visible on the actual Rosh Chodesh which is Sept. 4-5 on the calendar. This new moon will also be in conjunction with Venus and Jupiter within Virgo. The conjunction will be on opposite sides of Venus & Jupiter on these 2 days; the moon moving in the direction of birth through Virgo. Again, a strong sign of the "birth" of Messiah in our story. The following 2 charts show this "birth" of Venus as seen from Jerusalem @ 7:00PM each day:

Sept. 6, 2005:

Sept. 7, 2005:

While all these celestial signs are dominating the evening hours, another part of the story is being told in the predawn hours. From approximately Aug. 16, 2005 through Aug. 26, 2005 Mercury and Saturn will be visible in the ENE at early dawn. Specifically, on Aug. 20-21, 2005 there will be a conjunction of Mercury and Saturn in Cancer. Here is the chart of this event as seen from Jerusalem @ 5:00AM:

Saturn [Hebrew: Shabbtai] generally represents Satan. Mercury [Hebrew: Kokah] can represent the angel Gabriel; it also means the messenger. Cancer [Hebrew: Sartan] means the sheepfold; to bind together; Messiah's redeemed; His possessions held fast. This sign pictures the battle occurring over the redeemed between Satan and God and His angels. With Mercury representing both "the messenger" and the angel Gabriel; the angels warring with Satan in the heavens. If we look at the balance of Revelation 12, we see this being portrayed.

Revelation 12:6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days. 7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. [NKJV]

While the battle is over the fate of mankind in general, it is also focused on the redeemed in particular because they will be the overcomers by the blood of the Lamb. This sign clearly pictures this focused battle over these people, while at the same time, we have the developing representation of the rest of the story occurring at dusk at the same time! And the messenger star is visible at magnitude 0.7 [Mercury is not usually this bright]. A few days later on Aug. 25, there is a conjunction of the Moon and Mars [I.E. War] high in the night sky which further reinforces this sign of the battle.

Another very interesting fact about the time leading up to the beginning of these celestial signs is that on Nov. 5, 2004 Jupiter & Venus will be in conjunction in Virgo, and Mars will also be in Virgo at this time. This is one full revolution of Venus through the Mazzaroth prior to it's entering Virgo on the Aug. 13, 2005 sign presented above. It is also exactly 280 days/40 weeks prior to the Aug. 13, 2005 sign! The exact average gestation period for a baby. The only problem is that this Nov. 5, 2004 conjunction occurs in the middle of the day so it will not be visible, but it is interesting none the less.

Back to Dusk. From Sept.6-7, 2005 through approximately Sept. 25, Jupiter will also be moving towards the birthing position in Virgo, and will be just disappearing below the horizon when it becomes visible after sunset. Venus will be moving towards Scorpio as well. Here is the view of this on Sept. 25 from Jerusalem @ 6:10PM:

The Virgin "Israel" bringing forth the "Man Child" Yeshua, is for the purpose of redemption of his people, both old and new covenant. In the Sept 25 chart above, you will also see that Venus, also representing the Messiah Yeshua, is just entering into the constellation of Libra. Libra [Hebrew: Mozanaim] means the scales weighing; purchase; redemption. This sign represents the price which is deficient / verdict against man on the one side of the scale, and the price which covers on the other side of the scale showing His payment of redemption for mankind. The bringing forth of the man child was for the purpose of a final everlasting atonement for sin. This sign further picturing the story of Rev. 12 is awesome indeed, but it is not the only thing happening on this day! On this very night the moon will also be in Gemini. This will be visible from approximately midnight until dawn as the moon and Gemini transverse the night sky. The moon [Lavanah] represents messianic hope, while Gemini [Teomaim] the twins sometimes represents His two peoples, Israel and the church. This contextual meaning is gloriously harmonious with the dusk sign occurring the very same night. Simply incredible.

For the next several days, Virgo will be disappearing into the sunset horizon and will no longer be visible. This fulfills Rev.12:6 "Then the woman fled into the wilderness". Venus will continue to move directly towards the mouth of Scorpio. This moves us to the next amazing event in the heavens.

On Oct. 3, 2005, the day of the eve of Rosh Hashanah, there will be a solar eclipse as seen from Jerusalem. Although it is an annular eclipse, it's significance cannot be neglected. Especially since it occurs on a significant date and within the context of all the other signs of this season of warning. Here is a chart of this eclipse from Jerusalem @ 12:00 noon:

I think you will notice some striking features in this chart. This eclipse occurs within Virgo the virgin. Jupiter has now been "born". The woman is "still clothed with the sun" during this eclipse. Mercury has moved from Cancer and is conjoined to Jupiter in Virgo. Saturn and Venus have not yet moved from their current constellations on this day. This is yet another example of a heavenly fulfillment of the words sign of Rev. 12, within the context of another sign itself, an eclipse, on a very significant date the beginning of Rosh Hashanah.

If you are like me, I'll bet your saying 'NO WAY" right now, but your head is going to zoom because the signs are still not done!! A few days after this eclipse, on Oct. 7,2005 the moon and Venus will be in conjunction at the mouth of Scorpio. Here is the chart from Jerusalem @ 6:10PM:

This is a fulfillment of Rev. 12:4 "And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born." Scorpio/Scorpius [Hebrew: Akrab/Aqurav] means wounding him that cometh; the conflict. Is your head zooming now? There is more.

Each evening Venus will transverse Scorpio moving towards the feet of Ophiuchus. On Oct. 17-18, 2005 there is a conjunction of Mars and the Moon while Venus is about to move out of Scorpio. Oct. 17-18 is the start of Sukkoth! Again we there is a representation of conflict in a sign that is on a significant date in a season of significant signs and dates. Moreover, each evening during Sukkoth, Scorpio will be diving towards the earth at dusk, while at the same time Venus moves into Ophiuchus. Following is the chart for the last day of Sukkoth Oct. 24, 2005 @ 6:10PM:

This fulfills Rev. 12:9 "So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth." In this sign we also have Ophiuchus [the serpent holder] standing on Scorpio with Venus [Messiah] moving into Ophiuchus. Within this context, Ophiuchus represents Christ ultimately defeating Satan / Scorpio; and ruling in power with His enemies trampled under His feet. This is also harmonious with our Rev. 12 story.

And thus our great signs of the 2005 fall season have ended. In my humble opinion this is utterly unbelievable!!

Now I am going to speculate a little and come back to the point of the 9th of Av sign I put on hold earlier. I have recently written several letters explaining my current hypothesis that the final 7 years could run from Fall 2005 to Fall 2012. If this were to be correct, then these signs we just examined seem to point to the exact start of this period. The 9th of Av is the day of the destruction of the first and second temples, and other tragic events for Jews. If the confirming of the covenant were to occur during or at the conclusion of these signs, this could tie into the theme of the 9th of Av. Based upon my hypothesis, the 9th of Av is the very day that the Abomination of Desolation might occur 4 years later in 2009. The number 13 also relates to the rebellion of Israel by the act of entering into the covenant with death. Here is a link to my hypothesis for those how have not seen it yet:

Regardless of whether my hypothesis is correct or not, I think these are truly the most direct celestial signs of the times we will see to date. This find also confirms my conviction that we have yet a way to go before we see our Savior. I am relatively certain that there will be no rapture this spring, or this year at all. There is a good chance of major events in this world prior to the start the final years though. We must continue to keep our faith in Him and follow where He leads us. He will reveal to us what is happening according to His perfect timing. The signs in the heavens this spring and fall 2005 might be a part of this.

YBIC, Chris AKA Prophbuff

5 posted on 03/13/2005 5:07:02 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: queenkathy

What's the thing about? Purpose etc?

6 posted on 03/13/2005 5:08:12 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
Matthew 24:7: For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

It's all coming to pass before our very eyes!! It's so exciting to see these things happen exactly as the Bible said it would.

IF only the world would understand and turn from their wicked ways and accept God's ONLY plan of Salvation through his Son, Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, there are members of our own families and our friends who don't believe it will happen now. THAT is the saddest thing in my life, because I love all of them so much. I don't want anyone to perish without being saved. It breaks my heart. :(

7 posted on 03/13/2005 5:33:55 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: Quix

Thank you for the ping.

My cousin told me he is calling me during the coming week because he wants to discuss with me the end-times info I've been emailing him. {Said there was too much commotion with all the fam around to discuss it this wkd.)

Hmmmmm ... will report back as to how that phonecall goes.

Continuing to watch and pray,

8 posted on 03/13/2005 5:59:35 PM PST by JockoManning (
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To: NRA2BFree



9 posted on 03/13/2005 6:01:47 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: JockoManning

Wonderful. Congrats! pRAYERS FOR THAT!

10 posted on 03/13/2005 6:05:14 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

Bookmark this for later reading

11 posted on 03/13/2005 7:33:23 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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12 posted on 03/13/2005 7:55:00 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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The early Christians thought this too, until they were dying of old age and various believers decided they'd better write something down.

As for me, I'll continue to love God, fear Him as to try and not fear humanity so much and try to do good as best I can.

"...there's a special providence in the fall of a sparrow. If it be now, 'tis not to come; if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be not now, yet it will come: the readiness is all: since no man has aught of what he leaves, what is't to leave betimes? --Hamlet

13 posted on 03/13/2005 8:18:40 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!

14 posted on 03/13/2005 8:39:11 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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Hiya quix! I'm not sure, but I just might be one of those....'curious folks' mentioned :)

the Antichrist of Daniel 9:26-27 finds his way into the spotlight of international diplomacy by confirming a seven-year peace covenant in the Middle East

Dan 9: 26-27's "one week", to my reading of it anyway, is regarding the beginning of Christ's ministry, His crucifiction (the "cut off" part), and ending with the stoning of Stephen.

Well, there's 'always one', right? God bless.

15 posted on 03/14/2005 7:03:24 AM PST by 1john2 3and4
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To: Quix


Kind of worried about the bird flu. This could be ugly if it gets out of hand.

16 posted on 03/14/2005 8:50:24 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 1john2 3and4

I certainly don't pretend to have the 'weeks' stuff all figured out.

I'm just utterly convinced these are the end times and that Jesus is Coming back sooner than even a lot of Christians are near ready for.

17 posted on 03/14/2005 9:42:15 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: redgolum

Tricky stuff.

Can you imagine the time in hell of those guilty of plotting to worsen bio and other maladies upon 'innocents' of our era?

18 posted on 03/14/2005 9:43:47 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix; All


Jerusalem, Israel • October 3, 2005 • 12:01 PM


This will be so awesome that all Jews and others will see the hand of G-d in this.

This is especially so as the following day is the Feast of Trumpets which

is the Feast for which we do not know the day or the hour.


Jerusalem, Israel • October 3, 2005 • 12:01 PM

31°48’N 35°14’E, Time Zone GMT + 2.0 hr.

Sunrise 6:08 AM, Sunset 5:51 PM, Sideral Time 13:10:46


1          Sun      *ECLIPSE 2/4

2          Mercury          *ALIGNMENT

3          Venus  <planet>

4          Jupiter *ALIGNMENT

5          Saturn  <planet>

6          Pluto    <planet>

7          Moon  *NEW

8          Arcturus          BOÖTES / Herdsman

9          Vega    LYRA / Lyre

10        Capella            AURIGA / Charioteer

11        Procyon           CANIS MINOR / Lesser Dog

12        Spica   VIRGO / Virgin

13        Antares            SCORPIUS / Scorpion

14        Pollux  GEMINI / Twins

15        Deneb  CYGNUS / Swan

16        Regulus           LEO / Lion

17        Castor  GEMINI / Twins




Bless His Holy Name



19 posted on 03/14/2005 9:46:26 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: XeniaSt

Could you spell it out more clearly.

some of us are deficient in puzzle unraveling regardless of our extensive puzzle collections.


20 posted on 03/14/2005 10:18:19 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

Could you spell it out more clearly.


some of us are deficient in puzzle unraveling regardless of our extensive puzzle collections.




20 posted on 03/14/2005 11:18:19 AM MST by Quix


The Feast of Trumpets (it is called the Feast of Trumpets as trumpets or shofars

are sounded each day for a month leading up to the Feast Day)

or the civil name is Rosh Hashanah, for the day, is New Years day for the civil calendar.

Every Jew knows about Rosh Hashanah.

It is the day that is determined when three stars are seen in the evening after the new moon.

Jewish days begin a sundown( as outlined in Genesis).

For a solar eclipse to occur literally at noon the day

that will become the New Years at sundown is breathtaking to say he least.

This will be seen from G-d’s City: Jerusalem.


Over the last five years lunar eclipses have occurred during the other Feast of the L-rd.


This to a Jew (atheist or believer) will a clear sign from G-d!


B’shem Y’shua haMashiach


21 posted on 03/14/2005 10:50:58 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: Quix

p here is the url

22 posted on 03/14/2005 11:09:36 AM PST by queenkathy
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To: Quix

I still can't do that thing right. Hope you can figure it out. Anyways, it is what the EU is using as a "rule" book from what I can gather. I'll find out more info and get it to you.

23 posted on 03/14/2005 11:10:40 AM PST by queenkathy
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Is Rome reviving? - Hal Lindsey -

The year 2005 started the countdown toward a momentous event – the ratification of the new proposed European constitution.

What such mighty leaders as Charlemagne, Frederick the Great, Napoleon and Hitler couldn't do militarily, is being quietly achieved by economic alliances and the heady wine of ultimate economic and political power.

I saw this coming in 1969, as I discussed in my book, "The Late Great Planet Earth." I quoted former Secretary of State Dean Rusk who said in 1962:

Powerful forces are moving in the European community toward political integration as well. Survival and growth force the nations of Europe to forget their historic antagonisms and unite. Through the pooling of the resources and efforts a mighty new entity is growing out of the chaos left by national rivalries and world wars.

Now the instrument that can formally federate the European nations has been formulated. At first blush, this new constitution looks similar to the U.S. federal system, but the similarities are only superficial. The new E.U. constitution has none of the checks and balances built into the American system. The American system grants individual states certain rights that are beyond its ability to regulate.

The E.U. constitution would take most of the powers away from the member states and concentrate them in Brussels. The E.U. constitution creates an unelected president, foreign minister and diplomatic service, all currently held by the same individual under the authority of a Western European Union agreement titled, "Recommendation 666." (Isn't this number interesting? Coincidence? I don't think so.) And remember, it is the Western European Union – composed of the original 10 member nations – that holds the real power in the European Union. This is all prophetically significant.

The E.U. constitution will create a unique, pan-European legal system, a Europe-wide police and law enforcement infrastructure and an all-European military force. Two E.U. members are currently numbered among the five Permanent Members of the Security Council. The European constitution envisions a sixth seat for Europe.

When ratified, it will mean the end of the already tattered trans-Atlantic relationship with the United States, since an E.U. military alliance would cut across existing NATO lines, eliminating some obligations for NATO members and imposing new ones better suited to European requirements.

When the E.U. constitution is formally ratified, it will transform Europe from a single market alliance into a federal political union and will create an authoritarian superstate on a par with the United States virtually overnight.

As I said in "The Late Great Planet Earth," Europe will unite and become the mightiest power on earth. The United States must suddenly decline as a world power.

Now here is why I say this. The Prophet Daniel's seventh and eighth chapters have been called the greatest in the Bible. Chapter seven gives a prophetic outline of the four great world empires that would have authority over the entire earth until the Messiah comes and sets up God's kingdom. Each empire would destroy the succeeding one. In this chapter Daniel has a vision of four terrible beasts. The revealing angel interprets these: "The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth" (Daniel 7:17, NIV).

Daniel is especially curious about the Fourth Kingdom, because it takes a different form in the days just before the coming of the Messiah. The angel explained:

The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. The 10 horns are 10 kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. [Hebrew means a year, two years and half a year.]

– Daniel 7:23-25, NIV

Note that the "10 horns that symbolize 10 kings" come "from" or "out of" the remains of the Fourth Kingdom. The Fourth Kingdom is not destroyed as the first three were. As predicted, it remains in a mystery form until just before the coming of the Messiah to set up God's forever kingdom, which is the Fifth Kingdom.

Now who are the four world kingdoms?

Daniel receives the answer to that question two years after he received the revelation in chapter seven. It was in the third year of King Belshazzar of Babylon.

The symbols used in the first half of chapter eight are explained beginning in verse 20, "The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia." The vision showed that the "two horned ram" would suddenly destroy Babylon. This prophecy was received shortly before Media-Persia destroyed Babylon virtually overnight by diverting the Euphrates River that ran through the city. Their soldiers rushed under the great bronze gates that extended into the water once the river dried up. The walls of the City of Babylon were over 150 feet high and wide enough at the top for five chariots to run side by side. The city that was thought to be impregnable was overrun in a night – and God's prophets had predicted it.

Daniel predicts the Third Kingdom, symbolized by a two-horned shaggy goat, would destroy the Persian Empire through the genius of its first great king, "The shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes is the first king" (Daniel 8:21, NIV). This was a precise prophecy of the rise of Alexander the Great more than 200 years before his birth.

Daniel predicts that Alexander would spread his kingdom further than all before him. Incredibly, he predicts that Alexander would suddenly die at the height of his power and his kingdom would be divided among four of his people. When Alexander died, his last words in answer to the question "To whom do you will you kingdom" was, "Give it to the strong."

His four great generals – Ptolemy, Seleucus, Cassandar and Lysimachus – took it over, just as predicted.

The Fourth Kingdom was Rome. It took over all that was left of the Greek Empire long before the birth of Christ. It continued until it fell apart as a political kingdom around the end of the 5th century. However, the influence of this kingdom continued. Evidence of its existence and power are all over Europe, the Middle East and the Mediterranean world. Religiously, a remnant of Roman power continued mysteriously in the Roman Catholic Church.

Now, against all odds, 10 nations out of the ruins of the Roman culture and people have arisen as the real power behind the European Union. I believe they will become the power base through which a predicted leader will gain control over the whole world. The Bible calls him the "Antichrist."

I realize some will say this preposterous. But this prophecy has already been 85 percent literally fulfilled in history – and every time against seemingly impossible odds.

I believe we are witnesses to climactic events that will bring Jesus the Messiah back to earth. The most important question is: "Are you ready?"

24 posted on 03/14/2005 11:21:41 AM PST by queenkathy
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To: Quix

BTW, are you familiar with Phil Stone and his teaching. It is very interesting. He says the Bible is repeating itself one modern day for 1 ancient year. During the Clinton impeachment time we were going through Sodom and Gomorrah and so forth.

25 posted on 03/14/2005 11:24:23 AM PST by queenkathy
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To: onedoug
The early Christians thought this too, until they were dying of old age and various believers decided they'd better write something down.

Actually, in Biblical terms, we have been in the "end times" since the Day of Pentecost.

Jesus said there would be wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes, pestilences, and not to be troubled by them, and there has been. During the Black Plague, some people thought it was the end of the world. When the calendar turned over from 999 to 1000, there were people who thought it was the end of the world. The fact is, there have been wars, rumors of wars, diseases, plagues, earthquakes and such since sin came into the world. It is part of living in a cursed creation, and so it will be until Christ returns to judge the quick and the dead and create a new heavens and a new earth.

26 posted on 03/14/2005 12:49:36 PM PST by Joe.E.Sixpack
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To: Quix

Very interesting reading. I keep warning EVERYONE...Polictics and Religion crucifed Christ, both are anti-christ. The Beast is gov., the whore is religion. Faith and religion are two different things. We have past thru 2 ages and are in the 3rd. The anti-christ once WAS, is NOT, and is AGAIN. There are no more PROTESTANTS...they are gone....absorbed into the corrupt form of religion this world has...there is no one protesting the mother harlot anymore. "Come out of her my people!!" The next pope is the worst...!! He will come out of Africa and consume the minds of men!! He is a whole creature but the parts of many others of like kind. Wicked...and the world will love him so.

Beware oh man-kind of defending a "system" more than you will defend the one true God and His truth. You are up to your neck in deception and you REFUSE to have the eyes to see or the ears to hear...SOON that deception will consume you. Very SOON. It will be sweet in your mouth and sour in your belly. It will look so GOOD you will WANT to eat of it and it will destroy you.

27 posted on 03/14/2005 12:50:52 PM PST by BriarBey
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Plenty of truth in your post, imho.


28 posted on 03/14/2005 1:33:57 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: queenkathy

No. Hadn't heard of him or that idea.

Interesting. Thanks.

29 posted on 03/14/2005 1:34:51 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: queenkathy
I C. Thanks. Maybe this will work below for your link:


30 posted on 03/14/2005 1:36:48 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: XeniaSt

Impressive, fascinating. Thanks.

31 posted on 03/14/2005 1:38:36 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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I still respect Hal a lot--have met him. Helped to meet him in person. He's authentic.

I'm not convinced he's as absolutely right in all the details as he thinks he is.

But I think he has a lot more connections with many more people who know first hand, than I do, too.

Interesting times, for sure.

32 posted on 03/14/2005 1:43:41 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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I rather believe that Jesus died heartbroken that his role as "Messiah" - which term similarly described both David and Solomon while neither claimed divinity - did not lead to his either ridding Judaea of the Romans, nor to his anticipation of "rebuilding" The Temple.

I'd rather recall Jesus as a Jew, and rabbi, who may yet succeed in his task if Israel stands the test of time, in a way similar to how I believe we will have won the Vietnam war by winning the current one.

Yet it's difficult for me to view Paul as any more than a "Hellenizer" of a message which I don't feel Jesus would have understood, no less endorsed.

Though while I in no way would condemn a Christian for her/his beliefs by Deuteronomy 4:19 and Malachi 1:11, as I wrote in my earlier post, and yet fervantly believe, I'll continue to love God, fear Him as to try and not fear humanity so much and try to do good as best I can.

33 posted on 03/14/2005 7:09:27 PM PST by onedoug
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To: JockoManning


34 posted on 08/23/2005 8:37:53 PM PDT by JockoManning (
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