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Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life
Self | JMJ 31 March A.D. 2005 | Siobhan

Posted on 03/30/2005 10:07:06 PM PST by Siobhan

I address this to real Catholic Freepers, and I am happy to greet friendly Anglicans and Orthodox Freepers.

Terri Schindler's murder because of the decree of the State and the inaction of the State means our sister in Christ will likely die a martyr because of the Culture of Death.

If and when this premeditated murder is completed, I would like us all to rally faithful Catholics everywhere to call upon the Church at every level to acclaim Terri as

"Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life"

If in time, Holy Mother Church will remember the ancient custom and acclaim the martyred woman a Saint by virtue of her martyrdom -- all the better.


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"Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life"

Let not the defiled name of "Schiavo" live on in this, but let the most honored name of "Schindler" -- honoured because of another Schindler's bravery in the Second World War -- let her birth name "Schindler" be remembered for ever among us.

1 posted on 03/30/2005 10:07:06 PM PST by Siobhan
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To: sockmonkey; Pyro7480; NYer; Salvation; Askel5; Romulus; St. Johann Tetzel; ELS; AKA Elena; ...

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2 posted on 03/30/2005 10:09:52 PM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Barnacle; Patrick Madrid

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3 posted on 03/30/2005 10:10:51 PM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Siobhan

Terri Schiavo Before dehydration

God Bless you Terri in your hour of death

Let everyone who said your beautiful smile was fake be haunted by it for the rest of their days.

4 posted on 03/30/2005 10:11:48 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: gbcdoj; Steve0113; Lady In Blue; Litany

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5 posted on 03/30/2005 10:21:31 PM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Siobhan
The first saint that came to my mind in response is St. Maximilian Kolbe, who lived for more than two weeks after being sentenced to death by starvation, and only dying after receiving a lethal injection.


St. Maximilian Kolbe, pray for us!

Prayer for Those in Their Last Agony

Go forth, O Christian soul, out of this world, in the name of God the Father almighty, Who created thee; in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, Who suffered for thee; in the name of the Holy Ghost, Who sanctified thee; in the name of the holy and glorious Mary, Virgin and Mother of God; in the name of the Angels, Archangels, Thrones, and Dominations; Cherubim and Seraphim; in the name of Patriarchs and Prophets, of the holy Apostles and Evangelists, of the holy Martyrs, Confessors, Monks, and Hermits, of the holy Virgins, and of all the Saints of God; may thy place be this day in peace, and thine abode in holy Sion. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

O merciful and gracious God, O God, Who according to the multitude of Thy mercies blottest out the sins of such as repent, and graciously remittest the guilt of their past offenses, mercifully regard this Thy handmaid, Theresa Schindler, and grant her a full discharge from all her sins, who with a contrite heart most earnestly begs it of Thee. Renew, O merciful Father, whatever has been vitiated in her by human fraility, or by the frauds and deceits of the enemy; and associate her as a member of redemption to the unity of the body of the Church. Have compassion, O Lord on her sighs, have compassion on her tears; and admit her, who has no hope but in Thy mercy, to the sacrament of Thy reconciliation. Through Christ Our Lord. Amen....

St. Joseph, patron of the dying, and patron of a holy death, pray for us!

6 posted on 03/30/2005 10:31:29 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Siobhan

Excellent thing you are doing. God bless.


7 posted on 03/30/2005 10:35:44 PM PST by Lion in Winter (LIFE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...

Catholic ping, and BTTT!


8 posted on 03/30/2005 10:37:42 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: MarMema; Destro; The_Reader_David; wildandcrazyrussian

Please read.


9 posted on 03/30/2005 10:38:09 PM PST by Lion in Winter (LIFE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!)
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To: Siobhan
According to this link, St. Anthony of Padua, one of my favorite saints, is the patron for starving people.

St. Anthony of Padua, pray for us!

10 posted on 03/30/2005 10:42:23 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480
My hope in time is that Terri will be acclaimed the Martyr of the Gospel of Life, and that all of the aborted children will one day be seen as martyrs of the Culture of Death; then, like the Holy Innocents of Bethlehem, may they be likewise called the Holy Innocents of the Gospel of Life.

The opposition is to the Culture of Death and its black-flowering during the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st. But the emphasis must be on the victory of the Christ the Lord and King of the Universe and his Gospel of Life.

11 posted on 03/30/2005 10:53:21 PM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Pyro7480

Apologies for my poor typing and grammar in the last post. Trying to do this and hold a child at the same time. *smile*


12 posted on 03/30/2005 10:54:39 PM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Pyro7480; Siobhan
My patron saint, St. Anthony of Padua.

I do not think that any of us Catholics will forget Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo, ever.

She is a suffering soul who has taught us a great lesson and no suffering is meaningless... she has forced us to confront just how much we really do love our brothers and sisters. The line has been drawn and it transcends politics and even religion - it goes to what is written in your heart - some of us know why it is written in our hearts and some of us don't, but we know with certainty that no human being should be starved and dehydrated in order to cause their death.

13 posted on 03/30/2005 10:54:54 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Siobhan

I didn't see any. Then again, it is almost 2 am where I am (I should have been in bed a LOOONG time ago). Oh well...


14 posted on 03/30/2005 10:58:31 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Salvation

Ping to the West Coast...


15 posted on 03/30/2005 11:00:38 PM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Siobhan

An outstanding idea. Our priest talked about this on Good Friday too.


16 posted on 03/30/2005 11:08:59 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Siobhan
And Shindler it should be. Since Schiavo "moved on" with his life.

She will ALLWAYS be Terri Schindler to me.
17 posted on 03/30/2005 11:54:37 PM PST by lula (I keep my life support in the fridge)
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To: Siobhan
"Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life"

If it is the will of the Trinity it will come to pass.

May the truth of her murder be known, and the wrongdoers punished for their collusion and barbarism done in our name.

18 posted on 03/31/2005 1:12:59 AM PST by Robert Drobot (Da mihi virtutem contra hostes tuos.)
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To: Siobhan; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


19 posted on 03/31/2005 4:04:57 AM PST by NYer ("Thou hast made us for Thyself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee.")
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To: Siobhan
I thought very much the same thing all along.

Maybe this whole ordeal will spark soul real soul searching on this topic. Doubtful, but anything is possible.
20 posted on 03/31/2005 4:39:01 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: Siobhan; Pyro7480
A 'martyred' fellow freeper passed this quote to me that pretty much sums it all up...

Pope Saint Gregory VII:

"There are in the world thousands of men who risk death every day at the summons of their lords. Yet, when the interests of the King of Heaven, our Redeemer, are at stake, how many Christians shrink, not from death only, but even from the hatred of other men. And the few ? thanks be to God for those few ? who dare to resist the wicked openly, and to face death, are not only unsupported by their brethren, but are accused by them of imprudence, and indiscretion, and are treated as fools...."

May God have mercy on us all.

21 posted on 03/31/2005 6:01:17 AM PST by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: Siobhan

She has passed, shortly before 10 am EST. May God have mercy on her soul.


22 posted on 03/31/2005 7:06:54 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Siobhan

Terri is not a martyr, and cannot be.Martyrs die for the defense of the Catholic Fatih and knowingly,they will not offend God or break His commandments no matter how cruel the torments they face. Come come now ,don't go overboard.


23 posted on 03/31/2005 7:16:51 AM PST by Rosary (Pray the Rosary daily)
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To: Pyro7480

RESPONSORY FOR THE DEAD
V. Do not remember my sins O Lord.
R. When you come to judge the world by fire.
V. Direct my way in your sight, O Lord, my God.
R. When you come to judge the world by fire.
V. Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord, and let your perpetual light shine upon her.
R. When you come to judge the world by fire.
V. Lord, have mercy.
R. Christ, have mercy. Lord, have mercy.
Our Father...
V. And lead us not into temptation.
R. But deliver us from evil.
V. From the gates of hell.
R. Deliver her soul, O Lord.
V. May she rest in peace.
R. Amen.
V. Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come to you.
(A priest adds:)
V. The Lord be with you.
R. And also with you.
Let us pray.
Lord, welcome into your presence your daughter, Terri, whom you have called from this life. Release her from all her sins, bless her with eternal light and peace, raise her up to live for ever with all your saints in the glory of the resurrection. We ask this through Christ our Lord.
R. Amen.

Responsory for All the Faithful Departed.
V. Eternal rest grant unto her (them), O Lord.
R. And let the perpetual light shine upon her (them).
V May she (they) rest in peace.
R. Amen.
V. My her soul (their souls) and the souls of all the faithful departed through the mercy of God rest in peace.
R. Amen.

Prayer for the Faithful Departed
O gentlest Heart of Jesus, ever present in the Blessed Sacrament, ever consumed with burning love for the poor captive souls in Purgatory, have mercy on the soul of Thy servant, Terri. Be not severe in Thy judgment, but let some drops of Thy Precious Blood fall upon our beloved departed, and do Thou, O merciful Savior, send Thy angels to conduct the soul of Thy servant to a place of refreshment and peace. Amen.

(From Pontifical North American College Handbook of Prayer)


24 posted on 03/31/2005 7:56:22 AM PST by Theophane
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To: Pyro7480

Thank you for that link.


25 posted on 03/31/2005 8:02:53 AM PST by ELS
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To: Rosary
Use your Catholic brain. If you can't see that this is a martyrdom, you are as lost as Bishop Lynch.

Please get a new screen name so you don't bring dishonor on Our Lady when you are wrong, misguided, mistaken, or you encounter something you simply don't understand. The chances of that happening are in the same ball park with you being a defender of the faith.

26 posted on 03/31/2005 10:34:08 AM PST by Maeve (+Novena to St. Jude+)
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To: Siobhan; NYer
You are on target, my dearest mother, but it is wasted on FreeRepublic. There are a number of groups who are going to be working on opening her cause for canonization. I'll e-mail you.

And a hello to NYer.

27 posted on 03/31/2005 10:37:05 AM PST by Maeve (+Novena to St. Jude+)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

So where are you? I've been in Florida.


28 posted on 03/31/2005 10:42:38 AM PST by Maeve (+Novena to St. Jude+)
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To: Maeve
I planned to leave last Wednesday to drive down. Due to recent health problems, I was not able to make the drive alone. I begged several friends to help me make the trip. All of them had some reason they could not come.

I had my wife's blessing, even if I got arrested.

I'm feeling very bad that I didn't just make the trip alone. I'm sorry.

29 posted on 03/31/2005 10:45:55 AM PST by St. Johann Tetzel ("Vigilate et orate ut non intretis in tentationem.")
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Don't feel bad. I kept thinking I was going to run into you. I kept turning around, and I think, dear St. Johann, you were there in a spiritual way you cannot possibly imagine. Or maybe you can. Take good comfort in that. By our praying where we are the Lord unites us in the Communion of Saints in a wondrous way. We may feel alone, but we are not alone. We may feel we didn't do enough, but our prayers move mountains we may only learn about we the Lord draws us out of this world.


30 posted on 03/31/2005 10:52:13 AM PST by Maeve (+Novena to St. Jude+)
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To: Maeve

"when the Lord draw us..."


31 posted on 03/31/2005 10:53:34 AM PST by Maeve (+Novena to St. Jude+)
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To: Salvation

No matter what you think of the merits, would you ping your list...


32 posted on 03/31/2005 10:54:35 AM PST by Maeve (+Novena to St. Jude+)
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To: sockmonkey; Domestic Church
You're out there somewhere, and God bless you.

Time to sign off and out and back to children and Catholic action.

33 posted on 03/31/2005 10:55:41 AM PST by Maeve (+Novena to St. Jude+)
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To: Rosary

There is always room for 'the devil's advocate' in such questions, is there not? So there is room for your nay-saying.


34 posted on 03/31/2005 11:03:49 AM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Maeve

Thanks, Herself.


35 posted on 03/31/2005 11:04:49 AM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Rosary
The Guardian

Portuguese Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins, head of the Vatican's office for sainthood, told reporters that "an attack against life is an attack against God, who is the author of life."

Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.

36 posted on 03/31/2005 11:41:13 AM PST by Siobhan (Divine Mercy Chaplet)
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To: Rosary; Arthur McGowan
Terri is not a martyr, and cannot be.Martyrs die for the defense of the Catholic Fatih and knowingly,""""

Arthur McGowan has suggested otherwise, reminding us that the Holy Innocents are regarded as Martyrs.

37 posted on 03/31/2005 11:51:43 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Rosary
Thanks Rosary. I absolutely agree. I think we need to realize even though her death is a grave injustice, she may not be worthy of veneration.

Without her beatification or canonization, public veneration of Theresa Schindler is not permitted, but anyone can ask any deceased person they think is capable of prayer to God to pray for them. The Holy Innocents who were killed after Christ was born are a particular example.

I think prayers for the repose of her soul, the conversion of those culpable in her death, for our leaders in office for wisdom to change the laws and for healing of the needless rifts between those in common cause are quite appropriate.

St. Martin de Porres, OPN
38 posted on 03/31/2005 1:24:31 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Theophane
And the eloquent prayer from the 1928 Book of Common Prayer

INTO thy hands, O merciful Saviour, we commend the soul of thy servant, now departed from the body. Acknowledge, we humbly beseech thee, a sheep of thine own fold, a lamb of thine own flock, a sinner of thine own redeeming. Receive him into the arms of thy mercy, into the blessed rest of everlasting peace, and into the glorious company of the saints in light. Amen.

39 posted on 03/31/2005 1:26:13 PM PST by omega4412
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To: churchillbuff; Rosary
Holy Innocents are regarded as Martyrs

Correct, they died for Christ, but they are also not saints. It would be up to the Church to say if she died for Christ and would be regarded as a Martyr. I made the mention above.
40 posted on 03/31/2005 1:26:20 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Rosary; Siobhan
Terri is not a martyr, and cannot be.Martyrs die for the defense of the Catholic Fatih

Well said. Let's not diminish the sacrifice of all of those true martyrs who suffered so and ultimately gave their lives for the Faith. While Terri's murder is a very grievous offense against God, she is nor more a martyr than all of the innocent babies who are murdered in the womb.

Requiescat in pace, Terri.

41 posted on 03/31/2005 1:52:39 PM PST by Judica me
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To: omega4412

At Our Lady of Walsingham Catholic Church (Anglican Usage) this prayer is frequently said in connection with burials and requiems, and at other times, and is one of my all time favorites. It is the concluding collect for Good Friday from the 1979 BCP and the Book of Divine Worship (Hatchett says the 1979 BCP revisers found this in an old RC primer, or book of hours):

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, we pray you to set your passion, cross, and death between your judgment and
our souls, now and in the hour of our death. Give mercy and
grace to the living; pardon and rest to the dead; to your holy Church peace and concord; and to us sinners everlasting life and glory; for with the Father and the Holy Spirit you live and reign, one God, now and for ever. Amen."


42 posted on 03/31/2005 2:00:40 PM PST by Theophane
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To: Siobhan

I'm with you on this. I note that you dropped Schiavo. Thanks. Please note my sig. Maybe I'll change it to Martyr of the Gospel of Life but then it will get too long.


43 posted on 03/31/2005 2:18:11 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Maeve

Could you please include me on your list?


44 posted on 03/31/2005 2:20:47 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Theophane; Pyro7480; Siobhan

"O God of all spirits and flesh, Who has trodden down death, destroying the power of the devil, bestowing life on Your world, to the soul of Your servant Teresa departed this life, do You Yourself, O Lord, give rest in a place of light, in a place of green pasture, in a place of refreshment, from where pain and sorrow and mourning are fled away. Every sin by her committed in thought, word, or deed, do You as our good and loving God forgive, seeing that there is no man that shall live and sin not, for You alone are without sin: Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and Your law is truth."

Orthodox Funeral Service


45 posted on 03/31/2005 4:37:42 PM PST by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: Judica me
...she is nor more a martyr than all of the innocent babies who are murdered in the womb.

They too are martyrs. Read Aidan Nichols, OP, Christendom Awake for a primer in the chapter "Rescuing the Holy Innocents."

46 posted on 03/31/2005 5:26:20 PM PST by Siobhan (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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To: Dominick
Grateful for your post as it encourages me to press on with those who are working on promoting her cause all across the country. Of course, the encouragement from Cardinal Martins words today are most important in that regard.

Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.

47 posted on 03/31/2005 5:32:12 PM PST by Siobhan (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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To: Siobhan
Grateful for your post as it encourages me to press on with those who are working on promoting her cause all across the country

Good luck with that. I worry you may have difficulty with her life before her illness.
48 posted on 03/31/2005 5:35:16 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick

No thanks on the luck part. Don't believe in it, and I'm Irish. And, Dominick, she did not suffer from illness. She was disabled.


49 posted on 03/31/2005 5:39:48 PM PST by Siobhan (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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To: sandyeggo; Marcellinus

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50 posted on 03/31/2005 5:57:00 PM PST by Siobhan (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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