Posted on 04/01/2005 8:26:04 PM PST by Salvation
Wasn't there an old
prophecy that said this Pope
or the very next
would be the last Pope?
Does anyone remember
what I'm thinking of?
I've seen that here on FR a number of times but can't remember what it referred to.
If I am correct -- I think it is nine days of funerals.
I know, but when people consider The DaVinci Code to be a legitimate source of information, they get a little confused.
Not the last Pope but the next to last. I'll ping you with a link.
Not so much "the secrecy" although it is secret.
But more to remove all wordly interferences and thoughts from the minds and hearts of the Cardinals, thus letting the Holy Spirit be the lone guide of their choice.
Thank you. Makes sense.
Praying for this Pope and the next.
A note on this prophecy:
A lot of people put stock in it.
While others grant it no credibility at all.
Where is the answer? Probably somewhere in the middle.
Thanks for the prayers.
Here is the link to the complete text: http://www.societyholytrinity.org/Ecclesiastical%20Ballot.pdf.
I have participated in this process several times within this Society and for the election of a Synodical Bishop. It is profoundly moving.
Arinze has been playing a pretty serious political game lately. Numerous commentaries have taken note how he uses current events as a springboard to pronounce exhortations toward traditionalism, even though in the past he had been known to say things that would encourage liberation from those same traditional principles. They accuse him, therefore, to be "posturing for papal election."
Ratzinger on the other hand, is a much more frightening prospect. He seems to be the kind of man who would take inside opportunities to advance his personal agenda in this interim time of weakness of the Pope. The media reports that cardinals and bishops have been appointed in the last few days, and that the Pope has accepted the resignation of several. How can we be sure these are specifically the intention of the current Pope? We have to trust those who surround him.
We are trusting those who surround JPII with the full power of the Roman Pontiff. The Papal tradition is deeply rooted in Roman tradition. In ancient Rome, when the emperor died, his ring was removed and crushed so that nobody could use his ring to mark the seal ("bulla") of the deceased emperor on their own documents. That is still the tradition with popes. He dies, his ring is removed and crushed. The new pope will have a new ring that is custom made for him.
It is said that Caligula, after suffocating Tiberius with a pillow, stole the signet ring off his finger and announced that Tiberius had appointed him the next emperor!
The time ahead is indeed likely to be tumultuous. I pray the office of the Pope will be protected against fraudulent activity by those near him who, having been dissatisfied with his policies so far, would now attempt to advance their own agenda.
Examples:
Contraception, ordination of women, euthanasia, abortion, state sponsored "mercy killing," demythologising Scripture, elimination of miracles as a requirement for sainthood, and Modernism in the Church.
Some would argue that this Pope has advanced some of these issues and others, in the Church, instead of protecting the Church against them. This side of the debate seems to be ignored by the media, which has focused on the liberal side of the question.
St. Pio and St. Joseph, pray for the Pope in these, his apparently final hours.
Sadly, I do not trust Cardinal Sodano. I do not trust him at all. It is the interregnum that worries me the most.
The nine days, or novendiales of masses, is a tradition dating back to ancient Rome, just as is the crushing of the Papal ring. It was accorded to Roman citizens from antiquity.
However, in the past 40 years, as with many other things, there have been numerous changes to the ancient tradition.
Let us pray that by the intercession of St. Joseph, Padre Pio Santo and now dear Sr. Lucia of Fatima that what has been despoiled will be restored.
I think it is interesting that the silence that Sodano imposed on Sr. Lucy of Fatima is now being imposed on the Holy Father by God.
I think it is interesting that the worldwide attention on a corrupt Florida judicial system has not yet passed, while the same kind of controversy would be raised regarding the Vicar of Christ on earth.
The former events are separated by months, the latter, contemporaneous events, are separated only by blindness.
We can't.
I doubt that there will be any changes in this tradition.
Interesting. I hope they select someone from Africa, someone who can appreciate the need to stand against Islamic Jihad.
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