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An Extraordinary Prophecy (Hal Lindsey on the Pope)
hal lindsey oracle ^ | 4/09/2005 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:54 PM PDT by diverteach

Modern communication technology has helped make the Pope’s death an unparalleled event. The entire world has literally come together to praise this one man. I find that many sense that there will be some important and climactic consequences to follow the death of this Pope.

As I studied the many Bible prophecies of the Last Days, I found a most unusual extra-Biblical prophecy made by an Irish Catholic Bishop in the 12th Century. His name is St. Malachy. According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book Life of Saint Malachy, St. Malachy was known to have the gift of prophesy and even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. St. Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

According to his biographer, St. Malachy was visiting Rome in 1139 when he went into a trance and received a vision. Malachy wrote down this extraordinary vision in which he claims to have foreseen all of the Popes from the death of Innocent II until the destruction of the Church and the Return of Christ. He named exactly 112 Popes from that time until the end.

St. Malachy wrote a few prophetically descriptive words in Latin about each one of the Popes. He then gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II and it was deposited in the Vatican Archives where it was forgotten for several centuries. Then in 1590, it was rediscovered and published.

The interesting thing is that scholars have matched the brief 110 descriptive predictions with each of the 110 Popes and anti-Popes that there have been since Innocent II. Though they are a bit obscure, they have fit the general profile of each of the Popes.

Now these are in no way the same kind of predictions we find in the Bible....

(Excerpt) Read more at hallindseyoracle.com ...


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Interesting. Very very interesting!
1 posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:56 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: diverteach

I wonder what the 113th pope will have to say about all this!


2 posted on 04/10/2005 5:06:23 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: diverteach
Prophecy of St Malachy (with list of Popes)

The Prophecies of St. Malachy

3 posted on 04/10/2005 5:09:21 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: diverteach
Though they are a bit obscure, they have fit the general profile of each of the Popes.

Obscure? They're fantasy, with the most tenuous connection to the vast majority of Popes, especially those of the last 200 years.

4 posted on 04/10/2005 5:11:37 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: diverteach; Jeremiah Jr; Lijahsbubbe; MaggieMay; bearsgirl90
Pope No. 110 – John Paul II (1978-2005). The prophecy for the 110th Pope was “De Labore Solis”, which means ‘from the labor of the sun.’ John Paul II was born during an eclipse of the sun on May 8, 1920. As the sun rises out of the East, so he came to the Vatican from the east. Wherever on the earth the sun shines, he visited.

Hal is as "good" with the facts as usual, I see. If he had bothered to verify what he writes or pastes, he would have at least noticed the error in the date. Since I've seen this May 8th date in several articles, I suspect that it was originally a typo, and subsequent authors failed to correct it. The eclipse occurred on May 18th, 1920.

Mt. St. Helen's blew its top on JPII's 60th birthday.

5 posted on 04/10/2005 5:21:12 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal

There was a solar eclipse, partial in the US, the day he was buried.


6 posted on 04/10/2005 5:41:39 PM PDT by bigcat32
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To: diverteach

Interesting in that Lindsay must be getting quite desparate if he's started counting Popes to back up his theories!

The world must have gone quite mad - what kind of self-respecting Fundie gets into Pope counting?


7 posted on 04/10/2005 5:43:11 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: All
Hal Lindsey having a website called Oracle is like if I had a website called "the world's greatest figure skater .com"
8 posted on 04/10/2005 6:13:14 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Tantumergo; Jeremiah Jr; Lijahsbubbe; aculeus; Quix
Interesting in that Lindsay must be getting quite desparate if he's started counting Popes to back up his theories!

From the link:

Exactly 69 Sabbatical years of 360 days [or 173,880 days] later, Jesus was proclaimed the Son of David and Messiah. As predicted, He was rejected and had nothing. Then within a week after that, He was put to death.

Daniel predicted, “Know therefore and understand, that FROM the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem UNTIL Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times. And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off [put to death], but not for Himself; and the people of THE PRINCE WHO IS TO COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, and till the end of the war desolations are determined.”

Note that after the end of the 69th Sabbatical year, but before the beginning of the 70th sabbatical year, two very important historical events would occur. First, Messiah would be put to death, but not for Himself. Jesus was crucified within a week of His official presentation as Messiah. <<<

Hal is not good at math. The "know therefore and understand" appears to have sailed right over his head.

9 posted on 04/10/2005 6:13:54 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: AlaskaErik

Do you know that everytime someone scoffs at Bible Prophecy, they are fulfilling it?


10 posted on 04/10/2005 7:20:35 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: diverteach
it was deposited in the Vatican Archives where it was forgotten for several centuries. Then in 1590, it was rediscovered and published.

Now Available: an exciting new work from the authors of The Donation of Constatine

11 posted on 04/10/2005 7:55:44 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Thanks. Just gave a printed copy of that email to my Pastor this morning.

Good article, imho.


12 posted on 04/10/2005 8:53:58 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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Another typical Lindsey fleecing of the flock.

His eschatology has already been proven false. Jesus was supposed to return in 1981 according to him. He's a false prophet. Then he just keeps changing the date, and people are stupid enough to buy the books.

We are in the 'end times' ever since Jesus left us. There are no unfulfilled prophecies. We are to be ready for His Second Coming at any time.

Scripture says we are to avoid false prophets.


13 posted on 04/10/2005 9:53:55 PM PDT by gentlestrength (Study historical, systematic theology and avoid the Lindsey-type mistakes)
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To: Tantumergo

Apparently many of them.


14 posted on 04/11/2005 6:30:51 AM PDT by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: queenkathy
Do you know that everytime someone scoffs at Bible Prophecy, they are fulfilling it?

How is that? The fulfillment of a prophecy occurs when the event prophesied actually occurs. If you're pointing to the fact that most prophecies will be scoffed at, then that is just the fulfillment of one prophecy, not each one.

Besides, if it's a false prophecy, it can never be fulfilled.

15 posted on 04/11/2005 8:26:20 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (Former Embryo - Former Fetus - Recovering Sinner)
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To: queenkathy; AlaskaErik
Do you know that everytime someone scoffs at Bible Prophecy, they are fulfilling it?

Is scoffing at Hal the same as scoffing at Bible prophecy? If so, then Hal's a fraud and call me a scoffer.

16 posted on 04/11/2005 9:30:22 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Hal's 'prophesies' related to the former Soviet union in "The LAte Great Planet Earth" seem to have missed the mark. No reason to think this is any better.


17 posted on 04/11/2005 9:54:15 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Tantumergo

Lindsey has always admired JP2. He never condoned the Pope's devotion to Mary, but he truly liked him.


18 posted on 04/11/2005 12:41:46 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: topcat54

I don't think Lindsey has ever claimed to be a prophet. He's always offered his interpretation of scriptures, with which you can either agree or disagree.


19 posted on 04/11/2005 12:45:42 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: Thinkin' Gal

May 18, 1920 was the Pope's birthday, he was indeed born on the day of an eclipse, typographical error in the article notwithstanding.

Not that I completely buy "prophecy" of this nature..


20 posted on 04/11/2005 12:49:03 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Holy Spirit, help our Cardinals elect a good and holy Pope.)
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To: Fudd Fan
I don't think Lindsey has ever claimed to be a prophet. He's always offered his interpretation of scriptures, with which you can either agree or disagree.

But he does claim to be an "oracle".

Hal has always been careful to weasel-word his comments on end-times events.

"What generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs -- chief among them the rebirth of Israel. A generation in the Bible is something like forty years. If this is a correct deduction, then within forty years or so of 1948, all these things could take place. Many scholars who have studied Bible prophecy all their lives believe that this is so." (The Late Great Planet Earth, p. 54)

"The decade of the 1980’s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it." (The 1980’s: Countdown to Armageddon, p. 8)

More often than not he has been wrong with his "suggestions" on the unfolding of events.

21 posted on 04/11/2005 1:02:15 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: asformeandformyhouse

Because the Bible teaches that in the last days there will be scoffers and mockers of the Word. They will say there is no God, or that God will not come because from generation to generation they have looked for His return and He has not returned yet. So therefore, everytime someone says these prophecies are wrong and God will not return, then they are saying we are in the last days and fullfilling that.


22 posted on 04/11/2005 2:40:21 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: topcat54
"The decade of the 1980’s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it." (The 1980’s: Countdown to Armageddon, p. 8)

And you don't think the decade of the 80's was the last of history as we knew it? Don't you think things have gone downhill in the 90's...I sure wish for the good old days.

23 posted on 04/11/2005 2:43:16 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: gentlestrength

Another typical Lindsey fleecing of the flock.

His eschatology has already been proven false. Jesus was supposed to return in 1981 according to him. He's a false prophet. Then he just keeps changing the date, and people are stupid enough to buy the books.



Hal has never proclaimed to be a prophet, nor did he ever predict a date when Jesus would return. He has, however, awakened many sleepers of the general time frame, which centers around the rebirth of Israel.


24 posted on 04/11/2005 3:41:47 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: topcat54

I don't know anyone who gets it all right in the Biblical prophecy arena.

But I've met Hal. He's an authentic Christian Brother with a heart for God and for God's Word. I respect him. I respect his perspective though I certainly don't agree with all his conjectures and opinions. I certainly respect his motivation.

I don't know of a single fraudlant thing about him.


25 posted on 04/11/2005 4:13:10 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: connectthedots; topcat54

I think the jury is still out on a number of his conjectures.

BTW, he has never claimed to be a prophet.

He's merely a researcher with some good connections.


26 posted on 04/11/2005 4:14:15 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Fudd Fan

Quite so.

He's merely a student of Scripture and a researcher. Now, he's acquired a lot of great connections and sources to add to his considerable study on his own.


27 posted on 04/11/2005 4:15:29 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: topcat54

No, he does NOT claim to be an orcale in your meaning of the word. Sheesh.

A generation could well mean that as long as one person is alive that saw Israel become a nation again in a day in 1948 precisely as Scripture indicated . . . and that one person was alive to see the related Biblical prophecies fulfilled, that generation Scripture would be fulfilled.


28 posted on 04/11/2005 4:17:33 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: queenkathy

I much agree with you.

And such a stance is standard with the knee-jerk naysayers hereon.


29 posted on 04/11/2005 4:18:43 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Daisy4

Well said.

Billy Graham once speculated that he didn't see how Jesus could return later than 1975.

Lots of our daily conjectures are wrong.

The knee-jerk naysayers will be very painfully wrong wholesale in coming months and years.


30 posted on 04/11/2005 4:20:14 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
I think the jury is still out on a number of his conjectures. BTW, he has never claimed to be a prophet. He's merely a researcher with some good connections.

Conjectures? More like WAGs

31 posted on 04/11/2005 4:21:17 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: diverteach

You can't lose credibility faster than those four little words: "written by Hal Lindsey." ;-)


32 posted on 04/11/2005 4:21:40 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: diverteach

"The interesting thing is that scholars have matched the brief 110 descriptive predictions with each of the 110 Popes and anti-Popes that there have been since Innocent II."

The above statement is false.

I've read all of the papal prophecies by Malachy and he didn't predict anything.

The author of this drivel is another charlatan, like all the rest.


33 posted on 04/11/2005 4:27:04 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: mjtobias

Spirit Daily
http://www.spiritdaily.org/New-world-order/StMalachy.htm
St. Malachy's Alleged Prophecy: Did He Predict The Last Sequence Of Popes?

By Michael H. Brown

Occasionally we're asked about prophecies that have to do with the next pope or the next sequence of popes. Our advice is to be careful characterizing the successor to John Paul II: the cardinals have free will, and that free will determine who serves next. Those who preordain the next pope as an "anti-pope" must be careful that we are not besmirching a good and possibly even great pontiff; this can be very dangerous. As for prophecy, the most famous was that of St. Malachy O'Morgair, the 12-century archbishop of Armagh, Ireland. Tradition has it that when he visited Rome in 1139, Malachy was granted a vision of all the popes of the future, each of whom he described in symbolic Latin. He was said to have given this list to Pope Innocent II, and little more was heard until 1590, when a Benedictine monk, Dom Arnold de Wyon, ignited controversy after discovering the list in the Vatican archives.

Those who believe in this prophecy (and there is controversy over the authenticity of such a list to start with) argue that the Latin utterances fit all the popes since 1590. For example, according to a book called Prophecy For Today, St. Malachy's list described a pope later identified as Leo XIII with the words lumen in caelo (light in the heavens), and in fact that pope's coat of arms included a shooting star. Benedict XV was supposedly religio depopulata -- "religion devastated" (he served during World War I); John XXIII, who had served in the port city of Venice, was pastor et nauta ("shepherd and sailor"); and Paul VI was flos florum, or flower of flowers, and his coat of arms indeed displayed the fleur-de-lis (a pattern of flowers). Pope John Paul I was depicted as de medietate lunae, which means "from half of the moon -- and the first two letters of his family name, Luciani, form half of the word "luna," while the current pope, John Paul II was de labore solis, from the labor of the sun (with no clear explanation, although perhaps there is a connection in that he was born the year of an eclipse, and also: his working devotion to the "woman clothed with the sun").

That leaves two popes on St. Malachy's alleged list. One was described as De gloria olivae (from the glory of the olive) and the last as Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman). It is Peter the Roman who is said to reign during tribulations that will include the destruction of Rome.

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Looks like Hal has done his research.


34 posted on 04/11/2005 4:39:27 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: Quix
Billy Graham once speculated that he didn't see how Jesus could return later than 1975.

Smart dude! Unlike those who sell their earthly possessions and wait at the top of some hill, Billy left himself an out. In 1976 all he had to do was say that God works in mysterious ways that a mere mortal cannot understand. Those people at the top of the hill had to admit they were wrong, or at least have others know they were wrong.

35 posted on 04/11/2005 4:52:05 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: queenkathy
Do you know that everytime someone scoffs at Bible Prophecy, they are fulfilling it?

Guess I've done a lot of fulfilling over the years!

36 posted on 04/11/2005 4:53:39 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik

Certainly Billy made clear it was mere speculation. And, it was really a commentary on the slide downhill of our culture and the world in general.

Consider how much further down that hill we've slid since THEN!


37 posted on 04/11/2005 5:06:33 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: queenkathy
1. St. Malachy is not "Bible Prophecy," so I'll scoff whenever I want.

2. Do not make the mistake of confusing my disdain for dispensational premillenialism, a system invented in the 18th century using dubious exegesis, as "scoffing Bible prophecy." Just because I think the pretrib rapture is based more on wishful thinking than sound Biblical exegesis doesn't make me a scoffer of "Bible prophecy."

3. Lindsey, LaHaye et al. deserve to be scoffed. They've been so wrong so many times, it's not funny.

38 posted on 04/11/2005 5:25:55 PM PDT by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: Daisy4

"St. Malachy's Alleged Prophecy: Did He Predict The Last Sequence Of Popes?"

Answ: NO.

"Looks like Hal has done his research."

Looks like another modern-day Nostryl.


39 posted on 04/11/2005 5:28:16 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: diverteach
I don't buy much of this "prophecy" crap...........

I'll start to take it seriously when anyone accurately predicts the "superlotto" numbers.

Having stated my position, I would like to say that I enjoyed Hal Lindsey very much on his hit sitcom from the '70s "Barney Miller"
40 posted on 04/11/2005 5:31:15 PM PDT by WhiteGuy ("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH </sarcasm>)
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To: jude24

True St. Malachy may not be prophecy but Hal Lindsey is great and if he's right and you're all wrong....well, time will tell won't it. I personally love him. Does that make me bad? Nevermind no need to upset my lovely day. Let me live in a delusional world. thanks. BTW, you guys are awfully tough on a man of God aren't you?


41 posted on 04/11/2005 5:50:04 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: mjtobias

"St. Malachy's Alleged Prophecy: Did He Predict The Last Sequence Of Popes?"

Answ: NO.

"Looks like Hal has done his research."

Looks like another modern-day Nostryl.



Could you please share your information regarding St. Malachy's prophecies with a link? You claimed you have read them all.

Looks like this site with all the prophecies of St. Malechy is wrong, then? http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

I guess Hal was mis -informed then, wouldn't you say? Now all these sites say the same thing, so if you could give us a site that says something different, then you can back up you claim.

All I am saying is Hal has done his research in the matter, and it has been back up by sources. No one is saying the prophecies are true, not even Hal. If you can come up with another source to prove Hal's research is not accurate, let us see it.




42 posted on 04/11/2005 5:53:03 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: queenkathy
BTW, you guys are awfully tough on a man of God aren't you?

Men of God do not make false prophecies.. In the Old Covenant, false prophets were stoned. In the New, they should be ostracized.

Go to a library, and get Late Great Planet Earth. See how, because of his expertise as a Bible teacher, he thought in the 1970's the Soviet Union would ally with Libya, swoop in, take over Israel, and get their butts handed to them. When Y2K happened, he was at the fore of the "end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it" types. Both were grand fizzles. After either, he should have quietly stepped aside, never to speculate prophetically again.

If you want to listen to a riverboat pilot without a college degree, be my guest. He doesn't have the expertise in Biblical exegesis to know what he's talking about. But understand, those of us who know anything about historical theology only snicker when presented with Hal Lindsey's attempts to peddle his scaremongering.

43 posted on 04/11/2005 5:56:16 PM PDT by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: Daisy4

"I guess Hal was mis -informed then, wouldn't you say?"

No, this guy is not misinformed, he, and people like him, are dishonest in that they intentionally misleads people so they can sell his videos, books and various assorted trashy parapernalia.

"Now all these sites say the same thing, so if you could give us a site that says something different, then you can back up you claim."

If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing.

I see you're not well informed. I'm not gonna do the search for you. If you wish to know more, do the search yourself.


44 posted on 04/11/2005 6:14:17 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: Tantumergo
Interesting in that Lindsay must be getting quite desparate if he's started counting Popes to back up his theories!

Not surprising really. Hal Lindsey is a sophist, and will try to sell most anything. After all, he has his third, younger wife to keep in style, as well as the other first two.

As you have demised, I am no Hal Lindsey fan. Not even close.

45 posted on 04/11/2005 6:15:44 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: gentlestrength
Another typical Lindsey fleecing of the flock.

His eschatology has already been proven false. Jesus was supposed to return in 1981 according to him. He's a false prophet. Then he just keeps changing the date, and people are stupid enough to buy the books.

We are in the 'end times' ever since Jesus left us. There are no unfulfilled prophecies. We are to be ready for His Second Coming at any time.

Scripture says we are to avoid false prophets.

Well said.

46 posted on 04/11/2005 6:19:02 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: jude24

WEll, we will respectfully disagree then. I think Hal only speculates on what he thinks MIGHT happen. He doesn't say something for sure will definitly happen. IMHO..I read his book and get his Prophecy Updates daily and I don't take anything anyone says along these lines as definite. But there is no reason to bash him. One thing about Prophecy...it either will or will not happen. But the Bible says there is a crown ready for those who look for the return of the Lord. Hey I can use all the help I can get.


47 posted on 04/11/2005 6:21:28 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: topcat54
More often than not he has been wrong with his "suggestions" on the unfolding of events.

But as long as Lindsey can keep changing the predictions, he keeps the hook set and the books rolling off the press to a duped audience.

48 posted on 04/11/2005 6:21:46 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: queenkathy
Because the Bible teaches that in the last days there will be scoffers and mockers of the Word.

No one is scoffing or mocking God's Word, or the Return of Christ.

We scoff at Hal Lindsey's scriptorture, eisegesis and failed "oracles".

49 posted on 04/11/2005 6:23:45 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: mjtobias

"No, this guy is not misinformed, he, and people like him, are dishonest in that they intentionally misleads people so they can sell his videos, books and various assorted trashy parapernalia"



The last link I provided was from a catholic site, which wrote the same thing Hal wrote in his article. Are they wrong, too?


"I see you're not well informed. I'm not gonna do the search for you. If you wish to know more, do the search yourself"

I already did a search and they all say the same thing, and you cannot back up your claim except with a rant.


50 posted on 04/11/2005 6:25:30 PM PDT by Daisy4
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