Posted on 04/14/2005 7:15:40 PM PDT by Destro
Mel may put Pope on film
15apr05
MEL Gibson is reportedly set to turn Pope John Paul II's story into a Hollywood movie.
Gibson has already filmed the ending to the movie. He also reportedly despatched a production crew to Rome to film the pope's funeral.
Gibson, a devout Catholic, last year enjoyed one of Hollywood's biggest box-office hits with The Passion of the Christ.
It broke the US five-day box office record held by The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King when it made $84 million.
If he does it, it's for the money. He did not respect JPII.
I have taken Mel's movies to taks before - all his history based movies from the Patriot to Braveheart to The Passion were flawed histories (which is a sin to history buffs).
I have taken Mel's movies to "task"
Mel denied this actually. Says it's not true.
Wellllll....You're new.
I am curious. Could you give me the title of an unflawed history film?
So you witnessed the Passion?
Please, tell us "the other side of the story".
How long does one have to be posting on Freerepublic before he can post his own opinions?
Just observing. In forum is interesting...
The following scenes were not in the New Testament account and thus not accurate:
* In the garden of Gethsemane, while the female devil is tempting Jesus, he prays to the Father things such as, “Father defend me; save me from my attackers; shelter me from Satan.”
* The soldiers begin beating Jesus even in the garden of Gethsemane.
* As they are escorting Jesus after his arrest, the soldiers throw Jesus off of a bridge by massive chains; he falls onto the rocky ground below and is then brutally yanked back up again. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “I saw our Lord fall twice before he reached the bridge, and these falls were caused entirely by the barbarous manner in which the soldiers dragged him; but when they were half over the bridge they gave full vent to their brutal inclinations, and struck Jesus with such violence that they threw him off the bridge into the water.”)
* Jesus confronts Judas after his arrest when he is hung off of the bridge. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.)
* Jesus is imprisoned in a room under the temple.
* Herod calls Jesus a fool and demands that he be given the homage of a fool. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “But he spoke in the most contemptuous manner to Jesus, and turning to the guards and servants who surrounded him, and who were about two hundred in number, said: ‘Take away this fool, and pay him that homage which is his due; he is mad, rather than guilty of any crime.’”)
* The Roman soldiers call Jesus “King of worms” and “wormy king.”
* The soldiers hammer the crown down on Jesus’ head, but the Bible says nothing about this.
* Simon, who carries Jesus’ cross, at first is reluctant, expressing great disdain toward Jesus, but afterwards he has a change of heart and confronts the Romans in Jesus’ defense. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.)
* After Jesus’ first hand is nailed to the cross, his other arm is stretched out violently to reach the hole that had been drilled for the second nail. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “When the executioners had nailed the right hand of our Lord, they perceived that his left hand did not reach the hole they had bored to receive the nail, therefore they tied ropes to his left arm, and having steadied their feet against the cross, pulled the left hand violently until it reached the place prepared for it. This dreadful process caused our Lord indescribable agony, his breast heaved, and his legs were quite contracted.”)
* After Jesus is nailed to the cross, it is raised, turned over and dropped face down. That would have killed him. Then they turn it over and drop it back down again. This would have likely broken the back of a healthy man, let alone one who had his back flailed with that cat.
* A crow pokes out the eye of the unrepentant thief on the cross. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.)
* The names of the thieves on the cross are said to be Gesmes and Dismas.
* Satan tempts Jesus in Gethsemane. The devil offers many temptations. In one of those the devil asks Jesus, “Do you really believe one man can carry this burden? ...saving their souls is too costly?” (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.) According to the Bible, the only time that Jesus was tempted by the devil was at the beginning of his ministry.
* After Judas betrays Jesus, he goes out into the streets of Jerusalem. As he is sitting alone, two children come to ask him if he is okay. He tells them to go away. They start mocking him, and their faces turn into hideous demon-like faces. They start tormenting and biting him. One of them tears flesh from Judas’ hand with his teeth! They chase him out into the desert when he eventually hangs himself. Thus Judas is pursued to his death by demonic children! (This is from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “I beheld the traitor, Judas Iscariot, wandering about, alone, and a prey to the tortures of his guilty conscience; he feared even his own shadow, and was followed by many devils, who endeavored to turn his feelings of remorse into black despair.”) * The whipping depicted in the movie is contrary to the Bible. In the movie Jesus is beaten two separate times with 39 lashes each, first on the back, and then on the front, and the soldiers continue to beat him as they walk to the cross. The Bible says only that he was scourged one time. (The visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich contain lengthy detailed descriptions of Jesus’ whippings; i.e., “Two fresh executioners took the places of the last mentioned, who were beginning to flag; their scourges were composed of small chains, or straps covered with iron hooks, which penetrated to the bone, and tore off large pieces of flesh at every blow. What word, alas! could describe this terrible--this heartrending scene! The cruelty of these barbarians was nevertheless not yet satiated; they untied Jesus, and again fastened him up with his back turned towards the pillar. ... The body of our Lord was perfectly torn to shreds.”)
* Jesus says, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do” before the cross is lifted up.
Had enough?
The following scenes were not in the New Testament account and thus not accurate:
* In the garden of Gethsemane, while the female devil is tempting Jesus, he prays to the Father things such as, “Father defend me; save me from my attackers; shelter me from Satan.”
* The soldiers begin beating Jesus even in the garden of Gethsemane.
* As they are escorting Jesus after his arrest, the soldiers throw Jesus off of a bridge by massive chains; he falls onto the rocky ground below and is then brutally yanked back up again. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “I saw our Lord fall twice before he reached the bridge, and these falls were caused entirely by the barbarous manner in which the soldiers dragged him; but when they were half over the bridge they gave full vent to their brutal inclinations, and struck Jesus with such violence that they threw him off the bridge into the water.”)
* Jesus confronts Judas after his arrest when he is hung off of the bridge. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.)
* Jesus is imprisoned in a room under the temple.
* Herod calls Jesus a fool and demands that he be given the homage of a fool. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “But he spoke in the most contemptuous manner to Jesus, and turning to the guards and servants who surrounded him, and who were about two hundred in number, said: ‘Take away this fool, and pay him that homage which is his due; he is mad, rather than guilty of any crime.’”)
* The Roman soldiers call Jesus “King of worms” and “wormy king.”
* The soldiers hammer the crown down on Jesus’ head, but the Bible says nothing about this.
* Simon, who carries Jesus’ cross, at first is reluctant, expressing great disdain toward Jesus, but afterwards he has a change of heart and confronts the Romans in Jesus’ defense. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.)
* After Jesus’ first hand is nailed to the cross, his other arm is stretched out violently to reach the hole that had been drilled for the second nail. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “When the executioners had nailed the right hand of our Lord, they perceived that his left hand did not reach the hole they had bored to receive the nail, therefore they tied ropes to his left arm, and having steadied their feet against the cross, pulled the left hand violently until it reached the place prepared for it. This dreadful process caused our Lord indescribable agony, his breast heaved, and his legs were quite contracted.”)
* After Jesus is nailed to the cross, it is raised, turned over and dropped face down. That would have killed him. Then they turn it over and drop it back down again. This would have likely broken the back of a healthy man, let alone one who had his back flailed with that cat.
* A crow pokes out the eye of the unrepentant thief on the cross. (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.)
* The names of the thieves on the cross are said to be Gesmes and Dismas.
* Satan tempts Jesus in Gethsemane. The devil offers many temptations. In one of those the devil asks Jesus, “Do you really believe one man can carry this burden? ...saving their souls is too costly?” (Gibson got this from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich.) According to the Bible, the only time that Jesus was tempted by the devil was at the beginning of his ministry.
* After Judas betrays Jesus, he goes out into the streets of Jerusalem. As he is sitting alone, two children come to ask him if he is okay. He tells them to go away. They start mocking him, and their faces turn into hideous demon-like faces. They start tormenting and biting him. One of them tears flesh from Judas’ hand with his teeth! They chase him out into the desert when he eventually hangs himself. Thus Judas is pursued to his death by demonic children! (This is from the visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich. “I beheld the traitor, Judas Iscariot, wandering about, alone, and a prey to the tortures of his guilty conscience; he feared even his own shadow, and was followed by many devils, who endeavored to turn his feelings of remorse into black despair.”) * The whipping depicted in the movie is contrary to the Bible. In the movie Jesus is beaten two separate times with 39 lashes each, first on the back, and then on the front, and the soldiers continue to beat him as they walk to the cross. The Bible says only that he was scourged one time. (The visions of Catholic mystic Anne-Catherine Emmerich contain lengthy detailed descriptions of Jesus’ whippings; i.e., “Two fresh executioners took the places of the last mentioned, who were beginning to flag; their scourges were composed of small chains, or straps covered with iron hooks, which penetrated to the bone, and tore off large pieces of flesh at every blow. What word, alas! could describe this terrible--this heartrending scene! The cruelty of these barbarians was nevertheless not yet satiated; they untied Jesus, and again fastened him up with his back turned towards the pillar. ... The body of our Lord was perfectly torn to shreds.”)
* Jesus says, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do” before the cross is lifted up.
Had enough?
"But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself. I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." John 21:25
Gibson sold the Passion as an accurate historical work - Billy made no such claim.
"And all the temptation being ended, the devil departed from him for a time." (Luke 4:13) Sounds like he was going to come back.
Pontius Pilot would not have given commands in Greek to his soldiers nor would the Jewish authorities have spoken Greek in the Lord's interrogation.
Would the Jews have conversed with the Romans in Greek? I'd be surprised. The events depicted lasted less that 24 hours.
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