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RATZINGER APPEARS TO FULFILL MALACHY PROPHECY [De Gloria Olivae]
SpiritDaily.com ^ | 04-19-05 | SpiritDaily.com

Posted on 04/19/2005 10:31:35 PM PDT by Salvation

RATZINGER APPEARS TO FULFILL MALACHY PROPHECY

The moment was one only the Church could pull off: a massive crowd, the ultimate in suspense, fantastic pageantry to match the glory of God.

In fact, even a Fox News commentator commented that on a cloudy day, the sun uncannily erupted at the time of announcement and Rome embraced spring.

It was Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, dean of the College of Cardinals, close confidant of John Paul II, celebrant of the last pope's funeral, and keeper of the flame who became the 265th pontiff.

He is a man who will maintain an accent on orthodoxy as well as on the Blessed Mother -- whom he mentioned right away in his first moments as pontiff.

Pope Benedict XVI is an elderly but strong pope who will bring both immense intellect and force with an unwavering way of presenting the Catholicism of John Paul II.

The name Benedict seemed a strong signal on many levels. It was St. Benedict who was noted for his strong power against the devil -- this important at a time of heightened spiritual warfare -- and the order Benedict founded, the Benedictines, is also known as the "Olivetans." St. Benedict prophesied that the last pope would be from that order.

And it was allegedly St. Malachy of Ireland who prophesied that the Pope after John Paul II  ("Labor of the sun") would be "Glory of the Olives."

St. Malachy's list described a pope later identified as Leo XIII with the words lumen in caelo (light in the heavens), and in fact that pope's coat of arms included a shooting star. Benedict XV was supposedly religio depopulata -- "religion devastated" (he served during World War I); John XXIII, who had served in the port city of Venice, was pastor et nauta ("shepherd and sailor"); and Paul VI was flos florum, or flower of flowers, and his coat of arms indeed displayed the fleur-de-lis (a pattern of flowers). Pope John Paul I was depicted as de medietate lunae, which means "from half of the moon -- and the first two letters of his family name, Luciani, form half of the word "luna," while the current pope, John Paul II was de labore solis, from the labor of the sun (with no clear explanation, although perhaps there is a connection in that he was born the year of an eclipse, and also: his working devotion to the "woman clothed with the sun"). 

That left two popes on St. Malachy's alleged list. One was described as De gloria olivae (from the glory of the olive) and the last as Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman). It is Peter the Roman who is said to reign during tribulations that will include the destruction of Rome.

Whatever the merits of such claims, the last pope named Benedict came during great Church disarray and just before the tumult of World War I. Meanwhile, Cardinal Ratzinger -- who is responsible for rescuing the apparition site of Medjugorje from rejection by a local bishop -- is known for a strong stance on family value and life. He is also a strict disciplinarian who may well address the priestly crisis in a new and stronger way.

[see also: Taking a close look at that alleged St. Malachy prophecy]



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For your lively discussion.

Viva il Papa!

1 posted on 04/19/2005 10:31:36 PM PDT by Salvation
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Catholic Discussion Ping!

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2 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

thank you"Salvation"


3 posted on 04/19/2005 10:41:32 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: Salvation
de labore solis, from the labor of the sun (with no clear explanation...

On another Malachi thread a reference to the East, i.e. Slavdom, as well as to the late Pope's incessant circling the Globe, were seen in the title.

4 posted on 04/19/2005 10:44:05 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex

Explanation is that John Paul II was born during a solar eclipse and was buried on the day that there was a partial solar eclipse.


5 posted on 04/19/2005 10:46:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Bleak, but interesting article from Catholic Planet:

Future Map

 

6 posted on 04/19/2005 10:54:46 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Salamander

PING! (per our discussion)


7 posted on 04/19/2005 11:03:02 PM PDT by shibumi (Forget the Box! Try thinking outside the Oort.)
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To: Smartass

The Book of Revelation is a lot more than end time prophecies.

But that certainly is an interesting link.


8 posted on 04/19/2005 11:07:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; NYer; All

this is for you Thank you

Catholic Online Saints
St. Benedict

In our modern world, we talk fast, we travel fast, and we even pray fast. Have you ever attended rosaries where people seem to say the words at breakneck speed -- apparently more worried about finishing before Mass starts than savoring each word? Our impatience to get to the end, our focus on completion rather than process is a real danger in reading Scripture when every word is from God and has a power all its own. Benedict knew that power because he took the time to let it work within him.

In the fifth century, the young Benedict was sent to Rome to finish his education with a nurse/housekeeper. The subject that dominated a young man's study then was rhetoric -- the art of persuasive speaking. A successful speaker was not one who had the best argument or conveyed the truth, but one who used rhythm, eloquence and technique to convince. The power of the voice without foundation in the heart was the goal of the student's education. And that philosophy was reflected in the lives of the students as well. They had everything -- education, wealth, youth -- and they spent all of it in the pursuit of pleasure not truth. Benedict watched in horror as vice unraveled the lives and ethics of his companions.

Afraid for his soul, Benedict fled Rome, gave up his inheritance, and lived in a small village with his nurse. When God called him beyond this quiet life to even deeper solitude, he went to the mountains of Subiaco. There he lived as a hermit under the direction of another hermit, Romanus. After years of prayer, word of his holiness brought nearby monks to ask for his leadership. He warned them he would be too strict for them, but they insisted -- then tried to poison him when his warning proved true.

So Benedict was on his own again -- but not for long. The next set of followers were more sincere and he set up twelve monasteries in Subiaco where monks lived in separate communities of twelve.

He left these monasteries abruptly when the envious attacks of another hermit made it impossible to continue the spiritual leadership he had taken.

But it was in Monte Cassino he founded the monastery that became the roots of the Church's monastic system. Instead of founding small separate communities he gathered his disciples into one whole community. His own sister, Saint Scholastica , settled nearby to live a religious life.

After almost 1500 years of monastic tradition his direction seems obvious to us. But Benedict was an innovator. No one had ever set up communities like his before or directed them with a rule. What is part of history to us now was a bold risky step into the future.

Benedict had the holiness and the ability to take this step. His beliefs and instructions on religious life were collected in what is now known as the Rule of Saint Benedict -- still directing religious life after 15 centuries.

In this tiny but powerful Rule, Benedict put what he had learned about the power of speaking and oratorical rhythms at the service of the Gospel. He did not drop out of school because he didn't understand the subject! Scholars have told us that his Rule reflects an understanding of and skill with the rhetorical rules of the time. Despite his experience at school, he understood rhetoric was as much a tool as a hammer was. A hammer could be used to build a house or hit someone over the head. Rhetoric could be used to promote vice ... or promote God. Benedict did not shun rhetoric because it had been used to seduce people to vice; he reformed it.

Benedict did not want to lose the power of voice to reach up to God simply because others had use it to sink down to the gutter. He reminded us "Let us consider our place in sight of God and of his angels. Let us rise in chanting that our hearts and voices harmonize." There was always a voice reading aloud in his communities at meals, to receive guests, to educate novices. Hearing words one time was not enough -- "We wish this Rule to be read frequently to the community."

Benedict realized the strongest and truest foundation for the power of words was the Word of God itself: "For what page or word of the Bible is not a perfect rule for temporal life?" He had experienced the power of God's word as expressed in Scripture: "For just as from the heavens the rain and snow come down and do not return there till they have watered the earth, making it fertile and fruitful, giving seed to him who sows and bread to him who eats, so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth; It shall not return to me void, but shall do my will, achieving the end for which I sent it" (Isaiah 55:10-11).

For prayer, Benedict turned to the psalms, the very songs and poems from the Jewish liturgy that Jesus himself had prayed. To join our voices with Jesus in praise of God during the day was so important that Benedict called it the "Work of God." And nothing was to be put before the work of God. "Immediately upon hearing the signal for the Divine Office all work will cease." Benedict believed with Jesus that "One does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God' " (Matthew 4:4).

This prayer, called the Divine Office, was to be chanted from the breviary at specific times of the day. If a monk could not make it to chapel, he was to immediately fall to his knees in the place where he in the fields, in the stable, wherever he was and perform the Work of God under the vault of the sky. There was nothing special about praying in a chapel -- or praying outdoors -- but there was something very special about the prayer. "We believe that God is everywhere," but "without doubt, we believe this is so especially when assisting in the Divine Office." The Church still believes Benedict's and considers the Divine Office the prayer of the Church.

But it wasn't enough to just speak the words. Benedict instructed his followers to practice sacred reading -- the study of the very Scriptures they would be praying in the Work of God. In this lectio divina, he and his monks memorized the Scripture, studied it, and contemplated it until it became part of their being. Four to six hours were set aside each day for this sacred reading. If monks had free time it "should be used by the brothers to practice psalms." Lessons from Scripture were to be spoken from memory not read from a book. On Benedict's list of "Instruments of Good Works" is "to enjoy holy readings."

This sacred reading, however, was a study in love, not intellect. Not just an exercise of the mind, it was an exercise of contemplation so that "our voices and hearts harmonize." Each word of God would soak into their minds, their hearts, their very souls, so that the prayers would spring up from the depths of their being, not just from their memory. "We realize that we will be heard for our pure and sorrowful hearts, not for the numbers of our spoken words." A heart was pure when it was empty of all but God's Word and our desire to remain in God's Word.

First came the lectio, reading the Scripture until a phrase was found that inspired the person to stop. Our natural tendency would be to read the phrase and think about what it means, what it has to do with our lives and then move on. But that was not part of sacred reading.

The next step was to memorize the phrase, repeat it over and over and over from memory without reading it, without thinking about it, just repeating it, until it seemed to be coming from the heart not the voice, until the power of the Word of God could take over.

When the phrase had lost all meaning except that power, the person would fall silent, still not thinking, but letting the inspiration of the Holy Spirit speak about the meaning in the heart. And finally the person would sink into contemplation, going beyond the voice, beyond the intellectual understanding, to sit in the presence of God in the divine Word.

In one story of Benedict's life, a poor man came to the monastery begging for a little oil. Although Benedict commanded that the oil be given, the cellarer refused -- because there was only a tiny bit of oil left. If the cellarer gave any oil as alms there would be none for the monastery. Angry at this distrust of God's providence, Benedict knelt down to pray. As he prayed a bubbling sound came from inside the oil jar. The monks watched in fascination as oil from God filled the vessel so completely that it overflowed, leaked out beneath the lid and finally pushed the cover off, cascading out on to the floor.

In Benedictine prayer, our hearts are the vessel empty of thoughts and intellectual striving. All that remains is the trust in God's providence to fill us. Emptying ourselves this way brings God's abundant goodness bubbling up in our hearts, first with an inspiration or two, and finally overflowing our heart with contemplative love.

Benedict died in 547 while standing in prayer before God.


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9 posted on 04/19/2005 11:08:13 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: Salvation
John Paul II
De labore solis
From the labor of the Sun


John Paul II's birthdate of May 18, 1920 coincided with the largest magnitude partial solar eclipse of the 20th century. The eclipse, one of only 228 solar eclipses during the century, did occur over Europe. His diocese of Krakow is the same place were Copernicus toiled and labored on his theory that the Sun was the center of the Solar System. He came from the East - Poland - the direction from which the Sun rises, and was the first non-Italian Pope in 455 years. The date of his funeral - April 8, 2005 - coincided with a rare hybrid eclipse.



John Paul I
De medietate lunae
From the half Moon


John Paul I's name was Albino Luciani which literally means "white light," as of the Moon. His diocese was Belluna, Italy which literally means "good Moon." His reign began on the phase of the half Moon, one day after its start. The term "half Moon" can also be interpreted as being symbolic of a short reign. He reigned for 34 days, starting from one day past the half Moon and ending just slightly less than a quarter past the next half Moon, but still within its phase. It has been reported that John Paul I privately predicted that his reign would be short and that he would be succeeded by Karol Wojtyla. Both predictions were correct. Incidentally, of the 100+ Cardinals in the August 1978 Conclave, Luciani and Wojtyla sat exactly across from each other in the Sistine Chapel. The official seating chart confirms this.

10 posted on 04/19/2005 11:11:35 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II†, Theresa Marie Schindler†)
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To: Salvation
sounds like more panic types

why people get off for the end of the world is beyond me,

i seriously think people think witnessing the end of the world is such a WONDERFUL thing...scary

11 posted on 04/19/2005 11:15:13 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (22 years old,republican and bitter..why? because our polictians have the mentality of a 5 year old)
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To: Norman Bates

Thanks for that. I've forgotten where I saw it before!


12 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:31 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: MetalHeadConservative35

The prophecies of St. Malachy are private and are therefore neither eschatological nor part of the Catholic deposit of faith.


13 posted on 04/19/2005 11:19:25 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II†, Theresa Marie Schindler†)
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To: All
From NewsMax

Eerie Prophecies Predicted Benedict XVI

When Cardinal Ratzinger was chosen to be the next pope, NewsMax did a Web search for "Benedict XVI" and we were surprised how many prophecies – some rather eerie and apocalyptic – had predicted the name this new pope would take.

The Daily News reported Tuesday that the Irish betting house Paddy Power had three odds-on-favorites: Ratzinger would be elected; it would take three days; and he would take the name Benedict XVI.

Two out of three isn’t bad. Chalk it up to the luck of the Irish – or a little Internet prophecy research.

One internet Web site, CatholicPlanet.com, has published a book by Ronald Conte entitled "The Bible and the Future of the World."

The site says it reveals, from a Catholic viewpoint in Sacred Scripture, God's plan for the future of the Church and the world.

"Many specific and startling predictions of events in the near and distant future are revealed," the site says.

The author claims that in 2009 or 2010, "Pope Benedict XVI" will die and be replaced by the last pope.

The selection of this pope seems to be intertwined with an "end times” biblical view.

On the site prophecies.us, a discussion in January 2005 of who might succeed Pope John Paul II had a post by "Dan," who predicted that on February 22, 2005 a new pope "will appear, and will call himself Pope Benedict XVI, the Pope of Peace, who will lead his church, all the faithful followers of the Lord Jesus Christ to their martyrdom, at the foot of the Cross that stands upon the Mount of Olives."

Dan addsed, "Whereupon the Monarch entering Israel, becomes Elijah, the gentile olive tree, and one of the two witnesses of Revelation 11.

"But Gloriae Olivae [The Glory of the Olives] will tear down the walls of the Vatican, auctioning off all the objects within, in order to feed and enlighten those in the 3rd World who have not yet heard the Gospel according to Christ, nor the prophet Pope's message that accompanies it.

"And he will convert hundreds of millions, for the Hand and Spirit of the Lord is upon him to fulfill His Will, for the sake of the Gentile nations, for which innocent must be shed, or there is no salvation for them."

Dan's reference to the The Glory of the Olives comes from St. Malachy.

As Dr. H.T. Spence relates in his "The Death of the Pope":

"An Irish bishop, Malachy in 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to Pope Innocent II, who promised him two palliums for the metropolitan Sees of Armagh and Cashel.

"While at Rome, he supposedly received a strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before him the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Roman Catholic Church until the end of time.

"History tells us that Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unnoticed in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590."

Interestingly, writing well before the news that Cardinal Ratzinger had been selected, Spence details the connection between Malachy's prophecy for this pope and why many predicted this pope would call himself "Benedict XVI."

"According to Malachy, the 267th pope is called 'Gloria Olivae,' or 'glory of the olive.' Traditionally, the olive branch has been associated with peace, but in both the Old and New Testaments, it also serves as an emblem for the Jews.

"Putting the two together, some commentators believe that the reign of this pope will be dedicated to peace. However, some believe that Malachy's description may instead refer to St. Benedict's sixth-century prophecy that a member of his order will lead the Church in its fight against evil just before the Apocalypse.

"The Benedictine Order is known by another name, Olivetans.

"Those mystic observers in Rome believe if this is true, the next pope will go by the name of Pope Benedict XVI, in imitation of Saint Benedict and Pope Benedict XV. Benedict XV was a pope obsessed with peace: he sought peace and spoke of peace and wrote documents seeking peace."


14 posted on 04/19/2005 11:46:40 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: anonymoussierra
Prophecy
15 posted on 04/19/2005 11:56:59 PM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred

Thank you


16 posted on 04/20/2005 1:36:04 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: All

Spirit Daily needs to stop making the "seers" in Medjugorje rich....
http://www.udayton.edu/mary/questions/faq/faq27.html

They are looping our new Pope in the way they did the last one.


17 posted on 04/20/2005 3:47:53 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Oh Lord help me this day to keep my big mouth shut)
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To: netmilsmom

Michael Brown is a bit on the conspiratorial side. Just look at the stuff he puts up.


18 posted on 04/20/2005 4:25:46 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: netmilsmom
Spirit Daily needs to stop making the "seers" in Medjugorje rich....

I agree.

Testing the Spirit of Medjugorje

19 posted on 04/20/2005 5:10:01 AM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: Salvation
"He is a man who will maintain an accent on orthodoxy as well as on the Blessed Mother -- whom he mentioned right away in his first moments as pontiff."

Perfect choice!
20 posted on 04/20/2005 5:13:06 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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