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To: xzins
I'm not Catholic so I probably don't deserve an opinion on these things.

Of course you do. Anybody with a level head deserves an opinion, and you are among the most level-headed here.

There is one indisputable fact: every single "prophet" who has predicted the end times has been wrong.

They don't have a good track record.

40 posted on 04/20/2005 6:19:37 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

Like most other Christians, I, too, long for the return of the Lord and our gathering to him.

It's just that we were warned to avoid dating these things. Each time someone has violated that it has so inflamed the passions of followers that they've ceased being useful, taken up residence on a local hillside, and sat on their haunches awaiting the end.

I don't know if it's an apocryphal story or not, but supposedly, someone once asked Martin Luther what he'd do if found out the Lord would return on the following day. His response was: "Go plant a tree."

Folks can think what they want on these things, but the thoughtful ones realize this stuff is in God's hands, and that it's best to live in hope but to continue our work within each individual day.


44 posted on 04/20/2005 6:26:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: sinkspur
Anybody with a level head deserves an opinion, and you are among the most level-headed here.

There is one indisputable fact: every single "prophet" who has predicted the end times has been wrong.

They don't have a good track record.

Oh, this is rich! When you see a man with a level head, it usually means he's been hit with a shovel. Speaking of "prophets" and "track records", here are a few excerpts your own recent greatest hits:

Posted by sinkspur to Thorin On Religion 04/17/2005 7:09:47 AM MDT · 59 of 102: Benelli had it "in the bag" in 1978, too, after the death of Paul VI, so much so that he started losing weight when Paul VI got sick so that he would look better in the Papal soutane. Ruini is, like Ratzinger, a Vatican bureaucrat, and Schonborn and Ouellet are in the reactionary camp of the college. The opposition to Ratzinger will come from the U.S., Latin America, and Africa. Your idea of abolishing bishops' conferences is precisely what these prelates fear from a Ratzinger papacy. If the Cardinals choose a 78 year old hardliner, look for the divisions in the Church to worsen. Ratzinger will have to fight fires internally, and his ability to reach out ecumenically will be neutered. Why on earth would the Cardinals select someone who wanted to retire two years ago?

Posted by sinkspur to narses On Religion 04/16/2005 4:31:39 PM MDT · 18 of 102 The Roman Press? LOL!! Ratzinger will never be Pope. He may very well broker the next Pope, however.

For a little change of pace, how about your comment at the end of a headline on a thread you posted:

Cardinals want new Pope to bridge Divides (Ratzinger ain't the one)

And the hits just keep on coming!

Posted by sinkspur to wagglebee On Religion 04/16/2005 2:51:42 PM MDT · 7 of 28 Ratzinger is from the Curia. One thing the Church does not need, after a pastoral Pope like JPII, is a retrenched bureaucrat.

Posted by sinkspur to onyx On Religion 04/14/2005 6:30:57 PM MDT · 6 of 86 Arinze's name has disappeared also, but I think that's because he's been in the Curia for 20 years and the cardinals are not going to elect a Curial cardinal. That includes Ratzinger.

Posted by sinkspur to pro610 On Religion 04/14/2005 6:24:20 PM MDT · 4 of 86 Despite the rumors, I don't think Ratzinger will be elected. He wanted to retire two years ago. There's no way he gets 77 votes, early or late.

Posted by sinkspur to seamole On Religion 04/14/2005 6:21:53 PM MDT · 16 of 33 There are no "palecon" cardinals. These men were all chosen by JPII, and Ratzinger is as conservative as they get. I don't see Ratzinger being elected. He wanted to retire two years ago from the CDF. One of his younger cohorts, like Scola, however, could very well be elected.

And who could ever forget my all-time favorite, the classic:

Posted by sinkspur to St.Chuck On Religion 04/13/2005 8:11:59 PM MDT · 54 of 135

Ratzinger himself will never be Pope, and a sufficient number of cardinals resent him so that anyone he openly campaigns for will not become Pope either.

Oh, Sinkinator, thank you so much for all the yuks! You are obviously a true Vatican insider, and we should all be thankful for your erudite and sage insights into all things Catholic. BTW, please take a look at the NBA playoff teams and let me know which team you think will NEVER be NBA champions. I have a friend who's going to Vegas, and I'd like to know where to put the bankroll.

61 posted on 04/20/2005 7:42:06 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: sinkspur

See post 13.


80 posted on 04/20/2005 11:58:07 AM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II†, Theresa Marie Schindler†)
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