Fox News Live- Pope Benedict Holds First Mass in Sistine Chapel

4-20-05

[STARWISE]

First Mass by the new Pope in Sistine Chapel. Procession is going in now. The Pope is using Pope John Paul II's staff.

[STARWISE]

Blessings on our new Pope Benedict XVI --may his reign be long, strong and healthy!

[onyx]

Present and checking in! :)

I can't get enough of this glorious day...
I know a new day has dawned, but until I
finally sleep, I don't want this one to end.

[STARWISE]

I am spent .. but here I sit ;).

[A CA Guy]

Thanks for the 411

[BigSkyFreeper]

Present!

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Why am I awake and watching this? For the glory of God. Sleep later.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I see the usual suspects living on Rome time...

[oceanperch]

King Vanity has been a wild man with joy all day.

I am glad he is finally getting some rest.

He does not take food by mouth but had me make him a root beer float to taste as part as his celebrating the good news.

Good thing it was shower day as he really worked up a sweat with the Cerebral Palsy flailing to the max due to his joy over the news that the new Holy Father is NOT going to bend one bit.

[BigSkyFreeper]

LOL!

[BigSkyFreeper]

Come on! It's 12:30am where onyx is, and 1:30am where I'm at! LOL

[A CA Guy]

Humanists and heathens hate this Pope. Great stuff, this will be a great Pope for the Church.

[Salvation]

Ping!

[Salvation]

12:30 here.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

1:30 here, I have been to sleep a few hours and woke up. Five am comes too early for me to be up this late otherwise.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I am impressed at his enemies. I love his writings. He's been one of my heros of the faith for awhile.

[Clemenza]

12:31 and just got off the phone with someone in Dubai, where it is 11AM.

[kingu]

Anyone happen to know why he is celebrating his first mass in the Sistine instead of St Peter's? Just to cut down on the number of people? Or to allow more people more time to visit John Paul II's vault?

[BigSkyFreeper]

I'm typically a night owl. Although with the excitement of witnessing history, I've been trying not to miss much with regards to the Conclave and now the installment of Pope Benedict XVI.

[A CA Guy]

Yes, on abc there was an interesting conversation between Kopel and a priest.
Kopel stated that some Catholics (who must be humanists on the side) would have problems with his conservatism and feels he closes down lots of questions people would like to discuss regarding the church.

The priest answered back, "Questions can be good, but this Pope is a expert in these areas and the Church has contemplated over decades many of these questions already that you mention. There is no need to keep questions out there forever just to have them out there. Sometimes the answer is NO, you can't do that."

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Last night I woke up every two hours...this night I woke up after about 3...Got to see the noon time smoke. It was four am here.

[A CA Guy]

Good for you. If a guy in a motorized parachute plane attempts to crash the mass with a Casino advertisement on their back, I just might get real mad.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

--There is no need to keep questions out there forever just to have them out there. Sometimes the answer is NO, you can't do that."--


Great answer! It's like what I tell my teenager: How many ways do you want me to tell you no?

[BigSkyFreeper]

I would be mad too! Even if he was in a spiderman costume, trying to scale the walls of the Vatican with a repelling rope.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Perhaps it's a time for him to be with his cardinals in a collegity he won't be sharing with them much longer as the difference between Ratzinger the Cardinal and Benedict the pope grows firmer....

[BigSkyFreeper]

I crashed on the couch with the TV on, woke up to the sound of the bells chiming from St. Peters Square.

[STARWISE]

Onyx and I already love him -- the MSM's demonizing began immediately, but the more you read about him, and see the kindness in his eyes, his shy demeanor, intellect, faithful devotion .. what you see is a good and true man of faith, who, please God, will have a strong, healthy and fruitful reign.

It doesn't matter what Chrissy, Cokie, E.J., Catholic bashers, gay rights or female priest naggers or any other commentator or politician says to slam this man on his first day and coming days and years. This man was chosen for the world by God and the Holy Spirit .. and it is a right and holy choice.

In spite of requesting retirement 3 times .. all 3 refused by our Dear Great Pope John Paul II.. who said he was needed (I thank God for that gift), he said finally that when he saw what the Pope was enduring to live out his service, he couldn't bring himself to retire to write his theological books in Germany.

God Bless the College of Cardinals for their discernment and swift and righteous choice.

God Bless Pope Benedict XVI-- long may he reign in vibrant good health to keep this ship on her true course.

You can really see that he is a kind and shy man. You see it in his eyes. This mantle will probably be an intimidating and heavy personal challenge for him, but I believe his submission to God's will, his trust and faith shine through .. and that he will be an instrument of God and for good. May our Dear Lord and the Blessed Mother of God protect him from evil, as they did for Holy Pope John II.

[STARWISE]

I missed that, AND I LOVE THAT HE SAID THAT!!! Bravo -- take that, Teddy!! LOL What is it about "No" that you don't grasp?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

beautifully said.

[A CA Guy]

He's going to be the right Pope for these times.

We need a firm hand in affirming traditional historic articles of faith, sacraments and so forth.

I already love this Pope by the enemies he seems to have.

As a German, I do hope he turns around the antisemitism of Germany and also goes to Israel to repeat what JP2 did in reaching out to Israel/Jews.
IMO, they are like the grandparents of our religion anyway. They should not be estranged from Catholics and all of us should back Israel.

[STARWISE]

This Mass normally would be private .. his real public First Mass is this Sunday at St. Peter's. They're really opening up these events to world for the first time .. and I'm so glad and so impressed and loving it.

Think about how many millions of people are hearing the Word of God through this global event, how many are learning about God .. there will be wonderful consequences just from the televising of the rituals, the Liturgy and the beauty of the traditions of the Catholic Church to millions. Hearts are opening to God .. you can hear it and feel.

[STARWISE]

Where are you?

[kingu]

As a German, I do hope he turns around the antisemitism of Germany and also goes to Israel to repeat what JP2 did in reaching out to Israel/Jews.

Most of that was engineered by now Pope Benedict XVI, including the critical documents of the time. I have every faith that he will continue the work he started.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Utah!

[A CA Guy]

Some people who are weak Catholics or other folks all love to debate humanistic ideals with the Authority of the Church and can't understand that what God said he wanted from us isn't supposed to change because the people became pagans.

We are born to love God, and put God above all things. God was not supposed to revolved around all the wishes and whims of his creations, though He will be glad to help us get what we NEED.

[GOPyouth]

I like that he has just mentioned John Paul II and the hope that he is overlooking us. He is now mentioning his "great suffering" before his death.

[A CA Guy]

That would be good for the Catholic Church, Israel, and the world IMO.

I do hope this helps there be a spiritual revival in Germany and rubs off in Europe and America as well.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I'll be glad when the translation is up...

[kingu]

Think about how many millions of people are hearing the Word of God through this global event, how many are learning about God .. there will be wonderful consequences just from the televising of the rituals, the Liturgy and the beauty of the traditions of the Catholic Church to millions. Hearts are opening to God .. you can hear it and feel.

I stopped attending mass when our parish went away from the Latin mass. That parish went downhill quickly, as did the local one where I live now. Hopefully sometime soon I can find an orthodox parish nearby... I hadn't really considered it much until these events; they've touched a part that was empty within me.

I visited the local church on the way home from work this evening.. I really have to find a more traditional one; it reminded me much of a Unitarian temple in how much of the Sacred was dressed over for modern consumption.

[lainde]

You're not alone. What a glorious 24 hours!

[lainde]

I was in Munich when he was archbishop. I had no idea I was seeing a future pope!

[STARWISE]

My brain is fried for sure, but I think I first heard the hints of white smoke about 10-11 central time .. I'm in IL -- so I don't know how it could've been in that timeframe here and 4 am in UT -- LOL. I'm sure I'm missing a link somewhere .. right?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

That was the earlier one, noon rome time. The white smoke was about 6 rome time...was online and watching both!

[lainde]

I stopped attending mass when our parish went away from the Latin mass

You and many of us fell away confused and discouraged. The last mass I attended had a priest nearly in drag. It was very distressing. I am so inspired by the past few weeks I have been researching churches in my area and am determined to find one now. I have so much confidence in this new Pope. He is surely a divine choice.

[kingu]

I'll be glad when the translation is up...

Same here, I hate listening to translations - the pacing is never right.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

It sounds neat, though...I especially liked the bits about the importance of the Eucharistic Jesus.

[BigSkyFreeper]

...I do hope he turns around the antisemitism of Germany and also goes to Israel to repeat what JP2 did in reaching out to Israel/Jews. IMO, they are like the grandparents of our religion anyway. They should not be estranged from Catholics and all of us should back Israel.

I do too. JPII saw all peoples as one, no matter what our faith is, as long as our faith is in the same God, that's all that matters.

[kingu]

Indeed; I also like how he is well aware of the church's important place on the world stage. The liberals are going to REALLY hate this pope which means I'm going to have to support him as much as I am able.

[DarthVader]

Remember Moses was 80 years old when God chose him to be the deliverer of Israel. Now God sends us someone with his savy,knowledge and experience, the right man, for the right time. His meekness is only a sign of the awesome power of God the Father dwelling within him, which will empower him to accomplish his purpose. He will only inspire and embolden Christians of all sects worldwide to take the right stances and fight against evil.

[STARWISE]

Just breathtaking

[Knitting A Conundrum]

The battle lines are drawn. The intelligensia of relativism stands unmasked, and we see it for what it is.

Now it's time to rally around the Cross. And Benedict will be our leader.