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Posted on 05/04/2005 9:19:47 AM PDT by ksen
How John Calvin Led Me to Repent of Christian Psychology
by Pastor Steven J. Cole
On March 24, 1974, the day after our wedding, my wife, Marla, and I rented a rowboat at Lake Arrowhead, California. Being a cheapskate, my intention was to rent the boat for only one hour. I planned to row out into the lake for about 20 minutes, sit and bask in the presence of my bride for about 20 minutes, and row back in time to avoid the charge for the second hour.
When I got to the point where I planned to sit for 20 minutes, I lined myself up with two separate points on shore to make sure I wasnt drifting too far from my spot. Every so often, I rowed back to where I thought the two points lined up. But when it was time for the 20-minute row back to the rental place, I was in for a surprise. I discovered that in spite of my precautions, we had drifted much farther out into the lake than I had thought. To get us back to shore in time, I had to row like an Olympic crew member!
I have found that spiritually, its easy to think that youre on course when actually, youre drifting. For years in my pastoral ministry, I thought I was giving my people solid biblical principles to live by. I had graduated from a seminary whose motto, emblazoned in the original Greek at the front of the chapel, was, Preach the Word (2 Tim. 4:2). I had been trained in how to exegete Scripture, how to prepare and deliver biblically sound sermons, and how to counsel people from the Bible.
Like most of my evangelical pastor-comrades, my preaching was often flavored by the latest insights of psychology. Of course, I would never use psychological insights unless they were in line with Scripture. But, at the same time, I had been taught in seminary, All truth is Gods truth. If a psychologist stumbles across some biblical principle, why not use it? Doesnt the Bible teach proper self-love, as long as Im not proud (love your neighbor as yourself) Matt. 22:39)? Isnt Gods love for me the basis for proper self-esteem? Arent parents supposed to build their childrens self-esteem?
So I preached sermons such as Feeling Good About Yourself and Developing a Sense of Self-Worth, based on Scripture (so I thought), laced with insights, quotes, and stories from the leading Christian psychologists, whose books and articles I read. I attended conferences where these men provided training in various aspects of pastoral ministry, counseling, and communication. I used videos by Christian psychologists to help train people in things like child-rearing and marital relationships. I took church people with me to a marriage seminar led by two popular Christian psychologists. In the early 1980s, I tried to publish a book on the Christian and emotions, which I thought at the time was solidly biblical. Im thankful now that it never found a publisher.
Although we did not have support groups in our church (because I was too busy to organize them), I was open to using programs like A. A. to help minister to hurting people. After all, the 12 Steps sounded biblical, many large evangelical churches used them, and they seemed to help people. I had an associate pastor who wanted to start such a group in the church, and initially I was agreeable to the idea.
But then, after about 13 years in the pastorate, God graciously whacked me on the side of the head with a two-by-four to show me where I had drifted off course. At the time, I wasnt unhappy with my view of the Christian life. I would have argued that I was solidly biblical, that I only used psychology to illustrate or supplement scriptural principles, and that I was communicating in terms that my congregation could relate to.
God sovereignly brought together several factors to confront me with the need to change. One of the most powerful was that for the first time I read completely through John Calvins Institutes of the Christian Religion. At the same time, the elders of the church I pastored had assigned another elder and me the task of reading a Christian psychology book that the support group planned to use. The contrast between Calvin on the one hand, and the Christian psychology book on the other was like day and night. God drew a line in the dirt and pointedly said, Which side are you on? I couldnt straddle the line. I had to repent of the psychologized version of the faith I had drifted into and turn back to God-centered Christianity, founded on the all-sufficiency of Christ and the Scriptures.
That was in 1991, and since then I have grown more certain of the evil of blending Christianity and psychology. Just as in Israel of old, men both feared the Lord and served their own gods according to the custom of the nations (2 Kings 17:33), so I believe many American Christians have fallen into a syncretistic blending of Christianity and worldly psychology. But the two do not mix!
Before I look at some specific issues, let me emphasize that it took a while for these issues to come into focus for me. I began to have some concerns in the early 1980s. But I continued to be supportive of using psychology to some degree up till April, 1991, when I came to a crisis point and I had to cross the line. Since then, I have grown more in my understanding of these matters. Some of you may disagree strongly with what I say. I dont expect everyone to agree with me instantly. But I do hope that I make you begin to re-think these matters in light of Scripture. I have to be very selective, but I want to present five areas where I believe so-called Christian psychology is at odds with biblical truth.
1. The Christian psychology movement is built on an inadequate view of salvation.
In the late 1980s, it began to dawn on me in a greater way than ever before that there were many people sitting in my congregation every week who professed to be saved, but there was not much evidence of it in their lives.
In the fall of 1990, as I mentioned, the elders assigned to another elder and me to check out the book that the proposed Recovery Group led by my associate wanted to use. This elder and his wife had been on Campus Crusades staff for about 20 years and he taught at their seminary (my church was near Crusades headquarters and many of our people were on staff). His wife was one of the emotionally hurting people who wanted us to start these recovery groups.
The book we read was Henry Clouds When Your World Makes No Sense [Oliver-Nelson, 1990]. I was told that it would help me understand these hurting people. I tried to give it every benefit of a doubt, but there was one part early in the book that troubled me, where Cloud asserts that for these hurting people, the standard Christian answers (dealing with sin, faith, obedience, time in the Word and prayer, etc.) did not work. He compares such things to the counsel given by Jobs friends, calling it worthless medicine. Then he proposes his solution, which is essentially a baptized version of developmental psychology.
As this elder and I were discussing Clouds approach, he told me that people like his wife who were from dysfunctional homes could not relate to my preaching because I emphasize obedience to Gods Word. Because they had strict, cold, authoritarian fathers, they dont relate well to authority. I replied that I thought that I also put a strong emphasis on Gods grace as the motivation for obedience. But he responded that his wife couldnt even relate to Gods grace it went right by her. I was a bit taken aback, and so I said, You mean that the many times I have spoken on Gods grace, she didnt hear me? He said yes, in her 20 years on Crusade staff, never once had she felt Gods grace and love on a personal level.
I thought about what he had said and asked some clarifying questions to make sure I understood him. Then I responded, If your wife has never felt Gods love and grace, she is not converted! I had been reading Jonathan Edwards classic, A Treatise on Religious Affections, in which he makes a strong biblical case that saving faith is not mere intellectual assent to the gospel, but that it affects the heart. This elder got very upset with me. But I stuck to my guns then and do so now, that if a person can sit in church for 20 years and never be moved by Gods grace and love as shown to us at the cross, then that person is not truly converted.
As I thought about what this elder, my associate, Henry Cloud, and others in their camp were saying, I realized that, in effect, they were saying that the transforming power of the gospel, which has sustained the saints in and through every conceivable trial, was not sufficient to deal with the emotional problems of these late 20th century Christians. And, I came to realize that the psychologized approach to Christianity was built on the inadequate theology that equates conversion with making a decision to invite Christ into your heart. But the two are not necessarily synonymous.
Biblically, conversion is the supernatural act of God whereby He imparts spiritual life to a person who is dead in trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1-5). It is not something that man can effect at all (John 1:12-13). As Calvin (and Edwards) helped me to see, invariably God has revealed to the truly converted person something of His awesome majesty and holiness. Instantly, like Isaiah after his vision of God, the sinner is struck with his utter defilement of heart in the presence of this unapproachable light, and he cries out, Woe is me, for I am undone! Rather than feeling better about himself, he feels much worse as he realizes his true condition before the Holy God. Like the man in Jesus story, he is even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but he beats his breast and cries out, God, be merciful to me, the sinner! (Luke 18:13). And, of course, God is merciful to all who truly call on Him.
Psychologist Henry Cloud (p. 16) contends that any approach that makes the hurting person feel like he is to blame for his pain whether due to a lack of faith in God or a lack of obedience, or whatever is judgmental and only causes untold damage. But Calvin starts out The Institutes in quite the opposite direction:
I believe that there are many people in evangelical churches who have been told, Peace, peace, when there is no peace. They think theyre right with God because they went forward or prayed a prayer, but they have never known anything of their own corruption of heart through the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit. They do not feel, as Spurgeon put it, the noose around their neck, and so they do not weep for joy when the Savior cuts the rope. In many cases, they have not been truly converted. I believe that the Christian psychology movement is built on this faulty view of salvation that minimizes depravity and makes conversion something the sinner can do by deciding for Jesus.
2. Christian psychology focuses people on self, not on God and His glory.
One of the most pervasive errors to flood into the church in the past 25 years is that the Bible teaches that we need to love ourselves and grow in self-esteem. I was influenced toward this view in part by reading James Dobsons, Hide or Seek , sub-titled Self-Esteem for the Child. He contends that there is an epidemic of low self-esteem in our society that is responsible for many of our social ills. His opening illustration is about Lee Harvey Oswald, and how this poor man constantly was put down. The only thing he could do well was shoot a rifle, so he finally was driven to do something where he could feel good about himself: he shot President Kennedy. The clear message is that if somehow this man had felt better about himself, maybe he wouldnt have done this terrible deed. Dobson also wrote, What Wives Wish Their Husbands Knew About Women [Tyndale, 1975], in which he asserts that low self-esteem is the number one problem plaguing Americas Christian women (p. 22).
This notion pervades dozens of popular Christian books. In Worry-Free Living [Thomas Nelson, 1989], Frank Minirth, Paul Meier, and Don Hawkins state that a lack of self-worth is the basis of most psychological problems (p. 140). They say that the reason David could defeat Goliath but Saul could not is that David had good self-esteem, whereas Saul did not (p. 139). They also say that the ten spies who brought back a negative report on the giants in Canaan suffered from a negative self-concept, whereas Joshua and Caleb had a positive self-concept and respected themselves (p. 136).
I received a brochure from the Rapha Treatment Centers, founded by Robert McGee, author of The Search for Significance. There are glowing endorsements from Billy Graham, Charles Stanley, Dawson McAllister, D. James Kennedy, Jerry Falwell, and Beverly LaHaye. The brochure explains, Part of Raphas success is found in the unique ability to target and resolve problems of low self-esteem. At the core of all emotional problems and addictive disorders is low self-worth. It is never the only problem; but it is so major an issue that, if not dealt with adequately, one is kept from experiencing lasting, positive results.
I had never gone that far in teaching self-esteem. I was more balanced! I taught that too much self-love was pride, but that we must have a proper amount of self-love so that we can have enough confidence to function in life and to serve God. I had used the truths of our position in Christ to support this, along with the command to love your neighbor as yourself.
Then I read Calvin! In discussing original sin, he shows how by fallen nature we all are prone to flatter ourselves because of innate self-love. He states (2.1.2),
He goes on to say that such building up of fallen human nature teaches us to be satisfied with ourselves, but that it so deceives as to drive those who assent to it into utter ruin.
Later, in discussing our need to love our neighbor as the fulfillment of the law, he states (2.8.54),
Indeed, to express how profoundly we must be inclined to love our neighbors [Lev. 19:18], the Lord measured it by the love of ourselves because he had at hand no more violent or stronger emotion than this.
He goes on to refute certain men in his day who taught, as many modern Christian psychologists teach, that we must first learn to love ourselves before we can love God and others.
As opposed to self-love, Calvin repeatedly emphasizes humility as the chief virtue. In a chapter dealing with the bondage of the will in sin (2.2.11), he cites Augustine, When anyone realizes that in himself he is nothing and from himself he has no help, the weapons within him are broken, the wars are over. But all the weapons of impiety must be shattered, broken, and burned; you must remain unarmed, you must have no help in yourself. The weaker you are in yourself, the more readily the Lord will receive you. Calvin concludes, But I require only that, laying aside the disease of self-love and ambition, by which he is blinded and thinks more highly of himself than he ought [cf. Gal. 6:3], he rightly recognize himself in the faithful mirror of Scripture [cf. James 1:22-25].
Also, Calvin has a wonderful chapter titled, The Sum of the Christian Life: The Denial of Ourselves (3.7). As I read Calvins solidly biblical treatment of the nature of man and sin, I realized that I had erred greatly by falling into the proper self-esteem teaching of Christian psychology. I realized that Christian psychology served to build man up in his sin and to pull God down as our good buddy who loves us unconditionally so that we can accept ourselves. But the Bible lifts God up as holy and glorious, while it strips man of his pride and self-righteousness and lays even the most righteous man on earth in the dust so that he proclaims, I am insignificant; what can I reply to You?... I abhor myself and repent in dust and ashes (Job 40:4; 42:6).
Stemming from the wrong view of self and of God, I also began to see that Christian psychology does not direct people toward the proper focus of glorifying God and living to please Him, no matter what the personal cost. Rather, it uses God and the Bible for the selfish ends of happiness and inner peace. The Christian psychology/self-help books invariably quote numerous Scriptures and, at times, even expound on them. This gives these books the veneer of sounding biblical. But the heart of their approach is using God to make self happy or fulfilled, rather than submitting to God to glorify Him because He alone deserves it.
It took a while, but I finally came to see that this was the problem with the popular 12 Step programs that have also invaded the church. When I was looking for some way to help these hurting people in my church, a man gave me a video and workbook that was being used in Chuck Swindolls thriving Fullerton Evangelical Free Church. I respected Chuck and had benefited from his preaching ministry, so I was hopeful that I could use the material.
But as I examined it, I became disturbed. It used Scripture references often, but it wove in all the familiar stuff about low self-worth. It said that the cure to our emotional problems comes when we learn to focus on ourselves, to love ourselves and build our self-esteem, which is the missing ingredient in our personalities. I realized that the 12 Step programs are simply using God (however you conceive him to be!) to make self happy.
In contrast to Christian psychology, Jesus states that if you want to follow Him the very first thing is to deny yourself and take up your cross daily (Luke 9:23). The two approaches cannot be blended. Either you repent of self-love and pride and die to self so as to live for the glory of God and His purpose, or you vainly try to use God to further your own happiness. To follow Jesus, self must constantly be dethroned.
3. Christian psychology denies the sufficiency of Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit.
Henry Cloud, in the book mentioned earlier, states flatly, I tried the `standard Christian answers for myself and others, and I came to the same conclusions that Job reached: they are worthless medicine (p. 17). These standard answers are to tell people that they are in sin, that they dont have enough faith, that they dont spend enough time in the Word or in quiet times, or that they are in some other way to blame for their pain (p. 16). In other words, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are not enough. You need the insights of psychology to deal with your emotional struggles.
But the Bible is clear that the living Lord Jesus Christ is everything to the believer. In Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete (Col. 2:9, 10). Furthermore, He has not left us alone, but has freely given us His Holy Spirit to indwell and empower us. If we walk by the Spirit, we will not carry out the desires of the flesh and His fruit love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control will characterize our lives (Gal. 5:16, 22, 23). I contend that these qualities describe a psychologically mature, whole person. Being fruit, these qualities take time to develop. They are not attained without effort and struggle. But the Bible does not say that these qualities are available to everyone from fairly normal backgrounds, but those from dysfunctional homes will have to wait for psychotherapy to come along to attain them! It promises this fruit to every believer who will walk in dependence on the Holy Spirit.
I am not suggesting that for the believer, life is effortless and easy, where we are never down, we never struggle with feelings of despair, depression, anxiety, or fear. The Bible shows us godly men and women who wrestled with overwhelming emotions as they went through horrible trials. Paul himself said that he was burdened so excessively that he despaired even of life. But did he go visit his therapist and learn to feel better about himself? No, he says that the point of his awful trial was so that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead (2 Cor. 1:8, 9).
I contend that one of the main purposes of trials is to teach us that same lesson, not to trust ourselves, but to trust even more fully the all-sufficiency of our Lord Jesus Christ. Sometimes trials also teach us that we need one another in the body, to bear one anothers burdens. So when I talk of the all-sufficiency of Christ, I am not excluding the need for fellow believers to listen and care and counsel. But we should be helping one another to appropriate Christ, not the latest techniques of self-focused psychotherapy.
4. Christian psychology undermines the sufficiency and authority of Gods Word.
This is related to the sufficiency of Christ and the Holy Spirit, of course. But it extends to all of Scripture. Christian psychology tells us that the Word is fine, as far as it goes, but that it does not deal with all the complex problems we face nowadays. The Bible is fine for dealing with spiritual matters of salvation, but when it comes to grappling with emotional problems, you need a trained therapist.
For example, Christianity Today [2/10/92, p. 28] pontificated, Myth: A pastor is competent to counsel his parishioners. Fact: Most pastors are armed with only a meager knowledge of behavioral therapies. A pastors calling is, primarily, a spiritual one, helping people to find strength in Gods presence and a sense of divine direction in the midst of difficulty. Psychological adjustment is a different matter, and when it requires serious attention, pastors should find ways of partnering with professional counselors or psychiatrists.
Sadly, even R. C. Sproul, whose teaching I usually appreciate, buys into the view that Scripture is not sufficient for the believer. In his Tabletalk magazine [2/94], he ran an article by John Coe from the Rosemead School of Psychology. Coe develops the argument that Scripture is only part of Gods revelation. He calls Thomas Aquinas to testify that God not only speaks to us through the Word, but also in nature. Coe contends, Only when all forms of revelation are taken together can we speak of the sufficiency of revelation. He says that the Bible provides the divine interpretation of aspects of history and nature. But alone it is insufficient. He states that the author of Ecclesiastes is conscious of both the insufficiency of the Bible alone as well as of natural wisdom alone.
Coe is trying to establish that we need the wisdom gained through psychology to supplement Scripture, because all truth is Gods truth. The Bible doesnt tell us all we need to know about medicine or mathematics. Even so it is foolish to ignore the wisdom of modern psychology.
But these arguments are fallacious and detrimental to the authority of Scripture. The real issue is, how do we determine what truth is, especially in the psychological realm? Psychology encroaches on issues that are dealt with quite clearly in the Bible: anger, lust (sexual addiction), bitterness, anxiety, abusive speech, depression, and many other areas. The whole Bible is aimed at helping us to have healthy relationships (love your neighbor). The Bible speaks to some medical issues, but that is not its focus. But it clearly tells us how to deal with the very problems psychology purports to help us resolve. And psychology invariably takes a different approach than Scripture, because it is self-focused and not concerned with pleasing God. Furthermore, it is fallacious to assume that psychology is a science on a par with modern medicine. There are literally hundreds of competing psychotherapies that do not have any scientifically established validity. If there are psychological truths, then they will line up with Scripture, in which case psychology is superfluous.
One of the things that strikes me in reading Calvin is that through Scripture alone he was able to extricate himself from the monolithic influence of Roman Catholicism. Because he was steeped in the Word Calvin lived a godly life in spite of almost constant bodily illness and in spite of intense opposition to his teaching. His universal test for everything was, What does Scripture say? As a pastor, he helped his people deal with all the trials of that time by preaching and counseling strictly from Gods Word. The Bible claims that it will equip the man of God for every good work. A psychologically or emotionally impaired person is not so equipped. Gods precious and magnificent promises, along with His divine power grant to us everything pertaining to life and godliness (2 Pet. 1:3, 4). What more do we need to face lifes problems? Certainly not worldly psychology!
5. Christian psychology minimizes the biblical view of sin and personal responsibility.
If youve read any of the popular Christian psychology literature, I wont need to prove for you that the Christian psychology movement greatly minimizes the biblical view of sin and personal responsibility. The movement consistently uses medical terminology that implies that the person is not responsible for his problems. He is a sexual addict, not enslaved to lust. He is an alcoholic, not a drunkard. He is in recovery, not repentance. A workbook called, The Twelve Steps for Christians, used by Chuck Swindolls former church in Fullerton states,
As we become willing to admit our dysfunction to ourselves and others in recovery, we will see that this process is healing and rewarding. . . .
It goes on to tell us that we need to acknowledge and even befriend our negative or repressed nature. We will learn to accept our unwanted tendencies such as anger, inappropriate sexual behavior, hostility or aggression.
Did you notice, there was no mention of sin, corruption, repentance, or Gods undeserved favor? A few pages later the manual lists some milestones in recovery. One is that we generally approve of ourselves. Another states that we are recovering through loving and focusing on ourselves. We feel comfortable standing up for ourselves when it is appropriate. We love people who love and take care of themselves. We have a healthy sense of self-esteem.
I could go on and on citing examples of the psychobabble that has flooded the church. It simply echoes the current cultural emphasis on victimization and self-acceptance, no matter how terribly a person has sinned.
In stark contrast, Calvin is refreshingly humble in classing himself and all believers as sinners. In his great chapter on repentance, he states (3.3.10), We ... teach that in the saints, until they are divested of mortal bodies, there is always sin; for in their flesh there resides that depravity of inordinate desiring which contends against righteousness. Later in the same chapter (3.3.20), he calls us to a life of continual effort and exercise in the mortification of the flesh, till it is utterly slain, and Gods Spirit reigns in us. He states, Therefore, I think he has profited greatly who has learned to be very much displeased with himself, not so as to stick fast in this mire and progress no farther, but rather to hasten to God and yearn for him in order that, having been engrafted into the life and death of Christ, he may give attention to continual repentance.
In his chapter on Self-denial (3.7.4; you will find no biblical treatment of self-denial in the Christian psychology books), Calvin writes most insightfully of our sinful nature:
If I were not feeling well, I would want the doctor to tell me the truth about my condition. He may give me hugs and tell me that Im the most wonderful guy in the world. He may assure me that my problem is minor and tell me that I should ignore how I feel and tell myself how terrific I am. But if Ive got cancer, all of his hugs and reassuring talk are worthless. I need to face the hard truth about my condition. Only then is there any hope that I will take the cure, as painful as it may be, and get better.
We dont do sinners a favor by glossing over the serious, pervasive nature of their pride, lust, greed, jealousy, and self-centeredness. We only truly help sinners when we lovingly but honestly help them to see the truth as revealed in Gods Word. The closer anyone draws near to the unapproachable light of Gods holy presence, the more he sees the contamination of sin in his own heart. If he truly knows Christ as his Savior from sin, he will hate the sin he sees within, make efforts to root it out, and thankfully appropriate Gods abundant grace and forgiveness.
I hope that you can see how far from biblical truth todays Christian psychology movement has drifted so that you will completely renounce it. I hope youll also see how sound Calvins doctrine of the Christian life is so that you will begin to read him.
Some of you may be thinking, Arent you being kind of extreme? Arent you throwing the baby out with the bath water? Isnt there some good to be gained from psychology?
Not much! There may be some useful insights in the same vein that Readers Digest offers some interesting observations once in a while. But psychology does not offer anything necessary for life and godliness that is lacking in the Bible. If a problem is due to organic or chemical dysfunction in the brain, a person may need a medical solution (although I urge caution with regard to the use of psychiatric drugs). But in terms of offering solutions to the emotional and relational problems we face, psychology has nothing to offer the believer, and it has much to deceive and confuse.
In a letter I asked James Dobson if he could name just one problem for which the Bible has no answer, but psychology does. His form-letter reply was that we need Christian psychologists to help parents determine if a six-year-old boy is emotionally and physically ready to enter the first grade; to help the parents of a gifted or retarded child cope; to help a man whose wife became schizophrenic and ran screaming down the street; to give counsel to a man thinking about mid-life career change; and, to help an adolescent who was extremely rebellious and resentful of his father.
Educational or vocational counseling is far different than the psychotherapeutic nonsense that is flooding the church, thanks to Dobson and others like him. Why do we need psychologists to help parents cope with a difficult child? Doesnt the Bible give us wisdom for dealing with such trials? In the case of the schizophrenic woman, if her problem is organically caused, she needs a medical doctor. If not, she definitely does not need a psychologist, and neither does her husband. He needs to learn to love her as Christ does the church. She needs to deal with whatever sinful thoughts and behavior are behind her breakdown and to learn to trust in the sufficiency of Christ. The last thing a rebellious teenager needs is to hear a psychologist tell him that he needs to build his self-esteem!
For thousands of years the Bible has been adequate to equip the saints to go through tragedy, to face persecution and even martyrdom. Why are we so insistent on turning from our all-sufficient Lord, the fountain of living waters, to hew cisterns for ourselves, broken cisterns, that can hold no water (Jer. 2:13)? We dont need psychology. We need the Lord and His Word. I thank the Lord for His servant, John Calvin, who helped me to repent of so-called Christian psychology!
Amen to that. Enjoyed this article.
My pastor holds the view the Psychology only exists to help us deal with the GUILT of our sin and not the sin itself.
I agree with him.
Psychology is the study of the mind (psyche).
It involves the functioning and biology of the brain and goes from there to an attempt to understand how individual behavior is affected by that mind. It's really no different than understanding how the function (or malfunction) of the heart has certain physiological responses.)
How the function of the brain has certain behavioral responses.
So far, we've done nothing unChristian, have we?
I do agree, that the creator is the one to turn to for, healing, and the minds proper function.
I for one have looked deeply into psychology. I have the eight year degree, undergrad in biblical counseling, and Masters in Social work.
I do understand the benefits of psychology. It is in the tools. Not the percepts or the presuppositions.
The tools are simply this, how to interact with a person so that they are open to counsel.
The Christian psychology is neither, Christian nor psychology. There is a denial of sin that does not, is not allowed its correct view from God's book. There is also a denial of deliverance. The classical demonic influence and the personal relational aspect of Christ removing desire to sin from an individual are ignored in CP. ( I was nearly dismissed from my Christian college for writing about the effects of the demonic on the counseling practice. )
These make the Christian psychology person ineffectual in both areas. A form of spirituality while denying the power thereof.
The tools of counseling practice do have merit. Those were good to learn and practice. Gary Smally talks about love language, which is a tool from psychology. He also uses drive up window communication model. Those can be great. Do not ask him to deal with the spirit of strife that must be renounced and repented of.
I personally have moved in to the full gospel camp. I will completely submit to the scriptures to find my model of correct thought and action.
Has anyone noticed that the psychiatrists are practicing what the OT describes as sorcery?
I have not had time to read your entire post, but understand the idea. And support it fully, because I have the credentials and the experience from both sides.
Kevon Goodge, BRE, MSW, SSW. 2 Cor 10:4-8
Did you read the article, or are you following Laz's example of proudly posting without reading the article since 19XX?
I wonder if that's true about Sproul. 1994 is rather dated. Some preachers like John MacArthur will come up with some weird stuff now and then only to later make corrections down the road. Problem is, once you published a certain view then it seems to float around forever even though you might have retracted it.
I couldn't determine one way or another from Sproul's website if he really still holds this view. It won't stop me from reading his articles but it is a little disappointing.
I just scan articles like this and look at the conclusion. I pretty much expected what it said. Blah blah blah psychology blah blah blah calvin blah blah blah dobson blah blah blah bad
I just hope the author doesn't get hit in the head with a heliocentric solar system.
To me it's akin to saying "John Calvin saved me from advances in heart medication."
If you are not going to bother to at least read the article than please try to refrain from criticizing it.
...if her problem is organically caused, she needs a medical doctor.
Exactly. If someone has a real brain injury or disfunction, they should be seeing a psychiatrist, a medical docotor.
But a person's first and primary resource for how to live one's life should be Scripture. Only then will our lives become "God-entranced."
From a sermon by Pastor William Robison...
"We see that Paul's first recorded sermon (preached in the synagogue of Antioch of Pisidia) had two main points. One point is that everything in the history of Israel was leading up to the coming of Jesus and the great salvation for sinners that he would accomplish when he died and rose again. The other point in this sermon is that the story behind Jesus is God's story. His sermon is utterly saturated with God. Sixteen times Paul presses home the truth that God is the central Actor in history. Therefore, we are to lift all of our lives up to God and a God-ward lived, God-centered, God intoxicated, and God immersed life-lived out in a God entranced worldview. Parenting, marriage, sex, eating, school, work, play, television, music, sports, life, and money, are all meant to be swept up into the Holy presence of God."
And as John Calvin said, we understand these truths through the reading of Scripture...
"Therefore, while it becomes man seriously to employ his eyes in considering the works of God, since a place has been assigned him in this most glorious theatre that he may be a spectator of them, his special duty is to give ear to the Word, that he may the better profit." -- Institutes, I.vi
"this most glorious theatre..."
"For what accords better and more aptly with faith than to acknowledge ourselves divested of all virtue that we may be clothed by God, devoid of all goodness that we may be filled by Him, the slaves of sin that he may give us freedom, blind that he may enlighten, lame that he may cure, and feeble that he may sustain us; to strip ourselves of all ground of glorying that he alone may shine forth glorious, and we be glorified in Him?" -- Institutes, Prefatory Address.
So tell me ksen. When I went into a deep depression following my round with cancer, just exactly what sin did I need to deal with?
I was meeting regularly with my Pastor at the time (a good Evangelical Presbyterian). He insisted I go to a counselor.
Thank God he did.
Corin, I'm not going to comment on your past medical condition. For all I know your depression could have been brought on medically because of your cancer or the treatment you were receiving.
I'm sure your pastor gave you great advice.
With this kind of attitude, is it any wonder the Christian Reformed Church supports three psychiatric hospital? I noticed that this article makes little or no mention of God's love for men. Typical of hyper-Calvinism. Man is scum and is absolutely worthless.
I couldn't determine one way or another from Sproul's website if he really still holds this view. It won't stop me from reading his articles but it is a little disappointing.
A few things to keep in mind though.
First, Sproul is the Executive Editor of TableTalk. So though the article didn't appear without his approval, he wasn't the one who wrote it.
Second, the excerpts the author provides from the article don't explicitly state what the author says they do, so without the context of the quotes I can't draw a concrete conclusion about the truth or validity of the statements.
Third, I have read more than enough of RC Sproul to know that his view of Scripture is much higher than the author appears to give him credit for. Consider the following excerpt from the New Geneva Study Bible (of which Sproul was the General Editor):
The Authority of ScriptureI agree with the author to an extent regarding "Christian psychology." However, it is quite possible to study and apply psychology that remains true to Scripture. I happen to know at least one Christian psychologist who does exactly that.
The Christian principle of biblical authority means that God is the author of the Bible, and has given it to direct the belief and behavior of His people. Our ideas about God and our conduct should be measured, tested, and where necessary corrected and enlarged, by reference to the Bible. Authority is also the right to command. Gods written Word in its truth and wisdom is the way God has chosen to exercise His rule over us, and Scripture is the instrument of Christs lordship over the church. The work of the Scripture in the church is illustrated by the seven letters of Revelation (Rev. 2; 3).
Many Protestants regard the Bible as having its unique authority in its subject matter, or in the experience and insights of the human authors. The central assumption is that the Bible remains fundamentally a human book and not a divine revelation. The Bible is a guide for their religious experience, but it is not clearly distinguished from other sources, such as political movements and social forces. All too often, the Bible is displaced by voices that oppose it.
Historic Protestantism accepts the Scripture as the only written revelation of God. It is inspired, or God-breathed (2 Tim. 3:16), distinguishing it from all other words. As a result, the Scriptures are infallible and true in all that they affirm. They are sufficient, containing everything that is necessary to know for salvation and eternal life. They are clear, so that a person without special preparation can understand what God requires without the intervention of an official interpreter.
The canonical Scripture is the voice of God in the world. It has an authority, or right to commmand, corresponding to its divine Author. For this reason, we submit our thoughts and moral standards to the Bible. It was through the recognition that the Bible cannot be subject to any person or group, however exalted, that the Reformers freed their consciences from human traditions and authorities.
New Geneva study Bible. 1997, c1995 (electronic ed.) Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Thank you for giving your learned opinion, I appreciate hearing it.
The tools of counseling practice do have merit.
What kind of tools do you mean?
Has anyone noticed that the psychiatrists are practicing what the OT describes as sorcery?
Would you tell us your observations?
There's Neuthetic Counseling which is supposed to be totally Bible-centered in its approach.
I understand. But I was responding more directly to ksen's comment:
He said: My pastor holds the view the Psychology only exists to help us deal with the GUILT of our sin and not the sin itself.
So I don't think, in response to that statement, it really matters whether it was "clinical depression" or "low self esteem."
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