Posted on 05/18/2005 9:23:38 PM PDT by murphE
LOS ANGELES/ ST PAUL- MINNEAPOLIS, May 16, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Feast of Pentecost is the celebration in the Christian calendar of the descent of the Holy Spirit onto the Disciples of Christ after His resurrection and ascension into heaven as recorded in the bible. In recent years, homosexual activists have used the feast as an annual pretext for protests to make demands that the Catholic Church change her teaching on the sinfulness of homosexual acts.
Archbishop Flynn of St. Paul-Minneapolis, Cardinal Mahoney of Los Angeles and bishop Matthew Clarke of Rochester New York have been singled out for praise by the Rainbow Sash Movement as being especially friendly to them and their demands. Since the election of Pope Benedict XVI however, word has come down definitively from Rome that the protesters may not receive Holy Communion. Ten days ago, Flynn wrote a letter to the local representative of the group informing him that the group and its supporters would be obliged to remove their sashes before receiving Communion.
In the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, however, a representative of Roger Cardinal Mahoney took the initiative and wrote to the Rainbow Sash Movement, assuring them that there would be no change to existing policy where homosexual activists have been allowed to receive the Eucharist sacrilegiously. The archdiocesan statement did not directly address the question of whether protestors were welcome to receive Communion while wearing their sashes. "As in the past, members of the Rainbow Sash Movement who come to the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels (the Cathedral) this Sunday will be most welcome to attend any of our Masses."
The group responded with a press release where they praised the "warm welcome" they received Sunday, from the Los Angeles Archdiocese. Seeing no further need to protest in a region where their goals are already largely met, the protesters removed their sashes. The press release said, "because of this warm welcome members decided not to wear their Rainbow Sashes."
Faithful Catholics writing in to Open Book expressed their frustration with the misrepresentation of the issue by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. "Colleen" wrote, "The arch(diocese) of LA statement really irks me because it persists in putting forward this fake argument that actively homosexual people are not welcome in the Catholic Church and that is just completely false. Every baptized Catholic and in fact any person, even a non Catholic, is welcome at any Catholic parish Mass at anytime."
Colleen pointed out that the real issue is being avoided. "Anyone living in a state of mortal sin needs to refrain from taking Holy Communion without first attending Confession and having the sincere wish to turn away from sin."
In Rochester, those wearing the sashes were resisted at first by some Catholic parishioners. The release said, "Eventually the Rainbow Sash Members received communion with the support of fellow parishioners." No statement has been issued by the Rochester diocese.
A first hand account came from who attended the Mass at the Cathedral of the St. Paul-Minneapolis Archdiocese. The commenter, who is not named, said that well over a hundred protesters came and disrupted the Mass and refused to remove their sashes. All those wearing the sash were refused Communion, as well as those who were wearing rainbow pins or ribbons.
(Note that an "EMHC" is an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion, a lay person delegated by a priest in an emergency to distribute Communion.) "A few decided to take (Communion) themselves anyway by swiping it out of the EMHC's plate as they went by after being blessed by the priests instead... and one decided that they should be the EMHC to the Sashers, swiping a Host somehow and breaking it up into pieces to give to other Sashers -- stopped quickly, and the Sacrament rescued, by our deacon)."
The commenter went on to describe the disturbance that the protest created at the high Cathedral Mass on one of Christianity's holiest days. "Honestly, the tension felt by all regarding the presence of the Rainbow Sashers (who were making comments all the way up the Communion lines and waving at people as they went by) overshadowed much of the Mass itself. Particularly for those of us who were seated near enough to see and hear the Communion line (and see the irreverence towards the Eucharist... one person without a Sash received and then turned and handed the Host to a Sasher behind her, who immediately ate it before anyone could do anything."
Read the extensive coverage and commentary at Amy Welborn's weblog, Open Book: http://amywelborn.typepad.com/openbook/2005/05/rai...
I'm not Catholic, but somehow I don't think stolen communion counts.
1) reinstall altar rails
2) only the priest touches the the consecrated host
3) communion only received on the tongue
Just a suggestion.
I still stick to my belief that the Rainbow Sashers are not Gay Catholics but Gay Activists
Nope. Spreads infections.
I believe replacements for these three Birds and their supports will be in office in th enear future. Pope Benedict XVI will not allow this to continue. Posts in Rome cleaning the Catacombs and repenting will be offered or defrocking.
Catholics believe that when the communion host is consecrated by a priest it actually becomes the Body of Our Lord, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. It remains such as long as the accidents remain. That is why this is horrific to Catholics. Satanists will actually steal consecrated hosts for the purpose of desecrating the body of Our Lord.
How so?
The priest places the host on the tongue, then touches the next host, etc. Viruses are spread from hands very easily.
When done correctly the priests hand never touches the tongue.
Common use of the chalice is IMO much more hazardous.
Well...some people (such as myself) still receive on the tongue, even though most everyone else takes it by hand, so...I suppose the infection is going to get passed anyway.
Bring back the altar rails and these disruptions won't happen without a whole heck of a lot more difficulty.
Regards,
Bingo!
He never touches the tongue with this hand, but I see your point.
Viruses are spread from hands very easily.
Exactly. Communion in the hand, by the priest or "Eucharistic minister" have much more hand to hand frequent contact, so the chance of infection is multiplied significantly.
It counts. It counts against them. Remember what Paul wrote on the subject.
........as sin.
Thanks for the ping, murphE!
Also, as one enables a sinner to sin, so too are they a sinnner.
How?
Did I miss something? When did he make this declaration?
An expectation for a revival of Sacred Tradition by the occupant of the Chair of Peter is akin to an expectation of snowfall in Rio de Janeiro.
My lying eyes watched as Joseph Ratzinger distributed The Body of Christ into the hands of those approaching him at his NO Mas instillation.
How would you respond to my Post # 18.
Definitely. And they're the very people who protest the most about the separation of church and state as they continue to drag their secular issues through the church door.
The Host is the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity. The Presence is Real and they desecrated It.
What spreads infection recieving on the tongue?
It is horrific to Protestants too. Of course, the person who will suffer the most horrible consequences is the desecrator himself, who by consuming without belief "eats...damnation unto himself".
God is not mocked.
Oh it counts, all right ... as desecration, sacrilege, and blasphemy.
I haven't heard that silly canard since the 1970s. Swine Flu, anyone?
That's why all Catholics from previous centuries are dead now. ;-)
If you see the location in the future, please post it to this thread. This holy priest should hear from us.
ROFL!!!
**Colleen pointed out that the real issue is being avoided. "Anyone living in a state of mortal sin needs to refrain from taking Holy Communion without first attending Confession and having the sincere wish to turn away from sin."**
Looks like you have a twin in LA! LOL!
No, that poster 'Colleen' on 'open book' was me! I like 'open book' a lot.
A Catholic person with same sex attraction living (or attempting to live)a celibate life could be defined as a gay catholic. A gay activist is one who wants the Catholic church to validate his lifestyle, and pushes for it, because he doesn't want to think of his lifestyle as sinful, even though it is.
I use gay as a synomym for person with same sex attraction.
The New Pope appears to be making some stratigic changes in the diocese, it was rant or hope that he will make significant changes in LA too!!
Sorry I didn't clear this with you first your Holiness!
1) reinstall altar rails
2) only the priest touches the the consecrated host
3) communion only received on the tongue
Just a suggestion.
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.
The very real threat of virus and bacteria spread is by dozens of folks drinking from the same cup, after a minor swipe of a cloth. Talk about saliva to mouth contact...
The communion on the tongue health "threat" issue is a big duck (e.g. cannard).
Why the cheap shot?
Amen!!!
It would follow that one attempting to avoid sin would not stand with sinners, I would prefer to avoid hyphenated Catholicism. I do I go out of my way to declare my obvious gender preference. I am gay Roman Catholic in the traditional sense of the word 'gay' ( before it was perverted to describe those attracted to the sin of sodomy ); a sin God Almighty condemned.
Thus, it is absolutely inappropriate to judge another Roman Catholic a homosexual or heterosexual Catholic, as no God fearing Roman Catholic would publicly confess he or she has the inclination to be an adulterer Catholic, or a sodomite Catholic.
God forgive us our trespasses.
Your post just sounded so condescending. My apologies.
They noted on the bottom of screen ( running like a ticker-tape ) on CNN TV. It was said to be 150 denied Holy Communion. I'd like to post it as a separate thread, if it's ok with you.
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