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My Pregnant Wife II: Unexpected issue in the Culture War - Circumcision.
Immient Arrival ^ | 19 May 2005 | Gobucks

Posted on 05/19/2005 5:39:11 PM PDT by gobucks

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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Its only silly to the ignorant circumcised, who have no idea what they are missing.

Or it is you that don't know what your missing.

61 posted on 05/19/2005 7:59:38 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: cyborg

It isn't barbaric, it is hygenic. Think of your future daughters-in-law and their reproductive health. Yeah, a greater risk of cervical cancer is a good thing so son can think he has a longer prong.

I have three sons all of whom are circumcisied.


62 posted on 05/19/2005 8:00:10 PM PDT by annyokie ("Guess what. I got a fever...and the only prescription...is more cowbell.")
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
The six countries with the highest rates of AIDS are Zimbabwe, Congo, Malawi, Kenya, Chad, and the US - all circumcising nations, and with AIDS rates of 16 to 97 per 100,000. OTOH, non-circumcising nations like Japan, the nordic Countries, and Germany, have AIDS rates of 0.2 to 2.2 per 100,000.

Riiiiiight. Compare the US and a handful of Third-World countries with industrialized nations. That's not comparing apples & oranges.
63 posted on 05/19/2005 8:00:35 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: gobucks
"I want him to look like his Daddy" is what Mrs. Gb said.

Say what? Someone's going to be comparing his dick with yours? Give me a break.

My take? If you're not a Jew, it's a religious obligation, and not done by a medical doctor. For a Christian, there's no religious obligation. None.

64 posted on 05/19/2005 8:01:34 PM PDT by Lee N. Field
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

So let Mrs. Hermann share her opinion so you can smack her later.


65 posted on 05/19/2005 8:01:50 PM PDT by annyokie ("Guess what. I got a fever...and the only prescription...is more cowbell.")
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
circumcision does anything for a male except make him more susceptible to venereal diseases and deviant sexual practices like anal sex.

Herman you are way out there my friend.

How in the world does circumcision make one more likely to perform anal sex or contract venereal diseases?

66 posted on 05/19/2005 8:02:40 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: TheWriterTX
While I appreciate your concern, this is very different from a simple retraction problem; this is the inside of the foreskin fusing to the penis and making retraction impossible. When it was first detected at age 18 months, the foreskin has fused to the lower half of the head of the penis.

Again, the reason for the fusion is probably that you and your doctors should have just left the foreskin alone. It is not meant to be retracted until well past age 5, and certainly not at 18 months. The male penis just does not work that way at that age. Attempting to retract it will cause phismosis, or fusion if you will, as the scars on the glans and foreskin from the forcible retraction fuse together in attempting to heal.

As to regretting it, I have two neighbors who had to undergo circumcisions later in life (on at age 12 and one at age 48) due to infections.

More idiot doctors. What other human organ is commonly amputated due to infection? In Europe and Asia, they treat such infections with anti-biotics and bathing. In America, we are subject to quacks.

They both regretted NOT having it done as babies.

Because it hurts like hell having it done as an adult! Duh!

Which of your sexual organs would you "enjoy" having cut off?

67 posted on 05/19/2005 8:02:41 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker



Then take my valid opinion, an uncircumcised man is not as clean, doesn't feel as hard during sex and is not as pleasing as a cut man. jmo as a woman who's been there and done that.


68 posted on 05/19/2005 8:02:49 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

A major factor in cervical cancer is human papilloma virus AKA venereal warts. Of course Orthodox Jewish women(or any women for that matter) would have a lower rate of cervical cancer if the husbands are faithful.


69 posted on 05/19/2005 8:03:23 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: annyokie

"So let Mrs. Hermann share her opinion so you can smack her later"


I think I just cracked a rib!!! LOLOL!


70 posted on 05/19/2005 8:03:31 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: annyokie

Not enough evidence for that.


71 posted on 05/19/2005 8:03:52 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Or it is you that don't know what your missing.

All I have to do to experience "circumcised sex" is roll back the foreskin. It will naturally pin itself behind the glans and stay there.

72 posted on 05/19/2005 8:04:06 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Leapfrog
Please see Galatians 5:1 to understand the tone of the reference you provided, or indeed the rest of the book.

You claimed to be unable to remember what Galatians said, and than actually claimed you could not find any relevant references in Galatians (relevant to a thread on circumcision) -- any now you're telling me what I need to do to understand the passage you claimed not to know existed.

Amazing.

How about if I ask Moses to ask you to circumcise your heart? What will you make of that?

I would think you were babbling.

You can't ask Moses anything. He's dead, you know.

73 posted on 05/19/2005 8:04:18 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Tell me how his son will regret it forever.

I think it would also be interesting to know the percentage of American men who are circumcised.

Arioch7 out.

74 posted on 05/19/2005 8:06:30 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: annyokie
Yeah, a greater risk of cervical cancer is a good thing so son can think he has a longer prong.

You will find there is zero medical evidence indicating this.

"In the first edition of this book, I cited evidence that cancer of the uterine cervix ... was primarily a disease of partners of uncircumcised males. In the intervening years, however, cervical cancer has been more firmly related to multiple sex partners ... A recent study found evidence of veneral warts in 73 of 80 women who had cervical cancer. Thus, it seems that cervical cancer is, for the most part, a result of veneral disease." (Dr. S.I. McMillen, "None of These Diseases", p. 81, Second Edition, 1984) Cervical cancer rates are higher in the US than in non-circumcising nations such as Sweden and Norway.

75 posted on 05/19/2005 8:08:26 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: MRMEAN
That is pretty harsh.
76 posted on 05/19/2005 8:09:20 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: hispanichoosier

Explain then, the US's extraordinarily high AIDS rate (10 times the rate in Norway, and 80 times the rate in Japan).

The US AIDS rate is totally off the chart compared to every other industrialized nation, none of whom practice routine circumcision.


77 posted on 05/19/2005 8:09:54 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: cyborg

BS. I have a number of friends who are OB-GYNs who side with me on this. If you want to think that alternative medicine is the *in* thing, that's okay. Post a peer review and we'll talk.


78 posted on 05/19/2005 8:13:35 PM PDT by annyokie ("Guess what. I got a fever...and the only prescription...is more cowbell.")
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To: PFKEY

The circumcised penis is more likely to bleed during intercourse because of tautness of the penile skin and the presence of the circumcision scar. It is also more likely to rub the vagina raw or abraid it and make it bleed because it acts to evacuate vaginal fluid during thrusting (hnce the need of so many Americans for KY Jelly and other lubricants that no other industrialized nation needs except for homosexual anal sex). Veneral diseases require blood-to-blood contact.

Anal sex is much more difficult with an uncircumcised penis because it has a larger diameter due to the foreskin's presence, and the tendency of the foreskin to become painfully caught up in that orrifice (not speaking here from personal experience at all - yeech!, but from medical literature)


79 posted on 05/19/2005 8:13:43 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: cyborg
Man, I have my Thursday Poker game and come home for a few brews and see this topic up for discussion.

I'm lit enough to comment on it.

I typed a bunch of stuff but I deleted it as it was a rant.

I'm confused, I thought circumcision was the norm.

On the Poker game... I won, I always win. :D

Arioch7 out.

80 posted on 05/19/2005 8:13:43 PM PDT by Arioch7
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