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Gratitude to The Lord Who Frees Us From Fear of Death (Pope's general audience)
Vatican Information Service ^ | May 25, 2005 | Vatican Information Service

Posted on 05/25/2005 7:48:08 AM PDT by ELS

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To: johnb838
Very High Church Anglicans DO celebrate Corpus Christi with processions and the whole works.


St. Mary the Virgin, NYC.


Grace Church, Pittsburgh

(You can tell they are Episcopalians by the vestments on the Deacon. Catholic deacons wear the dalmatic also, but traditionally with very narrow vertical stripes and no cross-piece appliqued across the chest. If they do have a cross-piece it's narrow and often two instead of one.)

41 posted on 05/25/2005 11:51:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: johnb838

P.S. . . . as a Liturgical Mentor I'm something of a Loose Cannon (or Canon) . . . I'm pretty up to date on Episcopalian practice in the South and in High Anglican parishes, but we're still working on learning the ins and outs of Catholic practice. . . . < g >


42 posted on 05/25/2005 11:52:46 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Interesting. I did not know they did that, though it is not surprising. If it's found in the Catholic church, you can usually find it in the Episcopal Church somewhere.

No matter how High Anglican though, it still looks like they're dressing up and playing church to me.


43 posted on 05/25/2005 12:33:51 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: johnb838
No matter how High Anglican though, it still looks like they're dressing up and playing church to me.

That's what it felt like for us, and when we tried to talk to people about the crisis, the response was, "I don't want to talk about it. I don't want my Sunday worship to be ruined."

44 posted on 05/25/2005 12:43:36 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina

Well, it's been a month since I left the choir and not a person has called or emailed to see how I'm doing. I got up and left in the middle of a rehearsal because I was sick of the choirmasters complaining and b!tching and bullying. He's been taking the choir more and more professional, and the church has been on a building spree and just crammed a new phase down the congregation's throat. So, I feel like, if they're going to a professional choir they don't need me. And if they have the money for a professional choir, they certainly don't need my little pittance.

Besides I'm sick of my contributions going to support huggy-bear up there in NY and the anal-sacrament (ouch, hurts to write that) in NH. I write that because he publicly stated that anal sex, sex with his adulterous, unnatural, sodomite partner was akin to a sacrament to him.

But, I didn't mean to be passive aggressive about the whole deal, but the fact that nobody has bothered to check up on me means nobody gave a poop about me there anyway, so i won't be looking back.

Onward into the Fullness of the Faith!


45 posted on 05/25/2005 12:53:49 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: Pyro7480

Nice picture! Thanks for posting it!


46 posted on 05/25/2005 12:56:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: Salvation
St. Jerome has Psalm 9 in two parts, with Psalmus X secundum Hebraeos before "Ut quid,Domine, recessisti longe" (which follows v. 20 or 21 [St. Jerome numbers a descriptive line as v. 1]), but the verse numbering starts again as 1, and the next Psalm is numbered 10. Thereafter, all the numbering is one off from the Hebrew/Protestant.
47 posted on 05/25/2005 12:58:28 PM PDT by maryz
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To: johnb838
We sure could use you in our choir! (We always need more men!) Our choirmaster is trying to bring the musical level of the choir up, but he's very sensitive about it and is trying to do right.

That is a shame though -- when we left our church I got a nice letter from our former choirmaster and several notes and Emails from fellow members.

48 posted on 05/25/2005 12:58:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Carolina
The Episcopalians/Anglicans Coverdale Psalter is now Catholic, my dear, courtesy of The Book of Divine Worship of the Roman Catholics of the Anglican Use in the USA. The BDW contains Coverdale's Psalter as well as the Psalter from the 1979 ECUSA Book of Common Prayer.
49 posted on 05/25/2005 1:04:27 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan
Very true! Sadly, we haven't got one around here. I don't think our sole remaining High church in Atlanta has enough members to start an AU parish.

(Wish they'd used the '28 exclusively instead of adding bits from the '79.)

50 posted on 05/25/2005 1:05:51 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: ELS
This is my favourite Psalm above all other psalms. It speaks to my heart, mind, soul, past, present, and future.

Thank you for posting it in the Douay and in the exquisite Vulgate version.

51 posted on 05/25/2005 1:05:57 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I would think that there are enough former Episcopalians among Catholics in metro Atlanta to start an AU parish. But it would take vision, an priest with a great gift for starting from scratch, and the full support of the Archbishop.


52 posted on 05/25/2005 1:08:07 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: ELS

When I looked up Psalm 115 on the USCCB site, it was something completely different. This is the same -- translation differing.

Did you read it?


53 posted on 05/25/2005 1:08:15 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: johnb838
Onward into the Fullness of the Faith!

Have you started RCIA, then?

54 posted on 05/25/2005 1:11:18 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for that info.


55 posted on 05/25/2005 1:11:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; ELS

Confusing to say the least.


56 posted on 05/25/2005 1:14:15 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Siobhan
Before the Irish conference (and before the elevation of Benedict XVI) the local chancery was VERY cagey when I called them.

Since B-16 when Cardinal Ratzinger sent a letter on his own hook directly to the orthodox bishops at Plano, things may be looking up.

Problem is, the vast majority of the former Episcopalians in THIS area are evangelical/charismatic/"low church". Very few "crypto-Catholics", "ultramontane", whatever you want to call what we used to be (hey, we were weird.) Diocese of Atlanta is traditionally very low church.

57 posted on 05/25/2005 1:19:03 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: johnb838
He's been taking the choir more and more professional.

Besides I'm sick of my contributions going to support huggy-bear up there in NY and the anal-sacrament (ouch, hurts to write that) in NH.

I find this strangely funny. It's sort of a stereotype (at least in my mind) that Episcopalians are a) have amazing choirs, and b) have become, in the words of National Review's John Derbyshire, "a dating service for homosexuals".

Ironically, the openly (as in flaming) gay guy in my office sings (very professionally, I might add) in his Episcopal church's choir. But I did enjoy his choir's performance of Mozart's Requiem last March.

58 posted on 05/25/2005 1:27:02 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal

Oh, they've pushed two open homosexual men onto the vestry in the last two years. The rector has wondered from the pulpit why he can bless their animals but not their unions. His name is James Nutter.

I may be too self-focused but I've felt cut off and marginalized for a while and I've wondered if I've been too open about my arch-conservative positions to the wrong people. Free Republic has tended to make me more not less believing in the maxim "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."

My new church choir was recently the only outside-Vatican choir to sing one of the 9 vigil masses for the Great John Paul II, (gives me goose bumps of awe to type THAT!). I don't even think THEY fully comprehend what a big deal that was. I mean, to them of course it was huge, they were right in the middle of it. But could they imagine people like me following it on FR and EWTN hour after hour, day after day? Billions of people. Sancto, presto!

They are all amateur singers.


59 posted on 05/25/2005 1:51:16 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: GipperGal

That is so cute!


60 posted on 05/25/2005 3:23:28 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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