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Cardinal says Priests will marry
The Scotsman ^ | 5/26/2005

Posted on 05/25/2005 10:35:49 PM PDT by sinkspur

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To: Petronski

God gave us the Old Testament by way of Israel. God used the RCC to canonize the Bible. God spoke to Balaam by way of a donkey.

God uses whomever and whatever pleases Him. The mere fact that they are used by Him does not endow them with any justification or right to boast.

Sorry I wasn't clearer about it earlier.


362 posted on 06/01/2005 11:21:33 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

Jesus Christ founded the Roman Catholic Church.


363 posted on 06/01/2005 11:23:51 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: GipperGal
Was this question ever resolved?

Good question. I don't think it was resolved, unless some conclusion can be drawn from sinky's silence.

364 posted on 06/01/2005 11:25:03 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: newgeezer
What are you doing on this thread? Do you see Catholics jumping onto your protestant threads and hijacking the conversation? Go pretend that Pastor Billy Bob from whatever fruitcake nondenominational church you belong to has all the answers. Feel free to believe that the bible was dropped from heaven into the hands of Martin Luther. Go tell all your friends at your bible study that the "papists" are going to hell. Go do all of this. But please just go!
365 posted on 06/01/2005 11:29:45 AM PDT by GipperGal
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To: BlackElk
I will ping whom I lease.

Of course. I didn't say or imply otherwise. The point is, you're just trying to impress them. From what I've seen, it's working. You and they are feeding your flesh. Likewise, I've also been guilty of letting mine get the better of me.

This thread is about the misbehavior of a Roman Catholic cardinal in Scotland and, in case I neglected to say so, therefore none of your anti-Catholic bidness.

Oh, I was under the impression this thread was a discussion of (among other things) what is or is not any of my business, and/or where I am (not) allowed to post. At least, it sure seems that's what you've been posting about.

Oh, and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS which I am likely to continue posting until you take the hint and get some manners.

Manners? Precisely how am I not minding my own business? Am I not allowed to reply to those (including yourself) who post TO me?

Because, as I recall, I made exactly THREE posts in this thread where it was not a case of my replying to someone who posted to me, #225 (complimenting a friend), #227 (countering the "if it weren't for the RCC" line), and #236 (commenting on your assertion that there can be such a thing as an "uninvited trespass" on this public forum). Anyone with even the slightest amount of objectivity can see how every one of those subjects was either personal enough or broad enough to have been MY business.

After those three, all of my other posts have been replies to posts addressed TO me, and most if not all of those have been to reply to your incessant and ridiculous demands to "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS."

Thus, I trust you can see the facts show that I have been minding my own business throughout my participation on this thread.

366 posted on 06/01/2005 11:31:48 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: seamole
If you limit "church" to merely include the liturgical services proper to the Lord's Day, then you are missing the point of "church". Clearly, 1 Peter 2:5,9 uses priest and sacrifice to refer to the Church.

Well yes, as I've said all along, we are all priests. But never once does the bible talk about a Priesthood as the Catholics have established. You have made a priesthood within a priesthood. Surely you knew this was what I was talking about since I've said it about 10 times.

367 posted on 06/01/2005 11:33:19 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: GipperGal

Thanks for your thoughtful response.

As long as your friends continue to engage me in conversation, I'll probably hang around.


368 posted on 06/01/2005 11:34:53 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: seamole
To add another layer is still to demote what each one of us is.

That's why the layer is called presbuteros and not hiereus in the Greek, presbyter and not sacerdos in the Latin, and priest and not...priest...in the English. You see where the problem is?

The only layers I see are Elders/bishops then everyone else and each and everyone at both layers is a "royal priest". But I don't see an additional layer of priests at all, as I've stated.

369 posted on 06/01/2005 11:38:22 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: GipperGal; BlackElk
please just go!

Well, hold it...

We are called to witness our Christian faith to apostates and unbelievers. It is indeed inconvenient to deal with obnoxious posters who do not come here to learn, but to disrupt. At the same time, one clear answer should be given to clear questions they pose, even if they themselves have no intention to comprehend or even acknowledge the answer. Often what they ask on the thread, many readers ask inwardly, and for their benefit we should respond.

There is also a tactic used by anti-Catholics, and generally by those who do not have the intellectual upper hand in a dispute. That tactic is to create grounds for a complaint that the Catholics (in this case) want to stick to themselves and shun debate. Let us not play into their hands.

370 posted on 06/01/2005 11:38:44 AM PDT by annalex
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To: seamole
It was Christ Himself who restricted the audience at the Last Supper to the Twelve. It was to the Twelve that Jesus said, "do this". Whether the Mass is sacrificial or not does not change the fact that the Twelve were set apart for service distinct from the rest of the disciples.

Yes they were very special. So special that there are 12 foundations in the New Jerusalem with their names on them. So special that they have almost nothing to do with the conversation about the Catholic Priesthood.

371 posted on 06/01/2005 11:41:30 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: annalex
Well, okay. But to paraphrase Rabbi Shmuley, these posters are ignorant peasants. They have no intention of engaging in an intelligent dialogue. Look at the discussion so far. It's like you're arguing physics with 3-year-olds.
372 posted on 06/01/2005 11:44:13 AM PDT by GipperGal
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To: seamole

By the way, regarding my last post, it is interesting to note that there is no mention of any popes or of the seat of pope or the seat if vicar of Christ there in Revelation. The 12 foundations are the 12 apostles only. It's really as if it were just the 12 with no successors isn't it? Actually there is no mention of any successors anywhere in the bible only a verse about a rock which is more than just a little arguably the profession and not the person. But I'm drifting off topic.


373 posted on 06/01/2005 11:44:22 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: newgeezer; Petronski
As it stands, you're coming across as just another puffed-up smart-aleck.

TEXTBOOK projection case.

374 posted on 06/01/2005 11:48:54 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Petronski
I don't think it was resolved, unless some conclusion can be drawn from sinky's silence.

Silence indeed. I suppose we can't infer guilt from that alone, but if someone accused me of impersonating a member of the clergy, I sure would answer the charge.

375 posted on 06/01/2005 11:49:25 AM PDT by GipperGal
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To: BlackElk
newgeezer has problems with Jews

Where did this come from? All I said about Israel ("Jews" if you insist) is that (1) God used Israel for His good purpose and (2) Israel is an enemy of the gospel (that's from the Bible).

(Now he tries to label me an anti-Semite. It gets sillier with each passing hour.)

376 posted on 06/01/2005 11:50:11 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: ninenot

LOL


That case is good enough for the COVER of the textbook. ;O)


377 posted on 06/01/2005 11:50:49 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: ninenot

I know you'd like to think so.


378 posted on 06/01/2005 11:50:52 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer; BlackElk
Now he tries to label me an anti-Semite.

Well, if it'll make you feel any better, I don't think you're an anti-Semite; I just think you're a fool.

379 posted on 06/01/2005 11:52:19 AM PDT by GipperGal
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To: C2ShiningC

Have fun reading this thread.


380 posted on 06/01/2005 11:54:44 AM PDT by GipperGal
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