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Decision Time for Mainline Lutherans
The Christian Century ^ | August 09, 2005 | John Dart

Posted on 08/02/2005 10:54:57 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

The nation's largest Lutheran denomination will finally speak with a collective voice this month on whether to allow gay and lesbian pastors and on whether same-sex couples may receive rites of blessing. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, whose biennial Churchwide Assembly meets August 8-14 in Orlando, is one of the last mainline church bodies to act on the controversies. Few figure that the ELCA's debates will end in Orlando.

Preconvention estimates are that it is unlikely two-thirds of the 1,000 delegates—the required margin for approval—will vote to open pulpits to gay pastors, despite a proposal by ELCA leaders that "exceptions" could be created "for the sake of outreach, ministry and the commitment to continuing dialogue."

A second proposal, which needs only a bare majority to pass, says that ELCA policy should bar blessings for couples in same-sex relationships in keeping with a 1993 pastoral letter from ELCA bishops saying that no basis can be found in scripture for such rites.

However, some conservatives complain that the rest of that resolution could be viewed as permitting informal blessings. The proposal asks members to "trust pastors and congregations to discern ways to provide faithful pastoral care to same-sex couples."

The efforts by ELCA leaders to address gay issues falls short of what legions of Lutherans on the left and right say they expect of the denomination. Traditionalists are looking for policies that clamp down on sporadic, unauthorized ordinations of openly gay clergy. Progressives contend that faithful, nonheterosexual Christians are discriminated against when they are denied full and equal opportunities in the church.

The nearly 5-million-member ELCA, created in 1987 from a three-way church merger, has eluded convention showdowns over homosexuality that have occupied its mainline counterparts for years. The United Methodist Church and the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) have repeatedly declined over decades to allow ordination of noncelibate homosexuals. Gay activists and their supporters in those churches vow not to abandon the fight.

Meanwhile, the more liberal Episcopal Church and United Church of Christ have made some bold changes. Many in those churches put today's churchgoing gays and lesbians in a different category from the people condemned in biblical texts. However, Episcopal traditionalists look to overseas Anglicans for support in resisting the changes, and UCC conservatives find succor in congregational autonomy and "renewal" movements.

The mainline convention disputes over homosexuality typically feature demonstrations or picketing and conservative threats to withhold funds or exit the church—but also, at times, cordial discussion and prayerful reconciliation.

So what's next for the ELCA?

"Lutherans are traditionally shy, but when push comes to shove they value healthy relationships above all," says the hot-selling Lutheran Handbook, a sometimes whimsical guide published by Augsburg Fortress this year. "Conflict should be viewed as an opportunity to grow, not a contest for domination," advises the handbook, which went into its fifth printing last month.

When the ELCA Task Force on Human Sexuality announced its findings in January, the panel emphasized that it took a "pastoral approach" for the sake of outreach and ongoing dialogue. But the task force was criticized for recommending that the church may "choose to refrain" from punishing congregations for calling as pastors otherwise qualified gay or lesbian candidates.

"It was not well-received," said Stanley Olson, executive director of the ELCA Division for Ministry. "It was perceived as too nebulous."

The approach was recast in April by the 37-member Church Council, which acts as a board of directors between biennial assemblies. The council proposed that instead of withholding disciplinary actions, the church "may permit exceptions to the expectations regarding sexual conduct for gay or lesbian candidates . . . in life-long, committed and faithful same-sex relationships."

The ELCA standard says pastors must be married to someone of the opposite sex or be celibate if single. Under the exception, a premium would be placed on a homosexual minister's "evidence of intent" to live in a faithful partnership.

The ELCA already makes occasional exceptions on ordinations. Normally, a seminary graduate cannot be ordained unless a congregation invites him or her to be a pastor and the minister serves at least three years in pastoral ministry. Exceptions are sometimes made for graduates who have special opportunities in missions, teaching or administration, officials say.

Barbara R. Rossing, associate professor of New Testament at the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago, said that the "exceptions" route "was a brilliant way to go because I think it claims the middle."

In April, Rossing and faculty colleague Ralph W. Klein coauthored a short statement supporting the task force recommendations and getting 63 signatures from those they called "teaching theologians." The statement, now endorsed by more than 100 signers, said the task force recommendations "represent a much-needed and faithful compromise for this moment in the life of the church."

The Klein-Rossing statement took issue with an earlier statement signed by 17 theologians—including Carl E. Braaten, William G. Rusch, William H. Lazareth and Robert W. Jenson—who rejected the task force recommendations on ecclesiastical, pastoral and theological grounds.

The 17 said the task force "advocates a fundamental shift in policy" that would harm the church as "an effective collaborator" with the Lutheran World Federation and would sow "division and disunity at the local level."

One of the 17, Robert Benne of Roanoke College in Salem, Virginia, writing in the July issue of The Lutheran magazine, criticized the recommendation as rewritten by the Church Council.

By allowing exceptions, the proposal "bows to those who believe traditional teaching should be revised," wrote Benne. "It uses the acceptance of divorced and remarried clergy as a parallel to the acceptance of partnered gay clergy . . . a dubious analogy because divorced clergy don't argue that divorce is right and therefore keep divorcing."

Proponents of accepting gays in ministry commonly note that while the churches have found ways to allow divorce and remarriage, despite Jesus' words to the contrary, the same churches resist change on homosexuality, an issue not addressed by Jesus.

Some of the rationale used in April by the Church Council resembled arguments in a joint proposal issued in March by bishops Paul Rogness of St. Paul, Minnesota, and Steven L. Ullestad of Iowa. While there are many in the ELCA, perhaps a majority, who believe homosexual activity is always a sin, the two bishops wrote, there are Lutherans, lay and ordained, "who believe we are at a time in history where we have come to know that homosexuality is a condition, not a choice, but simply a given that is often discovered as a person grows."

To Jeff Johnson, the openly gay pastor of the University Lutheran Chapel at the University of California at Berkeley, "the trajectory of the church is clearly moving in a progressive direction."

His bishop, David G. Mullen, has chosen not to remove at least 13 openly gay, lesbian or bisexual pastors serving in the Sierra Pacific Synod, said Johnson, who cochairs Good Soil, a Lutheran gay alliance. "The current policy of the church really serves no one," Johnson said.

"The progressive wing is frustrated and unsatisfied because the policies intimidate a class of people unjustly," he said. "The conservative wing is frustrated because the policies are inconsistently followed or ignored."

The seven-day assembly in Florida "will decide whether the ELCA fragments in a serious fashion or not," said Roy A. Harrisville III of St. Paul, executive director of the conservative Solid Rock Lutherans group.

"This is our Gene Robinson moment," said Harrisville, referring to turmoil in Anglican churches created in 2003 by the Episcopal Church's approval of the election of a gay man as Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apostasy; ecusa; elca; homosexualagenda; lutheran; protestant; religiousleft
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To: biblewonk
sarcasm accepted.

But I reconcile it like this...its better to still have people led to the Lord under a woman's tutelage rather than send them to hell.
41 posted on 08/02/2005 1:06:05 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Redleg Duke
It is lost on you.

Well, stupid me.

Your antipithy for Lady Pastors is what I was referring to.

Surely you know what Paul wrote (on behalf of God, the Holy Spirit) about women's roles in the church. Thus, the irony. See?

43 posted on 08/02/2005 1:07:49 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things)
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To: wallcrawlr; biblewonk
its better to still have people led to the Lord under a woman's tutelage rather than send them to hell.

Likewise, one could say it's better to still have people led to the Lord under a sodomite's tutelage rather than send them to hell.

Right?

44 posted on 08/02/2005 1:11:11 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things)
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To: newgeezer; wallcrawlr

Actually, it's better to become a sodomite than send someone to hell, right!? After all we are the ones with the power to send people to hell...right. //more sarcasm//


45 posted on 08/02/2005 1:13:59 PM PDT by biblewonk (They are not gods which are made with hands. PS we need socialized medicine.)
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To: newgeezer

No.

You may see homo's and women as equals but I dont.


We disagree.


46 posted on 08/02/2005 1:14:09 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: biblewonk

excuse my language:


it should read as...knowing they are going to hell and we do nothing about it.

are you that cold? or is the sarcasm just extra heavy today?


47 posted on 08/02/2005 1:15:42 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: wallcrawlr; newgeezer
Chick-pastors are entirely acceptable by me...especially when men aint man enough to step up and lead.

If the men in your church don't know enough to be offended by having a female pastor, run away from that church. It's completely luke warm if not altogether dead.

49 posted on 08/02/2005 1:17:21 PM PDT by biblewonk (They are not gods which are made with hands. PS we need socialized medicine.)
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To: wallcrawlr
In 1995, the ELCA Board of Pensions offered abortion benefit choices to ELCA Church Council, noting the ELCA's public position against abortion in their Social Statement on Abortion. Council chose abortion-on-demand up to 20 weeks for ELCA insureds. In 1997, the Churchwide Assembly knocked down an attempt to limit this abortion benefit. Many are unaware of this one, too.

http://www.elca.org/co/news/96/archive/briefs3.html
http://www.elca.org/socialstatements/abortion/
http://www.wfn.org/1997/08/msg00159.html
50 posted on 08/02/2005 1:18:51 PM PDT by polymuser
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To: wallcrawlr
You may see homo's and women as equals but I dont.

I don't.

On a very similar note, I'll point out that you may deem God's Word outdated and thus irrelevant in regard to who is and who is not qualified for church leadership. But, I don't.

51 posted on 08/02/2005 1:19:34 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things)
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To: RebelBanker

I found that I had to leave my elca church earlier this year. I could no longer stomach the far left direction it was taking. I joined my wife in the Roman Catholic church and have found a home there.


52 posted on 08/02/2005 1:22:14 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
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To: Honorary Serb
The Orthodox are relatively immune at this time because I suspect that they have escaped the notice of those trying to undermine Christianity in the West.
53 posted on 08/02/2005 1:31:09 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: wallcrawlr; SandRat
I don't like this primarily because our troop meets at a Lutheran church and I am holding a merit badge fair at another Lutheran church in the fall.

How will this affect their support for the Boy Scouts?

54 posted on 08/02/2005 1:31:47 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: redgolum
The Orthodox are relatively immune at this time

so far.

55 posted on 08/02/2005 1:33:01 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
How will this affect their support for the Boy Scouts?

Perhaps just as importantly, if the measure passes, how would that affect the Boy Scouts and/or your support (tacit approval) of the ELCA? In other words, would you have any qualms today about holding your regular meetings at an Episcopal Church?

56 posted on 08/02/2005 1:36:07 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things)
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To: biblewonk

I do not go to a church with a woman pastor, I choose to find one without actually.

But I will not condemn the work done by God through other Christians...whether male or female.


57 posted on 08/02/2005 1:39:40 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: biblewonk
"Outside" of what? That denomination or Christianity?

Oh sorry, outside of any denomination that would consider ordaining either.

58 posted on 08/02/2005 1:40:26 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: wallcrawlr
I'm interested to to know how you stay away from this garbage. The homo agenda certainly has afflicted most churches. They have had to make a decision on it.

In the Orthodox Church, we consider the decision as having already been made. As a matter of fact, you can read about the Council that decided this in Acts 15. St. Paul did do some excellent follow-up on the matter as well.

59 posted on 08/02/2005 1:43:07 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: newgeezer
Dont be a jackass with your condescending tone.

I know what God ordains according to women pastors/leaders/positions of authority in the church.

I'm fully aware that I may burn in hell for believing what I do...I'm willing to take that chance.
60 posted on 08/02/2005 1:45:02 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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