Skip to comments.Decision Time for Mainline Lutherans
Posted on 08/02/2005 10:54:57 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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Indeed, everytime I hear of some leftist trashing the moral stance of the Roman Catholic Church, I realize we'd be on their list as well if they knew we existed (hardly our fault that leftists are rather limited in their worldview).
I will in a heartbeat. The bible is very clear about some things. Otherwise, why condemn the work done by gay pastors and married gay couples. They can serve the Lord too can't they?
PS, said work is not done by God.
I think having ROCOR back in the fold will help keep us on the correct path.
In my experience, I've met a few Catholics and ELCA Lutherans feeling comfortable switching between the two...so I dont find that too odd.
Its good you recognized the path your old church was on and jumped ship.
Two big-time feminazi Roman Catholic "theologians":
Elisabeth Schüssler Fiorenza (Harvard Divinity School)
The late Catherine Mowry LaCugna
(I'm not counting such apostates as the WITCH Mary Daly!)
As for practicing Roman Catholic priests who are pastors of parishes who openly advocate "gay" ordination, I know of several in my blue-state area, since their advocacy of this deviation from orthodoxy made the press. Unfortunately, there are all too many "gay" Roman Catholic priests who are not open about their "sexuality", but have come to the attention of the world via the "sex scandal".
The Orthodox are under attack by "Axios" and otherwise, as well as by the general liberal "elite" who talk about "Orthodox bigots". And Soros is pushing the gaysbian/feminazi agenda in the Orthodox homelands of Eastern Europe. Moreover, I know of one Orthodox church in my hyper-liberal area that is all too "gay-friendly" for my taste, despite the anti-"gay" pronouncements of the bishops of this parish's church body. Nevertheless, the Orthodox are virtually immune to gaysbian and feminazi attacks.
I dont understand how you equate homo's with women?
You need to make that link for me because I dont see them as the same.
I can not discuss things under your premise because i dont agree with it.
Condemning Christians though...you would discredit the work done by women pastors? You think what they do is evil or something? Again, this is not something I understand.
I see the work being done....you see the work being done by a girl. Ive gotten past the girl part (because of the reasons stated earlier), you havent. I am not convicted by scripture on this point, you are.
Is that the difference?
I would check again on that. Some diocese will honor it, and those that don't have a simple ceremony to afirm you marriage in the church. Trust me you will not be abused at all, you will be welcomed.
LOL. When I responded with the same tone that I perceived in your message to me, you resort to namecalling; I'm a "jackass"! Good one.
By the way, I enjoyed what your profile page says about graciousness.
I know what God ordains according to women pastors/leaders/positions of authority in the church.
However, you seem to have little or no problem if people choose to ignore it; it's just a matter of preference? Interesting. I'm always curious to know how some people decide something's a preference vs. a command.
I'm fully aware that I may burn in hell for believing what I do...I'm willing to take that chance.
Maybe you forgot a sarcasm tag there. Maybe not. Maybe it was meant to be condescending.
...said by a man judging Gods work.
are you putting God in a box?
that was an interesting followup post.
Of course, I'm rather amused at the stories "Axios" has put out about the Orthodox Church in Long Beach, CA.
When the new priest was told by the men in the choir that they were all gay (the former priest was a very old man from the old country who apparently was oblivious to the situation), his response was to excommunicate the entire bunch. This apparently happened some years back but they're still incredulous that the priest did it and the bishop fully supported the action.
Well you assumed wrong and perceived incorrectly. We can call that an error of the internet and let it go.
That is graciousness with non-christians...and I am not some week Christian that lays over while my cheeks are slapped so welcome to my world.
Yes, that is a curious issue. People are different, Christians are different.
Also, that is not sarcasm and that is not condescending.
Absolutely and absolutely. If scripture doesn't convict you on this issue, I wonder what other issues it doesn't convict you on. Should openly gay people be allowed to participate in church or should they be kicked out. Should pastors/elders be allowed to be divorced and still be pastors/elders? Should Elders/Church take a stand on abortion?
Methodists have a bumper sticker that says "You are entering a hatefree zone". They substitute biblical judgement, which we are told to exercise, with the word hate? Is there anything wrong with this practice or are we just too hatefull to pay attention to the bible on things like this?
It's interesting that the bishop of the Southeast Michigan Synod (second only to Hanson's home St. Paul Area Synod in pushing the left's agenda), who's been quite vocal in those issues, is apparently about to accept a call to pastorship in a New York congregation (per the website of a SEMI synod church, searchable). SEMI synod's website has a new URL and is conveniently 'under construction' as Orlando looms. Maybe he doesn't savor the thought of having to swing the axe in a 'Connecticut Six' style situation that he helped create in the ELCA.
This issue first:
You stated the work is not from God.
I found it interesting that you could state what he can/can not do through people.
I'm quite sure that they will try. However, Jesus pretty much assured us that it would so we're not exactly afraid.
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