Well, I guess we have our answer. It would appear that wallcrawlr... um, 'didn't mean it' when he said he'd give it his all.
I did enjoy reading the thread you set up to discuss verse; very interesting. I happen to agree that women should not be pastors. The man should be the spiritual head of household at home, and the same should hold true for the church family. But I enjoyed seeing the varying opinions and reasons for the opinions. But remind me to never disagree with you ;)
Have you been keeping an eye on the threads discussing the upcoming ELCA vote in Orlando?