Posted on 08/14/2005 9:31:12 AM PDT by BulldogCatholic
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Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation
(taken from the Pastoral Manual, 1997 edition, Diocese of Rockville Centre)
Sunday is the day on which the paschal mystery is celebrated in light of the apostolic tradition and is to be observed as the foremost holy day of obligation in the universal Church. Also to be observed are the day of the Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Epiphany, the Ascension and the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ, Holy Mary Mother of God and her Immaculate Conception and Assumption, Saint Joseph, the Apostles Saints Peter and Paul, and finally, All Saints (canon 1246, §1).
United States: Holydays of Obligation
1. Christmas (December 25) 2. Ascension (Thursday of the Sixth Week of Easter) 3. Mary Mother of God (January 1) 4. Immaculate Conception (December 8) 5. Assumption (August 15) 6. All Saints (November 1)
Special Norm for the United States
1. When a holyday of obligation falls on a Monday or a Saturday, the obligation to participate in the Eucharist is abrogated. The three holydays affected are:
a) January 1, Mary Mother of God b) August 15, Assumption c) November 1, All Saints
2. Note that these days remain “holydays,” solemnities. Even though there is no obligation to participate in the Eucharist, ritual Masses (e.g., Funeral Masses) may not be celebrated. The texts and readings are from the liturgy of the solemnity.
3. Holydays not affected:
a) Ascension Thursday b) Immaculate Conception (national feastday in the USA) c) Christmas
**You know, you can still go to Church, even if you aren't obligated to do so...**
And I am sure many will. I know I will.
**I'd also like to see civil holidays observed on their appropriate dates,**
Me too!
God
Family
Country
Work
Other things
Somehow that order that I learned has gotten skewed, hasn't it.
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'fraid I don't follow you.
We in the RCC celebrated the 13th Sunday after Pentacost. Where to you reckon 7th Sunday?
Perhaps the Eastern observation?
I think the list now runs:
Work
Other things
Sleep
I am, admittedly, generalizing. Of course there are many exceptions to this (cranky) analysis :-).
As a non-Catholic could someone please explain to me why the rules of the Catholic keep changing. As far as I know the church is susposed to be based on the teachings of the Bible and the Bible has not changed in 2000 years.
There's a difference between non-doctrinal traditions, like holy days of obligation, and doctrinal traditions, like the Trinity. The first is important, but not as important as the second.
Father would love having all of you at Mass! He calls the parents with small children, reminding them of the need to bring the kids to church so they can get to know their God, throughout the year, not just on Holy Days. He is very patient with the smallest children who love to dash up the aisles during Mass. Alas the parents are embarrased and stop coming.
Didn't people once have their lives - religious celebrations, entertaining, political activism - in the home, church, and community, and go to their workplace to earn a living?
Absolutely! That was back in the days of the Blue Laws - nothing could be sold on Sunday. It was truly a day of rest!
At the risk of sounding like some conspiratorial twit, TV had a profound effect on life. Advertising promotions prompted the demand for extended shopping hours. As electronics began to proliferate, so did the demand for faster and better means of communication. Now we "buy and sell" 24/7 365 days a year. (Believe it or not, there was a time not that long ago when supermarkets and shops closed on Christmas and Easter).
The Church has always ackowledged that many rules of observance are man-made laws, just as the laws of the United States are, and are just as subject to change. Faith and morals do not change, but rules of practice may.
Our pastor is very welcoming to children; it's others in the congregation that can be exclusive.
I used to take my kids to daily Mass back in Oklahoma ... back when I only had 3 or 4 kids, and they had daily Mass at 5:00 p.m. (after school and naps, before supper :-). The old people were always nice. Once my Tom walked right up to the altar during the Eucharistic prayer and said, "Father! Look at my new brown shoes! Do you like me?" and Father said, "Of course I like you, Tom. Great shoes. Now go back and sit down!"
That warms my heart. God bless your Tom for ever and always! And God bless that warm-hearted priest.
Tom's 8 now, and plans to be Pope, unless he's martyred first ... he says he's going to be a missionary to Iraq! He's always been very intense.
This is one of the reasons I really dislike the "changing" of holy days to the nearest Sunday or some other day that fits the schedule of the secular world.
If we lose the concept that the life of the Church is special and its calendar - with feasts and fasts and special events that have nothing to do with commercial interests - is unimportant, we've handed a big victory to the secularists.
I think the tendency in the modern Church to drop all mention of the Saints and their feast days is also a big mistake. Once upon a time, even in this country, people used to know their name's day (feast of the saint for whom they were named). Now, of course, people don't even seem to be required to give their kids saints' names - I mean, when is the feast day for "St. Ashlee"?
VatII somehow got it all backwards. While this is not in the official documents, the "reforms" that came out of the Council in practice certainly eliminated this sense of the sacred and the reality of the invisible world. Time to bring it back, and restoring certain aspects of practice - REAL holy days of obligation, a requirement to pick the name of a saint for your child, the inclusion of the feasts of the saints in the weekly bulletin, etc. - might help.
BTW, somebody from another diocese here in Florida told me that her grandchildren were the only ones to pick saints' names at their Confirmation! The priest told them to pick the name of somebody they liked. Some kids picked the names of friends or family members or even movie stars.
My dear, I am going to pray for your Tom every day. I don't say that lightly. I mean that with my whole heart.
Thank you so much, Siobhan! His picture is on my profile page, the boy in the red shirt.
Because of "aggiornamento", Vatican II and a slew of Modernists who are bent on her destruction.
No other faith has changed as much these past 40 years, Our defense used to be our faith, traditions, and our unity, Vatican II and the liberals have done away with that in the name of ecumenism and lay participation (as they feared the Protestants hence the reason our New Mass mimics the mass of Luther in so many ways).
The 4 marks of the church are gone, as well as the sacraments as they have been changed as well. Baptism no longer has anything to do with original sin but is a "welcoming of one" into the christian community. Priestly ordinations were changed in 1968 as were the very words used to consecrate our Lords body and make it "the Lords Supper" instead of "the sacrifice of the Mass"
This is why many who know of these changes, done overnight and really, with no offense to those who are Protestant, dont want to be Protestant and the Novus Ordo is trying to make us be (hence the reason why they joined the WCC which was started by the Protestants and the change of the mass in 1970 done overnight) and those that want to still be Catholic attend the Traditional Mass and WILL go to mass today as it IS a Holy day in the Traditional societies.
We can only pray for our fallen away Novus Ordo brethered that they realize that they are being led down a slippery slope that even to outsiders such as the Orthodox and Protestants and even Jewish friends of mine they cant quite understand what has happened to the New Church of the Novus Ordo
Trolling>? For what? Novus Ordo supporters who are embarrased that their Bishops and the Pope no longer require and or allow you to:
Fast 3 hours before mass
Kneel to receive the sacred species
Allow all kinds of liturgical dancing and music
Allow communion in the hand from a "minister"
Worship "eachother" instead of God
Partake in the "Lords Supper" and not "The Sacrifice of the Mass"
Dress however you please (shorts, flip flops, immodest midriffs showing, etc)
Hold hands, clap, sing whatever during the "Pater Noster"
Altar girls
Now because a holy day falls before or after a Sunday, as long as you attend Mass on the sunday that "counts"!
Retranslated the bible "The NAB" to make it "politically correct"
Allow 60,000 annulments a year!
Hate anything pre-Vatican II
The question I always pose to those who throw the accusation around about the NO mass being valid or invalid is a simple analogy, and I note you have placed much emphasis on the Bishops, and it is as follows:
If the Pope or for that matter tomorrow told you that he (she? soon to be?) told you to that Buddah had much to offer and as at Fatima where JPII allowed the Hindus to worship, your diocese as well as most other dioceses except for maybe 10% of the church's (which will still allow your Novus Ordo Mass but with "modifications") and you were to start incorporating some of the ways hindus, etc worship into your liturgy (and the Bishop can do what they want as we all know)...what would you do?
That is the same question that many Traditional Catholics were faced with after Vatican II and in the past 40 years. We have been told that we must worship like Protestants, only we are still going to call ourselves Catholics. No-you may have been able to sell that "obedience" line to the cafeteria catholics and the Kerry supporters who are Catholics (some 50% of catholics voted for the Pro abortion Kerry as well as Clinton). But it does not work on those that are real "Catholics" as handed down from the Apostles.
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