Posted on 08/27/2005 8:24:10 PM PDT by Bush2004
During the homily at Mass today, our new priest was preaching about being "counter-culture" (what that had to do with the readings is beyond me), and said that he admires parents of gays and lesbians.
I was so astonished that he would expose pre-adolescent children to the concept of homosexuality that I had to walk out with our three kids. It's against everything I was always taught, and against Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality by the Pontifical Council for the Family (which says that homosexuality should not be addressed with children who are not adolescents - age of innocence).
Plus, I immediately thought that he was telling my kids that if they wanted their priest to admire my husband and I, then they should become homosexuals.
Am I wrong in doing this? I value the opinions of my fellow FReepers on this. Does anyone have useful suggestions on how to deal with this priest?
Call your bishop
Call your bishop
I would send a note to the Bishop and ask if he is aware of the kind of things this priest is teaching.
I would also change churches. It's better to drive a few extra miles, than to belong to a church headed by a priest who is not following the Church's teachings.
not at all.
I want to fight him, so his filthy indoctrination doesn't harm anybody else.
Awesome. You did the right thing.
Let's hope he hasn't been exposing other things to pre-adolescent children.
Sounds like a creepy thing to bring up. My personal experience as a kid was that I never listened to what the priest was saying anyway... of course our church was huge and had a bad sound system.
Thanks. I'll start the process of getting in contact with him about this tomorrow. There are certain channels that prove most effective.
He is probably getting ready to come out of the closet himself.
Have the men of the village exercise him. Else maybe one of the pinged has a suggestion.
I spent the remainder of Mass praying for him.
Don't post personal vanities to news, don't ever post personal religious stuff to news, and call your Bishop and complain.
(I returned with the kids after his homily was done.)
The priest is probably a fag himself.
Tack up on the front door:
The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality by the Pontifical Council for the Family
I heard tonight from a friend that he is/was good friends with a former archbishop who is a known homosexual.
I want him OUT!
I'm sure you weren't alone in your reaction. There's power in numbers. Take action.
A few years ago, a visiting priest started off Mission Week by saying "I'm a FEMINIST"!! It ws all I could do not to flee!! When I told the pastor, he said "So what".....Yikes.....I guess every big organization has some really bad apples.
Exactly the reason for the vast majority of church splits and differences over the approximately 2000 year history of the church - teaching/preaching that varies from the Word of God.
It sounds to me that Satan has found an open door into your church. Time to exit with your family and all others who CARE if the Truth is what's taught in the church.
A reasonable suspicion. Fr. Paul Shanley was one of the founders of NAMBLA, and several of the priests caught up in the sex abuse scandals had ties with Dignity.
One of Rembert Weakland's friends, eh?
let me guess, you're in the Milwaukee diocese? If so, my deepest sympathies.
I would like to say I am shocked.... but I am not.
"...They are just men and women, that's all..."
Men and women who are sinners, as we all are... Great post, Hitman...
You have mail!
I dialogued him about another homily that offended us--he was talking about the evil in the Catholic Church and how the priests sexually abused children and the sexual predators in the State---another subject I felt did not need to be explicitly addressed during a church homily. Our parish is very young with hundreds of young children. He replied that I would not convince him that his homily was inappropriate and that he felt it was important to talk about sex during church.
I frankly think that talking to him would yield the same beating head against brick wall result. No matter what documents I bring to back up my position, he'll just ignore them and do what he referred to as a matter of his "personal choice." (he omits the penitential rite because he just doesn't feel like including it)
I did the same thing about seven years ago at my Catholic Church when the priest was preaching BS on another topic and doing a Michael Moore immitation. But instead of just walking out, I yelled out that "this is supposed to be a church, not a political talk show."
At least one other family walked out also. I have yet to be back at church since then, except for two cousins who got married and that was at different Catholic churches in different cities.
I have no plans of ever going back to church again.
GTFO out of that "Church" right now.
The best church is your own conscience, no one needs an "organized religion"
Would kinda put it like this:
Jesus had real problems with the organized religions of his day.
Thats why they killed him....
I'm just interested to know your response...as a Christian.
There is an email for the Pope here somewhere. I'm just not finding it today.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/index.htm
What diocese are you in?
"...A reasonable suspicion. Fr. Paul Shanley was one of the founders of NAMBLA, and several of the priests caught up in the sex abuse scandals had ties with Dignity...
Absolutely, I mean hell, he may even be a rapist, or even a serial killer as well... And, I'll guarantee you he has boatload of unpaid parking tickets as well, No Doubt!! ///sarcasm now off
Pope JP II (God rest his soul) spoke as a pacifist, and spoke against the War in Iraq. Could that be considered a Micheal Moore-esque mantra? I guess it depends on the ears it falls upon.
Could this be transferred to the Religion forum?
You are very smart to figure that out. He still includes Weakland during the eucharistic prayer (where we pray for the current pope and archbishop).
I was told tonight that he worked very closely with R.W. as a proponent of a sexual eduction program for 6th, 7th and 8th graders, which ended up on a segment of Frontline in 1985? and brought much criticism to R.W., which resulted in abandoning that particular sex-ed program. Anybody remember that Frontline or have access to it?
lol, he might not be coming out like you are expecting. I'd be disgusted too.
If THAT is the case, PLEASE take me OFF your ping list.
I frankly think that talking to him would yield the same beating head against brick wall result."
It will. The SOB has an agenda.
Thanks. All I posted to, I thought, was culture/current events. How can I just post to religion?
Your pastor may wear a pink collar himself. At the very least you can bet he went to seminary with outspoken homosexuals.
Pray for a cleansing.
Though the priest be an idiot (and a few are) in the end we worship Jesus alone, sometimes in spite of the officiants.
Educate yourself and find a real Catholic Church with a holy priest (they do exist). The Real Presence is worth suffering for, this priest you speak of made you suffer, offer it up. Don't use this as an excuse. Pray with all of us.
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