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Prelate Says Gays Shouldn't Be Ordained
AP ^ | 9/12/5 | RACHEL ZOLL

Posted on 09/12/2005 1:04:00 PM PDT by SmithL

The American prelate overseeing a sweeping Vatican evaluation of every seminary in the United States told a weekly newspaper that men with "strong homosexual inclinations" should not be enrolled, even if they have remained celibate for years.

Archbishop Edwin O'Brien made the comments to the National Catholic Register newspaper as Roman Catholics await word of a much-anticipated Vatican document on whether homosexuals should be barred from the priesthood. O'Brien and several other U.S. bishops have said they expect that document to be released soon.

"I think anyone who has engaged in homosexual activity, or has strong homosexual inclinations, would be best not to apply to a seminary and not to be accepted into a seminary," O'Brien told the independent newspaper. He said that even gays who have been celibate for a decade or more should not be admitted, the Register reported in its Sept. 4-10 edition.

O'Brien, who leads the Archdiocese for the Military Services in Washington, declined through an assistant Monday to comment to The Associated Press.

The Vatican ordered the seminary review three years ago in response to the clergy sex abuse crisis to look for anything that contributed to the scandal, which has led to more than 11,000 abuse claims in the last five decades. The evaluation is set to begin later this month and much of the focus is expected to be on sexuality, including what seminarians are taught about maintaining their vow of celibacy.

The Vatican agency overseeing the evaluation — the Congregation for Catholic Education — is also reportedly drawing up guidelines for accepting candidates for the priesthood that could address the question of homosexual seminarians. The church considers gay relationships "intrinsically disordered."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: gayordination

1 posted on 09/12/2005 1:04:01 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
I don't see why the matter needs to be studied. This was a foundational principle of seminary admissions policy before the 1960s.

If Damiano could brief Leo IX on this matter in 1049, why does O'Brien need to brief Benedict XVI in 2005?

Just decree it formally all over again and be done with it.

2 posted on 09/12/2005 1:09:58 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: SmithL
Bishop O'Brien was viewed by some as too status quo to take a hard look at the seminaries.

Of course the seminaries -- or a lot of them anyway -- have already been cleaned up a great deal in the past 20 years.

3 posted on 09/12/2005 1:49:50 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I'm marrying a woman before they make gay marriage mandatory!)
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Arch-


4 posted on 09/12/2005 1:51:35 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I'm marrying a woman before they make gay marriage mandatory!)
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To: wideawake

Nihil Obstat: Auburn Tiger


5 posted on 09/12/2005 2:27:51 PM PDT by auburntiger (Socialism is Tyranny disguised as Benevolence.)
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To: SmithL
Bishop O'Brien seems to understand Rule One.

Good.

Now make sure that all diocesan vocations directors, and seminary rectors also understand it and ABIDE BY IT.

6 posted on 09/12/2005 2:38:08 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SmithL

So when will they remove the gay priests that are ordained now?


7 posted on 09/12/2005 3:04:47 PM PDT by Angelas
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To: SmithL

He is correct; they should not be ordained.


8 posted on 09/12/2005 3:11:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: SmithL

Good on him! Now make it stick.


9 posted on 09/12/2005 3:39:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: SmithL
The Vatican ordered the seminary review three years ago in response to the clergy sex abuse crisis to look for anything that contributed to the scandal, which has led to more than 11,000 abuse claims in the last five decades.

It seems that this is symptomatic of a Church that will not enforce Church discipline on those living in sin or defying Church practice.  Church discipline is not moving priests or bishops that are living in open sin, or cordoning such behavior, to another parish or assignment.  Church discipline is not permitting politicians that defy Church practice or Scriptural teachings to be members in good standing.  Scripture is clear that these people should be given the due process of Matthew 18 and if they persist and there in no repentance and obedience, then the sinning believer is to be rebuked publicly and disfellowshipped.  The Roman Catholic Church has reaped the fruits of disobedience to these Scriptural prescriptions.

10 posted on 09/12/2005 4:47:24 PM PDT by gscc
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To: SmithL

BTTT!

Pray for this purification!


11 posted on 09/12/2005 4:53:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: gscc; NYer; Pyro7480; Salvation; Maeve; AnAmericanMother; bornacatholic; ArrogantBustard
"It seems that this is symptomatic of a Church that will not enforce Church discipline on those living in sin or defying Church practice. Church discipline is not moving priests or bishops that are living in open sin, or cordoning such behavior, to another parish or assignment. Church discipline is not permitting politicians that defy Church practice or Scriptural teachings to be members in good standing. Scripture is clear that these people should be given the due process of Matthew 18 and if they persist and there in no repentance and obedience, then the sinning believer is to be rebuked publicly and disfellowshipped. The Roman Catholic Church has reaped the fruits of disobedience to these Scriptural prescriptions."

GSCC - what you wrote above is almost identical in wording (and identical in stance) of my pastor's homily on Labor Day weekend Sunday! Right on!
12 posted on 09/13/2005 5:22:49 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Amen!

(p.s. . . . thought you might like one of these, I've ordered one . . . )


13 posted on 09/13/2005 5:38:06 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

LOL!! Great shirt!


14 posted on 09/13/2005 9:47:37 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud

Ideal for lifting in a seminary!!


15 posted on 09/13/2005 12:12:01 PM PDT by Wessex
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To: Wessex
Not any more!

Three cheers for BXVI!

16 posted on 09/13/2005 7:08:10 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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