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Did Jesus Bless Homosexuality?
Concerned Women for America ^ | 11/1/05 | Warren Throckmorton, PhD

Posted on 11/01/2005 8:03:22 PM PST by tuesday afternoon

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To: magisterium

Look, I think that we're saying the same thing. I agree with you as my sarcastic comment was meant to convey the idea that it "DOESN'T MATTER that Jesus isn't quoted directly addressing this issue."


21 posted on 11/02/2005 11:03:29 AM PST by Smedley
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To: tuesday afternoon

Those claiming Jesus never had anything to say about homosexuality always omit his repeated references to Sodom and Gomorrah as examples of what awaits those who do not repent. Matthew 10:15, Matthew 11:23-24, Luke 10:12, Luke 17:29.

The apostle Peter, who no doubt heard Jesus' teaching, says virtually the same thing in one of his epistles. 2 Peter 2:5-7

And no, Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for the sin of "inhospitality." Everyone in Jesus' time knew what Sodom and Gomorrah were about:

". . .Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire." Jude 1:7


22 posted on 11/02/2005 11:21:46 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Dan Lacey

Dennis Prager

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html#

Has a good exposition. It seems that Moses was the original "homophobe."because a new sexual morality based on heterosexuality was part and parcel of worship of Yahweh, a sexless god altogether different from the bisexual gods of the Canaanites and Egyptions.


23 posted on 11/02/2005 11:44:46 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Gamecock

What it does is to reject the Bible as a revelation, the acceptance of which is to enter into a covenent with God altogether different from the gods of Egypt and Babylon.


24 posted on 11/02/2005 11:47:41 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: HitmanNY
Wait and see, coming soon is some 'scholar' that will insist there is evidence that Jesus performed same-sex marriages!

The latest argument making the rounds in the LGBT community is along the following lines: "Jesus, when he accepted St. Veronica's veil, didn't first ask her if she was a Lesbian, ergo, charity, not homosexuality was the most important thing to Jesus. Therefore, there's no question He would have approved of gay marriage"

25 posted on 11/02/2005 1:35:46 PM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: RobbyS
When discussing various aspects of religious matters with some antireligous folks I know, who insist there is some tacit racism in the bible, I like the looks in their faces when I bring up the fact that there is scriptural evidence that Moses married a black woman, an Ethiopian ('Kushite').
26 posted on 11/02/2005 1:52:08 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Antioch

Doesn't surprise me.


27 posted on 11/02/2005 2:02:37 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Antioch

Doesn't surprise me.


28 posted on 11/02/2005 2:02:53 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: tuesday afternoon

Let me guess the authors "orientation" .


29 posted on 11/02/2005 2:46:34 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: RobbyS
Among the consequences of the unchanneled sex drive is the sexualization of everything — including religion. A super analysis by Mr. Prager. Thanks for sending it to me.
30 posted on 11/02/2005 7:35:52 PM PST by Dan Lacey
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To: Dan Lacey

I found it quite revealing. Ironic that the first "homophobe" was Moses.


31 posted on 11/02/2005 8:07:32 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: magisterium

Liberals, gay activists, and feminists seem to have a problem with Paul. In general, they seem to think that Jesus is an OK guy that would be a pleasant comrade for toking up with. Paul is seen by them as, well, you or I might be, only more so. Paul hijacked Christianity and totally distorted it for 2000 years. According to them.


32 posted on 11/03/2005 12:44:21 PM PST by chesley
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To: chesley

Quite true. Perhaps we can use this to shoehorn them into irrelevancy. If they *won't* accept St. Paul's writings as canonical Scripture, then they are heretics. If they are heretics, then they can simply be totally ignored in the same way that a Hindu pontificating to Christians about the canon of Scripture can be ignored.

Let's prepare them for their potential sendoff with the words of Joshua 24:15, "Choose this day whom you will serve..."

When they have left (of their own choice) then no one, however squishy, will need to cater to them and feel constrained to make concessions. Then perhaps we can get on with the retroactively needed catechesis of the multitude.


33 posted on 11/03/2005 2:19:30 PM PST by magisterium
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To: tuesday afternoon

The direct answer to the question in the headline is "NO!".


34 posted on 11/03/2005 2:20:24 PM PST by Whitewasher (Would u like America to be a goat nation in the millennium to come? Keep pushing the "Roadmap" bull!)
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To: magisterium
The problem is, they won't leave. Look at the Epicopal church. Notice how they want to come to an "understanding", how they want want for us to be "inclusive". Oh, and remember to send your tithes and offerings.

Just part of the liberal's "long March" through the institutions.
35 posted on 11/03/2005 6:08:09 PM PST by chesley
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To: chesley

Well, it might not be easy to throw 'em all out individually, in the literal sense. But, if Church leaders would simply realize that these people, by (among other things) excising St. Paul from the scriptural canon, have excised themselves from the Body of Christ, they may yet see that they do not have to appease and coddle them, and can get on with authentically ministering to the rest of their flock.


36 posted on 11/03/2005 7:39:50 PM PST by magisterium
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To: tuesday afternoon; DirtyHarryY2K

Later pingout!! (whoever gets to it first; I know you're busy and if I can't do it tonight I'll do it tomorrow.)


37 posted on 11/03/2005 7:43:49 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: magisterium

I think it a good plan. Now we only need the church leaders (lay & clerical) to make it work.


38 posted on 11/03/2005 9:10:28 PM PST by chesley
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To: tuesday afternoon; EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Throckmorton is always good.

Freepmail me and DirtyHarryY2K if you want on/off this pinglist.


39 posted on 11/03/2005 11:33:29 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: magisterium
Bottom-line: it DOESN'T MATTER that Jesus isn't quoted directly addressing this issue. Other parts of the NT (not to mention several instances in the OT) DO specifically address the matter, and they are ALL the inspired word of God. They adequately address the matter of homosexuality as if Jesus DID specifically condemn it in Gospel quotations of His words.

Christ did not quote specifically all of OT law regarding what God divinely revealed moral but He sure did endorse all it!

New Testament: Sacred Scripture on subject of homosexuality:

  • Matthew 5:1-48

    17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.

    18 Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.

    19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever obeys and teaches these commandments will be called greatest in the kingdom of heaven.


40 posted on 11/04/2005 12:22:40 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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