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This has been posted before, but events have made Charles "The Hammer" Martel once again relevant.
1 posted on 11/05/2005 8:39:42 AM PST by thoughtomator
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To: thoughtomator
My father once told me that I was a direct male decendant of Charles Martel (and of Charlamagne). He had just completed an extensive geneology investigation of our family. I don't know if its really true or not, but its kind of cool having him as a (great)n grandpa.
2 posted on 11/05/2005 8:44:38 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: thoughtomator
One thing people don't always realize is that people like Charles Martel and Charlemagne were basically Germans. They were the chieftains of Germanic tribes (the Franks, etc.) that only a few generations earlier had swept south and conquered the Gauls. Charlemagne's real name was Karl. When they took over in southern Europe, they brought in a fresh strength and dynamism that had been lacking in the latter days of the Roman empire, and when they got converted to Christianity, it was the combination of their still-savage culture and their newfound faith that saved Europe when the barbarian Arabs came knocking at the doorstep.

Sadly, I think the Gallic culture eventually combined with the Germanic one to create a new creature, a Frenchman, that had none of the good traits of either culture.

4 posted on 11/05/2005 12:04:07 PM PST by Defiant (Dar al Salaam will exist when the entire world submits to American leadership.)
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geneology ping


5 posted on 11/06/2005 5:16:01 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azad)
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6 posted on 11/16/2005 10:24:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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