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Where Have We Put Him? And what if we acted as if we believed what we believe?
Adoremus ^ | November 2005 | Father W. Roy Floch

Posted on 12/02/2005 9:59:00 AM PST by Petrosius

Bless me, Father, for I have sinned … liturgically … I think. Don’t worry though, it isn’t mortal. For the moment, three items.

Item 1: Recently while conducting a server training session with three boys, as I was helping two practice the washing of hands, the other, behind my back, picked up the glass chalices, put them to his ears and stuck out his tongue at the other two.

Item 2: Recently, in the middle of Mass I found myself thinking, “I could switch back to the Latin liturgy of my childhood parish with no trouble.”

Item 3: Some years ago my fellow classmate and priest voiced this nagging thought: “It would be nice if we acted in the liturgy as if we believed what we believe.”

You might like to know two things. First, yes, the server is still alive and without scars. Second, am I a reactionary crank? I entered the seminary after the eighth grade in 1964, thus I am a creature of the liturgical changes. As they happened, I never thought twice. I was ordained more than 27 years ago, and have served various parishes for 13 years, six years as an Army chaplain, and now more than eight years in two small rural parishes. I have never said Mass in Latin.

I confess that in my first parish assignment in 1977 (I was not ordained but was in charge for a month until the new pastor would arrive), I stopped the second collection, told the people they could receive Communion standing (rather than at the communion rail kneeling as they done had until then), began the Kiss of Peace, and hid the bells. For these sins, and more, I am now sincerely sorry.

The server of Item 1 above has gone to college. His family lived in a large and lovely new home, where I imagine they drink ice water out of crystal glasses at the oak dinner table. For him the glass chalices were just like the dinner water glasses. The padded oak chairs in our sanctuary were just like his dining room furniture.
I did not want a chalice upon ordination, thinking it would be a waste since Communion would be forever under both species and we would need sets. Thinking there is value in the visible, I used glass -- until that server and his ears. We no longer have the crystal or the ceramic set in liturgical colors, but two matching gold-colored metal chalices, and any new sanctuary chairs will be of a nobler wood and design.

That server taught me a liturgical principle. Liturgy is not ordinary. The use of ordinary things in liturgy -- the things people have in their houses, the things moderately well off people can afford -- does not communicate the substance of what is happening. Polyester vestments, banners of felt and burlap, stained glass like that in the expensive doors at hardware megastores -- these things cannot mediate the weight of the sacred. And salad cruets for water and wine? What was I thinking!

Yes, I know God wishes to make the ordinary holy. I know the Church can squander the good in other cultures by imposing, for example, African cultural practices on Indonesians. But that unwitting server was telling me that ordinary things are not good enough when the Church gathers to worship. We want our praise to take the highest form we can muster to show our love for God in Christ. A dandelion will not do for Valentine’s Day, unless you want shock value. (And who can live in permanent shock?) Chalices should be so beautiful that the servers are afraid to touch them. We are not in church to do ordinary things, sit on ordinary furniture, sing ordinary music.

I have one server now, the others graduated. Our communion rail is long gone. This server has no natural sense of a need to genuflect before the Blessed Sacrament. He does not experience a building that defines the universe into sacred and less sacred space. Even the elderly, who complain that people talk too much in church, themselves chat loudly across the pews after daily Mass.

I aggravated the problem a year after I arrived by removing the tabernacle from a niche dating from the ‘60s. But now it is on a small altar located directly behind the main altar and elevated one step -- where the padded oak presidential chair used to be. (I demoted myself. I am not God.) And I have a growing sense of unease at celebrating Mass with my back toward Him, despite “alter Christus” implications in facing the congregation.

Where Did We Go Wrong?
Of all the changes in the celebration of Mass that took place after Vatican II, I believe placing the celebrant and the congregation face to face was the most wide-ranging in its effect. No longer focussed in one direction -- toward God -- clergy and laity have turned inward toward themselves, and experience a crisis in both lay and religious identity and vocation, not to mention the poverty of self-centered music. Seeing each other has not always been a pretty sight, and this has contributed to the lobbing of tomatoes in both directions as power struggles now seem to take up much of our ecclesial energy. We are looking at one another, at the many ministers and musicians, but we are not seeing Him. (I no longer look communicants in the eye but keep my eyes on Him, hoping they will too.) Regarding the priest as “entertainer” may account for the “vocation crisis”.

Changes meant to foster “active participation” are not working. The participation that counts must be internal and spiritual. External action cannot achieve it. “You can lead a horse to water…” I remember the Latin liturgy as highly involving. In order to follow it, you had to pay attention.

The usual explanation given for the increase in Eucharistic devotional practices from the 9th century on is that the Mass became remote from people, causing them to generate these extra-liturgical means for more satisfying religious experience. But what if the “remote” liturgy actually created internal spiritual growth that obtained expression in those devotions, and their sharp decline after the liturgical renewal following Vatican II is the consequence of a desiccated internal spiritual life?

I sense that congregations are now completely attentive to external actions and are personally passive, as if they are in a theater or watching TV hoping the program will be entertaining. When it isn’t entertaining, they walk. In the words of a Lutheran bishop called in to mediate where a pastor’s liturgical practices aggravated some of her congregation, we have forgotten that, “The Liturgy is not for us, it’s for God.”

The Absence of the Presence
The problem, it seems to me, is consistency in choreographing the Presence. My sudden distracting thought that, with great emotional and rational fittingness, I could celebrate the Tridentine rite derives from the disturbing practice of our pretending that He is not in the room while celebrating the “Novus Ordo”. Much of Catholic ritual development of the past seems clear to me if you ask: “How should one act when God is in the room?” If the Blessed Sacrament can be ignored, what is the message we are conveying about the importance of the Presence, a message the children (now adults and parents) have been learning (and teaching) these past decades? We have rendered the Real Presence ritually incredible. We know how hard credibility is to regain.

I am not urging a rapid return to Trent or Latin, but I imagine that in another 500 years we may be celebrating the Eucharist in a form very much like the liturgy I remember from 1957. The latest changes in the GIRM are not for the purpose of sacerdotilization (as some say) but for sacralization.

The liturgy often seems to be at war with itself. After Vatican II came a liturgy that belongs in a hall, not in a sanctuary before the Presence of Christ; though the liturgy of the sanctuary is still there. It sometimes seems that a parish should have two separate places for worship. One for a liturgy without the Blessed Sacrament/tabernacle present. No niches, no side altar tabernacles, no “spaces” off to the left. The other would be a sanctuary with the Presence, and a liturgy completely “oriented” to it. I honestly wonder which “worship space” most people choose?

I wish to register a growing sense of the inconsistency and unsuitability of our ritual celebration, and I confess my own complicity. Ritual poverty is tolerable; ritual inconsistency is not. “It would be nice if in the liturgy we acted as if we believe what we believe”. I often wonder if I am alone in this perception.

After altogether too long, I realize that the Church (which is not priests or laity but the entire Mystical Body of Christ) is smarter than I am. My “liturgical sins” are not mortal but venial because I hope and believe “course corrections” will be made. I take this hope from the priority Pope Pius XII assigned to doctrine over liturgy when he defined the dogma of the Assumption:

... since the liturgy of the Church does not engender the Catholic faith, but rather springs from it, in such a way that the practices of the sacred worship proceed from the Faith as the fruit comes from the tree, it follows that the holy Fathers and the great Doctors, in the homilies and sermons they gave the people on this feast day, did not draw their teaching from the feast itself as from a primary source, but rather they spoke of this doctrine as something already known and accepted by Christ’s faithful. (Munificentissimus Deus 20)

Eventually we will act “as if we believe what we believe” because the faith is true -- and it will triumph.


The Rev. W. Roy Floch is pastor of Sacred Heart, Wilbur, and St. Joseph, Odessa, Washington. He holds a degree in Philosophy from Gonzaga University, an MA in Systematic Theology from the University of St. Michael’s College in Toronto, and a Masters in Applied Spirituality from the University of San Francisco. He attended Mater Cleri Seminary, Colbert, WA and St. Thomas Seminary, Kenmore, WA (both now closed).


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1 posted on 12/02/2005 9:59:01 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
We live our lives as practical atheists.
We profess to be "Christian" but live our lives like atheists.
2 posted on 12/02/2005 10:02:18 AM PST by svcw
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To: Petrosius

GREAT article!


3 posted on 12/02/2005 11:09:24 AM PST by Claud
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To: NYer; BlackElk; ArrogantBustard; Salvation; Pyro7480; wideawake; sitetest; bornacatholic; ...

Ping!


4 posted on 12/02/2005 11:38:10 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Ping!


5 posted on 12/02/2005 11:39:13 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Petrosius; All

ALL RIGHT, THAT TEARS IT!!!!

The moonbats just went too far.

I don't mind it when they attack me, but these pagans JUST ATTACKED MY YOUTH GROUP.

If you got to this website: http://mojowire.blogspot.com/

you will find them comparing the Tennessee Baptist Youth Convention to a gathering of Nazis!!!!

I am asking everyone to FREEP THESE CREEPS!

Post a comment to the Wednesday Nov. 30th post.

Don't flame, but show them how good Christian Freepers handle these things!!!!

PLEASE HELP!!!


6 posted on 12/02/2005 11:40:44 AM PST by TheRobb7 (The American Spirit does not require a federal subsidy.)
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To: TheRobb7

Typical childish behavior from the Left. I learned 7 years ago that they don't believe in the freedoms protected by the First Amendement.


7 posted on 12/02/2005 11:47:29 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Petrosius
picked up the glass chalices

He might want to try investing in real chalices.

8 posted on 12/02/2005 11:47:50 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
He might want to try investing in real chalices.

That is exactly what he did after the incident:

The server of Item 1 above has gone to college. His family lived in a large and lovely new home, where I imagine they drink ice water out of crystal glasses at the oak dinner table. For him the glass chalices were just like the dinner water glasses. The padded oak chairs in our sanctuary were just like his dining room furniture.
I did not want a chalice upon ordination, thinking it would be a waste since Communion would be forever under both species and we would need sets. Thinking there is value in the visible, I used glass -- until that server and his ears. We no longer have the crystal or the ceramic set in liturgical colors, but two matching gold-colored metal chalices, and any new sanctuary chairs will be of a nobler wood and design.

9 posted on 12/02/2005 11:57:05 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Thanks for the Ping!

I'm one of those people who is picky about church music, I like the music to be reverent sounding, theologically appropriate, and singable. So recently I popped for a copy of the Adoremus Organist Edition hymnal, which comes with a CD of with enough music to figure out how to sing the various pieces. I bought it with the idea of maybe getting a few people together who want to learn the traditional music - I don't have the training or skills to be a music director, but I thought maybe some people might like to sing together, and then we'd see where the Lord would take us with it.

It starts with the Order of the mass, in Latin, sung.

I listened to it last night for the first time. It was so beautiful. Not the complete mass, but all the parts that the people should know for sure.

I felt so cheated.

And even the sung mass in English done right is beautiful.

Our priest sings the mass a lot. He doesn't have the greatest singing voice, but he still gets up and does it, and I appreciate him for doing it. If we could just get the music for the Gloria, the Agnus Dei, the Alleluia, and the hymns to be as reverent in sound as that reedy voice singing the mass, it would be a touch of heaven on Earth.

As the liturgy ought to be, for this is where heaven comes to earth to touch and heal our souls, and our hungry souls should thirst to meet with the God who calls us.

Our priest tries. He's replaced the crucifix, the processional cross, the tabernacle, added more statues, all more beautiful than devout than when he arrived. He is directing the building of a church which will show that the person who was in charge wanted a building that clearly marks the sacred space.

One step at a time. But I want it all. Music and liturgy and building and sacred items that all work together to lift up my heart.

Sursum corda should be the most natural of responses when at mass, even when we enter the building and draw near our Lord.

May we draw closer, ever closer to this ideal.


10 posted on 12/02/2005 12:05:53 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sauropod

mark


11 posted on 12/02/2005 12:07:13 PM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I felt so cheated.

And rightly so. This is one of my constant heartbreaks, that I am denied the beautiful and awe inspiring liturgy that the Church calls for and to which I have a right. This is why I respond with disbelief when I hear some bishops say that we cannnot change things now because it might upset the people. Many people will remain upset until some changes are made and we can freely worship according to a liturgy that is clearly a continuation of the Roman Rite.

12 posted on 12/02/2005 12:15:31 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

What I don't understand is the pull to tawdriness or inappropriateness, away from the sacred. Why? Especially why by well-meaning people. Why did they buy into some stupid bill of goods when their hearts should be telling them no?


13 posted on 12/02/2005 12:24:40 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I'm also picky about music and the liturgy. The pastor and other priests at my parish do quite well with the liturgy. The usual cantor at my 7:30 a.m. Sunday Mass has a beautiful baritone voice that is a joy to hear; other cantors at my parish are so-so - too many howling sopranos for my taste! I love old Gregorian chant, Eastern Rite and Eastern Orthodox chant, and the old-time Anglican music as well. My parish has been spared the wreckovation stuff, thankfully. As a Catholic buddy of mine said when he visited my parish about a year ago, "this is what a Catholic church is supposed to look like." Honestly, if they started doing the Mass in Latin with all the old time Catholic chant and music at my parish (even if it was all in Latin), it would not bother me one bit, I'd be delighted! I'm also thankful that "guitar masses", "kumbaya masses", and the rest of that type of modernist sixties-seventies silliness has not happened at my parish. My pastor and the other priests would flog anyone that tried to introduce that type of hooie!

However, when I've travelled......different story, I've been to some places when I've travelled that made me say to myself when it was blessedly over "well, I met my Sunday obligation, and that's about it"! Some of of the "masses" I've endured when I've travelled would curdle vinegar.


14 posted on 12/02/2005 12:27:30 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
I'll be in Alpharetta, Georgia for Midnight Mass at St Brigid Catholic Church,3400 Old Alabama Rd, (678) 393-0060. Last year's N.O. Midnight Mass there was smashing with a wonderful Choir, beautiful hymns, soloists, solemn liturgy, orthodox preaching and an attentive, cooperative, silent, pious, Congregation which was VERY warm to us strangers in their midst. St. Brigid's is a new and beautiful church with the VIP necessities - Verticality, Iconography, and Permanance.

Real Catholics still survive in America and I will be amongst them in less than a month. I wish some periodical would do a story on them.

In fact, the Proddie family I was visiting with is very much looking forward to going back to Midnight Mass with our family this year.

Last year I took them at gunpoint. I thought I owed them that much :)

15 posted on 12/02/2005 2:52:56 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

--- Last year I took them at gunpoint. I thought I owed them that much :)---

LOL!


16 posted on 12/02/2005 3:01:07 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Petrosius
P, how did you lay people ever let this happen? Reading this brings tears to my eyes when I remember the Faith of the old Irish people in my family and my days as a Greek Orthodox boy on the altar of our local Roman Catholic parish at a High Mass! My old Irish people KNEW GOD, every Sunday. They were there with God and His angels and His saints! To this day when I enter an Latin Rite Church I genuflect in the direction of the Tabernacle. I couldn't imagine not doing so as I enter or cross in front of it, no more than I would fail to cross myself upon entering an Orthodox Church or approaching the altar. These stories make me so sad, even realizing that back in those days of the Latin rite sacred space, the Latin Church taught I was damned!
17 posted on 12/02/2005 3:12:51 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: wideawake
My late father served Mass in the 1920's. He assured me that neither he, nor any of the other servers, were ever permitted to touch the chalice.

When they carried it, they were required to carry it veiled, and to only touch the veil.

18 posted on 12/02/2005 3:16:24 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Kolokotronis; Petrosius
I'm not "P", but here's my answer, borrowing from "Animal House":

We F%$#ed Up. We trusted our hierarchy.

I was there (in the '60s and '70s), I saw it happen.

I can go into more detail, but I'll let y'all ponder that, first.

19 posted on 12/02/2005 3:18:07 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kolokotronis
These stories make me so sad, even realizing that back in those days of the Latin rite sacred space, the Latin Church taught I was damned!

No they didn't, unless you were conscious of unrepented grave sin.

20 posted on 12/02/2005 3:18:15 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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