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To: Kolokotronis
didn't impress me as being or having the potential to be in fact Christian monarchs.

This does not go to the argument being made. Surely we don't say that the American system is good when Reagan is president but bad when Carter is, or even that Reagan was necessarily a better Christian than Carter; in some respects it seems that the opposite was true. Likewise, I don't know anyone who says that monarchs are better people than the rest of us. Well, in one aspect they are, in that they were brought up to govern, but this is again a systemic argument.

Put it this way. What is the simplest way to improve the government now? I answer that, as Aquinas would say. Tell every elected politician that the position he currently holds is his for life, unless he chooses to resign it. When he dies or resigns, the position goes to his firstborn, again for life, etc. The mere elimination of the need to sell government services to voters will do wonders to the quality of government we are getting.

29 posted on 12/03/2005 6:56:22 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
While what you say in theory might be true (and I must agree that in the abstract a Christian monarchy looks attractive) the fact is that any governmental system must rely on at least the passive support of the population. The historic monarchies fell because this support was lost. A king, after all, only has as much power as the society grants him, a truth that Charles I and Louis XVI both learned. Even if you are correct, I do not see how in the present age the population would ever agree to the return to monarchy. Modern communications invite the general public to get involved in policies of the state. While a republic may not be the best form of government, it is the best form to which we can reasonably aspire.
30 posted on 12/03/2005 7:43:57 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: annalex

You sound like my Greek relatives!

"The mere elimination of the need to sell government services to voters will do wonders to the quality of government we are getting."

So far as I can see, corruption in monarchial style governments has been as bad, if not worse, than that seen in republics. As for pols selling out to the "interests" who pay the bills, well that's been going on since the Athenians came up with the idea of democracy. In a republic or a constitutional monarchy politicians are either the voice of their constituents or people elected to lead because of their personal qualities. For me, I'll go with Edmund Burke on that one, but the tenor of the times as we see in the actions of virtually all political parties in the West has clearly moved away from the Burkian ideal.

I will say that I do see a use for monarchs beyond being mere tourist attractions. In countries like Bulgaria, Romania, Cambodia and Laos (and Spain some years back), a sovereign can act as a uniting symbol of the nation and all the people as a country struggles to establish a free society. As for established stable countries, well I wouldn;t want to give up my rights in the hope that some sovereign and his barons could do a better job than I and my peers can do.


35 posted on 12/04/2005 4:53:21 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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