Prominent Canadian Priest Claims He's 'Gay', Blasts Vatican on Canadian National Radio

LifeSite ^ | December 6, 2005 | John-Henry Westen

[gidget7]

What attracts them is 1. It's a place to further their agenda, that place being the Church, the Bible, and Christianity as a whole. TO try to force the acceptance at the ultimate opposition.

2. Their is close contact with lots of men, and boys.

There are a few, who have left the lifestyle and found the Lord, however they are no longer homosexual.

[narses]

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[Antoninus]

This is turning out better than expected.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking.

[Antoninus]

What attracts homos to this job?

Satan has wanted to destroy the Church from day one. The plague of homos is just his latest attempt.

[Antoninus]

Living in Montreal, Renshaw oddly says that although he is not permitted to say Mass publicly and hear confessions, he is nonetheless "not censured, not suspended, I'm a religious in good standing.

Apparently, in his mind, lying isn't a sin either.

[spunkets]

" He also noted that his theological formation, which he said he received in Rome, "has never been of the slightest use to me"."

The Pope should borrow Rummy's zot for awhile. Maybe some Freepers could donate some kitties.

[OpusatFR]

I'm pretty ignorant of my own faith sometimes.

If I had to hazard a guess, I suppose that the absolution given which is formulaic, (at least I hope he gave absolution), is given alter Christus. St. Francis was very clear in that Christ acts through even the sinful, unrepentent priest in the Consecration. I can't think that it would be any different in Confession. Although, the sin must be repented for the Confession to be valid.

The truly evil part is that many people, myself included, look to the priest for advice in overcoming a particular sin or a problem in a relationship. How many people left the Confessional perfectly happy because the priest gave them the, "There, there, be at peace," happys?

Any priests on board could clear that up. You raise an interesting situation.

[ArrogantBustard]

You're essentially revisiting the "Donatist Heresy" ... although with some slight differences. The basic claim of the Donatists was that Christians who had shown weakness in the face of Roman persecution (the emperor Diocletian, in particular, IIRC) had lost the ability to perform the Sacraments. Indeed, they seem to have thought that they had even ceased to be Christians, and needed to be re-baptised.

The problems were twofold: 1) the Donatists denied that the Sacraments (Baptism, Holy Orders) effect a permanent change in the person who received them and 2) that the effectiveness of the Sacrament depends on the personal holiness of the minister.

To the contrary, the Church holds that although the Sacrament is visibly performed by the minister, its effectiveness is solely by God's Grace, irrespective of the state of the minister's soul.

To your questions, then. God can forgive our sins any way He wants to. He has given us the Sacrament of Pennance as the ordinary way, but that does not limit Him. I believe that those who went, in good faith and contrition, had their sins forgiven ... what this bugger denied them was the good advice in avoiding sin that can come from a good confessor. Worse, he may have convinced them that sinful behaviour is not sinful ... what effect that may have on them I do not know, but for him to do it is monstrous. (Woe unto those whho call evil 'good' ...)

[polymuser]

"What attracts homos to this job?"

Evil always attacks good. That is its nature.

Bingo.