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To: PetroniusMaximus
Yes, but he didn't perform his first miracle for just anybody.

Paul may have instructed the Ephesians that they have, upon Christ's death and resurrection, been bestowed with spiritual graces(1:3-14) but he nowhere says Epeshians hail, you are full of grace! Nor is he an Archangel of the Lord, a significant distinction. It is Scriptural that Mary is full of grace, a statement not accorded to another woman elsewhere in Scripture, consequently a logical part of Tradition: many important things were not recorded but were known and occurred and held fast to in Tradition, but Mary's grace filled status is scriptural fact. And Paul says there are, for the Ephesians, spiritual grace but he does not go on to say that they are in the fullness of it or what would be the logic of this statement: "For this cause I also, hearing of the fiath in the Lord Jesus which is among you, and of your charity to all the saints, cease not giving thanks for you, making remembrance of you in my prayers, in order that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory may grant you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation unto the full knowledge of himself and enlighten the eyes of your heart to know wwhat is the hope of his calling, that the treasure of the glory of his inheritance among the saints" (1:15-19). In other words, these Ephesians are not there yet, but Paul prays that they may eventually be granted this fullness of grace.

There is no such qualification in the Lukan Narrative: "Hail full of grace the Lord is with thee" She is already full of Grace and with the Lord, whereas the Ephesians are still working on it, working it out, and with Paul's prayer. And Mary knows her place too and states: "henceforth all generations shall call me blessed" Luke 1:48. Paul doesn't say this about himself, or others. Only Mary is allowed this proclamation. And of course, before Mary even allows this about herself, Elizabeth witnesses this for us: "Blessed art thou among all woman" singularly identifying our Lady as alone among all women as, well, singularly blessed. And somehow, while I am sure you are very nice, I think the Church is correct in accepting Elizabeth's testimony, after all she was specially qualified giving birth, as she did, to the man who baptised our Lord. As to Mary's sinlessness, well the tabernacle of the Lord, logically, could never be unclean. V's wife.

21 posted on 12/09/2005 8:42:58 AM PST by ventana
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To: ventana
Dear One, we are all Tabernacles of the Lord when we receive Him into ourselves by faith. He comes and makes his home with us. Just as the baby Jesus had a home in the womb of a fully human, descended-from-Adam woman, so the King and Conquerer Jesus makes his home in us today!

It was similar with the first Tabernacle, the one that Moses built in the wilderness: The Lord came down as smoke and filled the Temple!

1 Corinthians 6:19 (The teaching of the Apostle Paul):
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?

John 14:16-17 (The words of Jesus Christ):
"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you."

May the Word of God be believed! Our souls may magnify the Lord just as Mary's did, for He has chosen to make our bodies His tent in this wilderness until He establishes New Jerusalem! O! God's peace to Jerusalem!
22 posted on 12/09/2005 1:24:59 PM PST by .30Carbine (God is with us, Immanuel!)
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To: ventana
There is no such qualification in the Lukan Narrative: "Hail full of grace the Lord is with thee" She is already full of Grace and with the Lord, whereas the Ephesians are still working on it, working it out, and with Paul's prayer. And Mary knows her place too and states: "henceforth all generations shall call me blessed" Luke 1:48. Paul doesn't say this about himself, or others. Only Mary is allowed this proclamation. And of course, before Mary even allows this about herself, Elizabeth witnesses this for us: "Blessed art thou among all woman" singularly identifying our Lady as alone among all women as, well, singularly blessed. And somehow, while I am sure you are very nice, I think the Church is correct in accepting Elizabeth's testimony, after all she was specially qualified giving birth, as she did, to the man who baptised our Lord. As to Mary's sinlessness, well the tabernacle of the Lord, logically, could never be unclean. V's wife.

That's excellent! I often wondered why +Luke elaborated so on the Blessed Mother, and not +John whose charge she was left in.

25 posted on 12/09/2005 3:57:50 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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