Posted on 12/19/2005 7:19:55 AM PST by laney
"they will never come to Christ unless quickened by the Holy Spirit."
I don't know what kind of theology that is, but it doesn't sound right to me.
It sounds like you're saying people can't choose to become Christians, but must be summoned by one of the other three Persons. That leaves all the incentive on God's side, and relegates any moral choice involved to irrelevancy.
"I believe God made physicals laws as He did, so that stuff will work in a way that we can understand them."
IMV, He structured the laws of physics in such a way as to give us clues as to the laws of the spiritual world. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction; every sin carries consequences. 2+2 can never equal 13; evil can never equal good.
"As an example; many say that God loves us, but others ask, if so, why do we have sickness, death and catastrophes. The general answer I see, is that this is just one of God's mysteries. I believe this is a contradiction."
Sorry to contradict, but no, it isn't.
The best short answer I ever heard was Helen Keller's: "We could never learn to be brave and patient if there were only joy in the world."
It is necessary for us to live in a world where bad things happen to good people in order that we may become what we are supposed to be; that we may become worthy to spend eternity with God.
School can be pretty tortuous for a child, too, but parents require their children to get an education. That doesn't mean parents don't love their children.
Besides, the eyeblink of a person's physical life just isn't all that overwhelmingly important when considered alongside the fate of the immortal soul.
Couldn't find this online - can anyone confirm or deny this?
Absolutely, although it would be in several authors own hands as it was a collaboration by the czarist secret police
Would you be rushing to read it?
certainly, modern history was in part shaped by these documents. Whether for good or ill we are where we are because someone wrote them.
Now let me address your leap in logic between these two documents. The one was created to give justification for pogroms of Jews the other was a 2nd century scroll that was part of some obscure and now extinct religious sect. Your pathetic attempt to link the two falls on its face without even having to breath on it.
everyone can see that.
The discussion you entered was concerning the truth of the content of those spurious documents.
You may try to convince yourself otherwise, but you are only convincing yourself.
You still haven't proven that the documents are spurious this is the second time you used those words without any proof. Frankly it seems more logical to take the word of someone who lived in the second century over some desk jockey who says his way is the only way.
Obviously you came with an anti-Christian agenda, and are acting like a troll.
attacking your opponent because you argument has run out is more along the lines of a troll.
"Your pathetic attempt to link the two falls on its face without even having to breath on it."
Only if one accepts the false assumptions that underly your position. If one rejects those fallacies, one has time to wonder at the historical importance you impute to the "Protocols."
"You do not consider World War Two to be of historical importance?"
I can't wait to see an argument to the effect that "Protocols" caused WWII.
"You still haven't proven that the documents are spurious"
That's 1,800-year-old history. Catch up.
That's 1,800-year-old history. Catch up.
I look forward to your symposium on it.
"I look forward to your symposium on it."
Registration is $1,500 per person.
"Not caused it but they influenced Hitler's plans enough."
Nobody seems to know why Hitler hated the Jews so much, but there's no evidence that "Protocols" was responsible for it. He used whatever suited his purposes.
"That some of them find a home here on Free Republic is even more disturbing."
I'll get disturbed if I see it.
I have been meaning to pick up Chesterton, but I have to plow through a few more books first. That and my wife has told me that I gave up new books for Advent...
Defiantly! But there are also those whose reason has led them to agnosticism.
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