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1 posted on 12/20/2005 7:20:32 PM PST by NYer
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St. Nicholas of Smyrna

2 posted on 12/20/2005 7:25:39 PM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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St. Nicholas was a mythical character

4 posted on 12/20/2005 7:35:45 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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It is interesting to note that only a few cultures refer to the Christmas gift-giver character as St. Nicholas or a derivation therefrom. Germanic tradition calls this figure "Christkindl" (Lit. Christ Child) which has been corrupted in the US to "Kris Kringle", others have a tradition of the Magi delivering gifts. A majority of Europe, if I'm not mistaken, uses a name like "Father Christmas" or "Old Man Christmas" that is not based on a historic figure at all. Any thoughts or comments?

12 posted on 12/20/2005 8:32:26 PM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: NYer; Jim Robinson

Thanks for this informative post. And thanks to the mods for the Merry Christmas link too.

I never had a problem telling my child that Santa Claus was real. A child can easily understand such "shape shifting" as St. Nicholas underwent. It is important that they understand he was a real person, who was holy and helped those in need. It is the most important thing, actually.

Our little Christmas tree is filling my heart with joy this year. A lovely little tree, and it has come into my life at a time of great stress and disruption. To me, this little tree is truly a gift from St. Nicholas, a little mini-miracle.

Thanks again for this thread, and Merry Christmas all!

16 posted on 12/20/2005 10:03:20 PM PST by jocon307 (Still mourning the loss of CBS FM)
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Life of Saint Nicholas the Bishop, from The Golden Legend compiled by Jacobus de Voragine

An Orthodox priest at Bari; the story of St. Nicholas' bones

Turkish Town Exchanges St. Nick for Santa (Former Myra, hometown of St. Nicholas)

St. Nicholas belongs in any reclamation of Christmas

The Real St. Nicholas

Yes, There Really is a St. Nicholas !

Don't forget: St. Nicholas' Day is tomorrow [today] (get your shoes out!)

St. Nicholas [NOT Santa Claus], the Gift Giver [Read Only]

18 posted on 12/20/2005 10:21:57 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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How St. Nicholas Became Santa Claus: One Theory

I'm sure he had to go to Santa Claus school, just like all the other Santas.

19 posted on 12/20/2005 10:25:16 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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When I was growing up I never believed in the Easter Bunny. The idea of a rabbit hiding eggs just seemed ridiculous to me.

Santa Claus however was a different story. A guy spending his entire year with a bunch of elves making toys and delivering all those toys throughout the world in one night by reindeer just seemed logical to me. I was devastated when I found out this wasn't true and probably explains my warp persona.

27 posted on 12/21/2005 6:08:34 AM PST by HarleyD ("Command what you will and give what you command." - Augustine's Prayer)
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Saint Nicholas


First Thursday of Advent

Isaiah 26:1-6
Psalm 117: 1, 8-9, 19-21,25-27a
Matthew 7:21, 24-27

Saint Nicholas Between East and West

The Church in East and West commemorates today Saint Nicholas the Wonderworker. The very first journey of Pope Benedict XVI as Supreme Pontiff in May 2005 was to the southern Italian port city of Bari, home to the relics of Saint Nicholas. At the time, few American Catholics realized the profound significance of that gesture. Orthodox Christians, however, were sensitive and attentive to the presence of the Pope in a city that John Paul II had called “a bridge to the East.”

The Slammer of Heretics

Saint Nicholas is celebrated for his role at the First Council of Nicaea. According to legend, he became so incensed upon hearing the views of Arius that he rushed over to the hapless heretic and gave him a mighty blow on his ears, sending him sprawling. That, of course, was when the testosterone of Catholic bishops was proportionate to their orthodoxy.

Saint Nicholas at the Altar

To my mind, the most important thing to remember about Saint Nicholas is the spirit of godly fear and adoration with which he stood before the Holy Altar at the moment of the Divine Liturgy. Everything else in his life — including the countless miracles attributed to him — flowed from the Holy Mysteries. The Divine Liturgy served by Saint Nicholas must have been like the Mass of Padre Pio. While the holy gifts were being carried in procession to the altar, the people sang of Our Lord’s Eucharistic advent among them: “We who mystically represent the Cherubim, who sing to the life–giving Trinity the thrice holy hymn, let us now lay aside all earthly cares, that we may receive the King of all who comes escorted invisibly by Angelic hosts. alleluia, alleluia, alleluia.”

The Saints in Advent

Saint Nicholas and the other saints of Advent surround the Eucharistic Advent of the Lord just as they will surround Him with the angels in the glory of His Advent at the end of time. How important it is to acknowledge the saints of Advent, to seek their intercession, to rejoice in their lives. Those who would banish the saints from the celebration of the Advent liturgy are misled and mistaken. The mission of the saints of Advent is to prepare us for the coming of Christ: for His final advent as King and Judge, yes, but also for His humble daily advent hidden under the species of bread and wine. In no way do the saints detract from the intensity of the Advent season. Each of them is given us as a companion and intercessor, charged with making ready our hearts for the advent of the Bridegroom–King.

Saint Nicholas in New Amsterdam

Saint Nicholas arrived in America with the Protestant Dutch settlers in 1624 in what was then called New Amsterdam. As much as the gloomy Protestant Reformation in Holland tried to suppress the cult of the Saints, the Dutch would not give up their beloved Saint Nicholas. Dutch customs, expressions, and even language persisted in New York right into the opening years of the last century, but by that time others had come through Ellis Island, New York’s port of entry — Italians, Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, and Greeks. They came bringing icons of Saint Nicholas lovingly wrapped in the trunks that contained all their worldly possessions. They came bringing prayers to Saint Nicholas learned as little children, and armed with a confidence in the intercession of Saint Nicholas that withstood poverty, prejudice, hunger, sickness, and all the vicissitudes of a new life in a strange land.

Saint Nicholas the Glorious Patron and Wonderworker

Saint Nicholas has always had enormous appeal. He is recognized as the patron saint of more causes than of any other saint, of classes of people, cities, churches, and whole nations. He is the patron saint of thieves — not because he helps them to steal — but because he helps them to repent and change; of pawnbrokers and bankers because he knew how to use gold in the service of compassion and charity; of pharmacists, fisherman, lawsuits lost unjustly and the lawyers who lost them, prisoners, orphans, prostitutes, unmarried men, scholars, haberdashers, and bishops. He is best known as the patron saint of children, especially children who are threatened by the circumstances of a troubled family life, or by abuse.

Saint Nicholas and Priests

I like to think of Saint Nicholas also as a patron and friend of priests. More than ever before it is crucial that priests place themselves under the protection of the saints and live in their friendship. Saint Nicholas has much to teach priests: passionate devotion to Christ true God and true Man; compassion for the poor; and the courage to defend children from all dangers of body and soul. Thursday is a day of intercession for priests. Pray to Saint Nicholas today for all priests, but especially for those who have grown fainthearted and weary, and for those attacked by the noonday devil. It saddens me to hear the carping commentaries on the plight of the Connecticut priest who was sentenced to three years in prison in Federal Court in New Haven on Tuesday. How many of those who make smug remarks about the wrongdoing of Father Fay, and persist in recounting the juicy details of his downfall, are willing to spend an hour, or two, or three in reparation before the Eucharistic Face of Our Lord on his behalf?

Saint Nicholas and the Eucharistic Advent of Christ

Saint Nicholas is present to us today. He will accompany me to the altar, taking his place there among the other saints and angels invisibly present in every Mass. More than anything else, I would ask Saint Nicholas to open the eyes of our souls to the Eucharistic advent of Christ. If we are prepared for Christ’s coming in the Holy Mysteries, we will be prepared for His final coming in glory. One who lives from one Holy Mass to the next need not fear the Day of the Lord. Glorious Saint Nicholas the Wonderworker, pray for us that we may be made worthy of the advent of Christ.

36 posted on 12/06/2007 10:11:47 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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