Posted on 12/29/2005 6:52:33 PM PST by Dahlseide
h1,h2{font-family: "Arial Black","Helvetica Bold" sans-serif;font-weight:normal} h1{font-size: 20px} h2{font-size: 14px} It shall be our endeavor, this morning, to make as simple and as plain as possible, the matter of the covenant spoken of in our text, and I shall thus speak—first upon the covenant of grace; secondly, its everlasting character; and thirdly, the relationship which the blood bears to it. "The blood of the everlasting covenant."
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Would that be the 7th day of the week Sabbath?
Sunday
Welp, that's settles that. Good thing I stopped at the title.
What a great passage to meditate on. I include the next verse as well:
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is well pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen (KJV)
Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant, equip you with everything good that you may do his will, working in you that which is pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. (RSV)
20May the God of peace, who through the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, 21equip you with everything good for doing his will, and may he work in us what is pleasing to him, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. (NIV)
The Great Shepherd of the Sheep! I like that.
Shepherd me, O Lord!
Ditto
Therefore, let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. (Colossians 2:13-17)
Why don't you repost the whole sermon on another thread?
Men work without rest to earn what he gives freely in His grace.. I rest in Him :)
"This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me." In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me." For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.
*As Redeemed Christians, we Catholics gather with the Priest at the altar to offer to God the pluperfect Sacrifice of the New Covenant. Jesus is the Priest, (both Priest and victim) and through the priesthood He perfected, He offers Himself to God (and we participate in that offering as members of the Royal Priesthood)as an act of propitiation and to call down Grace upon we Christians and our families - living and dead.
We Reedeemed Christians then are honoured to participate in the New Covenant Meal, the Heavenly Banquet, when we consume the Eucharist - the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, of Jesus our Saviour.
Comsider joining us as the way to fulfill Jesus'Commands
I am not familiar with you to the point where I understand your tag line so possibly I misinterpret it. But the sense I get from it is opposite to mine; I was only born into a Lutheran family; I was not born a Christian; but I was Christian(ized) much latter in life when God working through the means He uses here caused me to be regenerated according to the scriptures. From that time on He has instilled in me, according to His pleasure through grace, a deeper understanding of (1) my sin nature which I inherited from my father Adam, together with (2) my new nature which was the result of His regenerative work in me.
The T in my tag stands for my total depravity, my state before God caused me to be regenerated. My Lutheran upbringing, of which I was a very poor student, taught me one thing that I remembered well; that made it easy for me to embrace the T, but not until after I was regenerated; that teaching was we are by nature sinful and unclean. But after regeneration I realized I was a mixed bag consisting of (1) my old-Adam-nature, dealt a fatal blow but still kicking like a chicken with its head cut-off, and (2) a new-nature. Scripture describes this of course; and Luther in Bondage of the Will describes as much to Erasmus & to me
To my way of thinking, to my senses when coupled with my new nature, God has used many folks on FR to pace & run with me in the race Paul speaks of; but also there have been numerous temptations to detract on FR, not due to personnel animosity, but due to major, and I believe life-threatening, doctrinal/theological differences. When I say temptations I do not accuse anyone, you in particular, of tempting me, I only mean that due to my curiosity-that-killed-the-cat, my pride, my argumentative nature, in short my still kicking Adamic-nature, I am tempted to divert from my race to argue, in the classical meaning of the word, with folks that to me are not on the same race-track, nor running a race with the same rules.
I am grateful that others on FR are equipped to understand & reply to what protestants regard as these major life-threatening doctrinal/theological error – not personnel animosity nor anti-Catholic.
In one sense you might say I appeal to tradition. That sense is the support given me personally by the numerous saints, some here on FR, and many more, now long dead in an earthly sense, through their writings/testimony. But that “tradition” is circumscribed, even self-circumscribed, by what protestants hold to be the word of God and the Word.
Someone on FR has suggested that Protestants might become a denomination of one, sort of like An Army of One. In a sense that is also true as each protestant has recognized that there is only One Mediator. All protestants assert that no one will have any luck whatsoever if we or they attempt to claim any denomination at the judgment; the judgment that is bound in the Scripture to come; the judgment in accordance with “…it is appointed unto man to die once & after that comes judgment…”.
But in fact there is one denomination if by that one means the body of Christ, His church which is yet invisible & known only to God; the church known from eternity past, saved from the wrath to come.
For that church, drawn from every nation & tongue, there is one Rule Book that describes everything regarding the race; the race to which Paul refers. It describes the reason/necessity for the race, the entrance requirements for the race, the means of attaining those requirements, the race itself, and the goal of the race. Each person that attempts to get on one of the many tracks will find out sooner or later that there is truly only one race-track. That race-track has one starting gate, one entrance fee paid by the Starter/Finisher, one goal, much Water along the Way, and numerous impediments; but that ultimate victory in that race has many winners; they can not now be counted or known they can only be named as a member of that church, that denomination. Each runner on that track knows that his victory in that race, from its slow beginning to its certain end, was all of God
With respect to my poor allegory, I apologize to, in my mind, the greatest allegory writer of all time who has explained it all so well in his Pilgrims Progress.I commend it to you
Finally as to the subject of this thread “The Blood of the Everlasting Covenant” – Hebrews 13:20.
I commend to all, who have read or merely gotten this far, Spurgeon’s sermon no. 273. Therein he includes a speculation of conversations regarding covenants within the Triune-God from eternity past. His speculation is of course speculation as to the words but it is not speculation as to its truth. I think the attempt at conversational speculation is justified by the challenge & encouragement of describing the wonders of it all as expressed in 1 Corinthians 2:9 I also recommend to those who reject, maybe misunderstand election, that they read with care Spurgeon’s words concerning it.
1 Corinthians 2:9
9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
As for the truth of it I commend the following with the suggestion that we ignore the comma in verse 19 …power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power..
In fact I think ignore many or nearly all of the commas
Ephesians 2:8-10
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 1
1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: 2Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 15Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, 16Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; 17That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
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Ephesians (King James Version)
Was that the "actual flesh "of Jesus ? He was wearing His flesh as he said that . Did he also eat his own flesh at the last supper?
Amen Brother. I was born by the grace and ordinance of God into a Catholic family. I also was not born a Christian, I was born totally depraved and in desperate need for a Savior.
To answer your question to my private e-mail, one simple word exactly! I had gone through the evening & well into the AM before I had the gumption to take a peek at the posts; in some things I'm the timid sort. Then I became so relieved & very grateful.
This theology is like a drunk driver slapping a fish sticker on the back of his car and continuing to drive drunk. It only makes sense if you read the Letter of Paul to the Collosians as the Letter of Paul to ME.
For starters, "sabbaths" here is not capitalized. It refers to Jewish Holidays, not the weekly Sabbath. Secondly, Paul was called to convert Gentiles. He went to the sun worshipping people and taught them how to worhip the God of Abraham, Jacob, Isaac, and Jesus. These people would likely have already been worshipping on Sunday and if it was Paul's intent to have them worship on Sunday, then he would have had to say exactly nothing.
Jesus came to fulfill the law not to end it. If you keep reading you may come across the following passages:
Rom 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make the Law void through faith? Let it not be! But we establish the Law.
Now if the Sabbath was not important, why did the author of the article erroneously date his paper as "Sabbath" when he obviously meant Sunday. If the Sabbath is not important anymore, why are so many people trying so hard to equate it with Sunday? One of three things must be true; either Sabbath is Sabbath and it matters, Sunday turned into Sabbath, or Jesus is Sabbath. All 3 cannot be true.
You are an inspiration to me brother and I am always edified by your posts. I know the feeling, never knowing what the response will be to our humble attempts to present Christ as Savior and Lord.There are many times I also do not want to see the responses too. But we can have confidence that it is God that opens eyes and ears and understanding. And He assures us that it is never we that fail, but His ordination that succeeds
Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.
His word, not our words or work produce either trophies of His grace or trophies of His wrath.
Please continue with your gentle persuasion it is a blessing to all of us! And thank you for your encouragement. May all Glory go to God !
Soli Deo Gloria
Rom 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make the Law void through faith? Let it not be! But we establish the Law.
Are you saying that you/we are to keep the Law as opposed to being driven to Christ by our inability to keep it?
And by that I do not mean the the Law is null & void, or of no use, far from it.
The Law points out sin. Therefore it is our guide to living a Holy life. To throw out the Law is to insinuate that God is fallible and thus not God. As Christians, Jesus is our Savior and our template.
Our love of Christ is demonstrated by our striving to keep His commandments. Belief in the Holy Trinity leads to belief that Jesus existed in heaven before he existed on earth. The plan of salvation was laid out at the foundation of the world. Abraham was not saved by the Law, but by his faith in God demonstrated by his willingness to kill his only son because God told him to.
Luk 6:46 And why do you call Me Lord, Lord, and do not do what I say?
Luk 6:47 Whoever comes to Me and hears My Words, and does them, I will show you to whom he is like.
Mat 19:17 And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? There is none good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 5:18 For truly I say to you, Till the heaven and the earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any way pass from the Law until all is fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Therefore whoever shall relax one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.
Mat 15:8 "This people draws near to Me with their mouth, and honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. Mat 15:9 But in vain they worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
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