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VILE “SOUTH PARK” EPISODE PULLED (Catholic League Pres. responds)
Catholic League ^ | December 30, 2005 | Bill Donohue

Posted on 12/30/2005 11:40:04 AM PST by NYer

“Several news stories today are reporting on the decision by Comedy Central to pull a scheduled rerun of the ‘Bloody Mary’ episode that was  shown on ‘South Park’ on December 7-10.  The decision reflects what I asked for in our news release of December 8.  Therefore, I commend Comedy Central for finally making the right decision.  That it aired in the first place, however, does not speak well for the bigots responsible for creating it. 

 

“In our December 8 news release, I also said, ‘Remember, they chose to insult Our Blessed Mother on the eve of the Immaculate Conception, and the holy day itself.’  The episode in question featured a statue of the Virgin Mary spraying blood from her vagina.  It was one of the most vile TV shows ever to appear, and that is why I asked Joseph Califano, a practicing Catholic and member of Viacom’s board of directors (Viacom is the parent company of Comedy Central) to issue a public condemnation of the ‘Bloody Mary’ episode; I also asked that he do whatever he could to pull any scheduled reruns of the episode. 

 

“On December 9, the day Califano received our request, he released a statement condemning the episode.  He also said that any further decisions would have to be made by Tom Freston, president and chief executive of the New Viacom.  For the past few weeks, we have been in touch with Freston’s office awaiting his decision.  Yesterday, we received a phone call from Tony Fox, executive vice president for corporate communications at Comedy Central, informing us that there were no plans to rerun ‘Bloody Mary.’

 

“Already, we are being deluged with hate mail that is as obscene as it is viciously anti-Catholic.  All because we exercised our First Amendment right to request that Comedy Central not offend Catholics again!  But we’re used to such things and will not be deterred.”


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1 posted on 12/30/2005 11:40:08 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

The Catholic League is the nation's largest Catholic civil rights organization. It defends individual Catholics and the institutional Church from defamation and discrimination.


2 posted on 12/30/2005 11:40:41 AM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer

I hate to be the bad guy here, but for all the work the CL does, Bill Donohue still supports homosexual civil unions, which is explicitly against Church teaching. I wish Catholics would put some pressure on him about this. Because in the grand scheme of things, homosexual civil unions are a far greater threat than anything on TV. I don't want to support a Catholic group that is fighting against Church teaching no matter what they do.


3 posted on 12/30/2005 11:44:22 AM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: EveningStar; HairOfTheDog
Bill Donohue: "Respect my authoritah!"


4 posted on 12/30/2005 11:50:27 AM PST by ecurbh
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To: NYer; EveningStar
Oh yay! Another thread about this!
5 posted on 12/30/2005 11:54:25 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: NYer

I saw that episode. My impression was that the scenes questioned here were unecessary to the topic of the story. The other parts were funny. The Virgin Mary part was not.


6 posted on 12/30/2005 11:55:23 AM PST by Sue Bob
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To: NYer

great another thread so the FR Holier than thou club can come out and demonize those that enjoy the show.

NO thanks, I'll pass.


7 posted on 12/30/2005 11:56:03 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: nickcarraway

Agreed.


8 posted on 12/30/2005 11:56:47 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: MikeinIraq
the FR Holier than thou club

a/k/a The Humor-Impaired Club

9 posted on 12/30/2005 11:59:56 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: steelcurtain

yeah that too....

but they enjoy not having a sense of humor whereas if you call them "holier than thou", it makes them mad because it hits them right between the eyes.


10 posted on 12/30/2005 12:01:30 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: NYer

I certainly won't defend this episode, which indeed sounds vile and disgusting. But I'll say this for "South Park." Unlike most other shows, they don't single out Christianity for abuse, while honoring a host of sacred cows. They make fun of everyone. Which means that they're attacking the Church bothers me much less than it would coming from other quarters.


11 posted on 12/30/2005 12:11:07 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: nickcarraway
Second to that.
12 posted on 12/30/2005 12:37:28 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Denial is a river in Egypt...)
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To: NYer

Good for the Catholic League!

But be careful everyone, a certain poster has reappeared who LOVED that episode and who begins to weep and whine if anyone makes even a passing reference to his posting name.

Amazing how people like him think everyone else humor-less if we object when our beliefs are attacked, but even a little passing reference to his posting name goes right through his very thin skin.


13 posted on 12/30/2005 12:40:15 PM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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To: NYer
Excellent!
14 posted on 12/30/2005 12:40:31 PM PST by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: MikeinIraq
great another thread so the FR Holier than thou club can come out and demonize those that enjoy the show.

Boy, it really irks you, huh. Good.
15 posted on 12/30/2005 12:56:05 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

not really.

Not as much as this CARTOON has irked YOU, at least, to force YOU into FR stalking me from South Park thread to South Park thread....


16 posted on 12/30/2005 12:57:07 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: Teófilo

I can't believe people on FR look to a CARTOON to have their values reaffirmed.

That strikes me as really WEAK.


17 posted on 12/30/2005 12:57:47 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: All
Here is a picture that will SURELY get some panties in a twist....


18 posted on 12/30/2005 12:59:01 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: MikeinIraq

I get annoyed when Donohue starts morphing into Foxman.


19 posted on 12/30/2005 12:59:40 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: MikeinIraq
Not as much as this CARTOON has irked YOU,

Doesn't irk me too much. You seem to be apoplectic though.

at least, to force YOU into FR stalking me from South Park thread to South Park thread....

LOL! It was the top thread on the religion forum, where I do most of my posting. Time to grow up. And stop calling people "a$$ holes" on FR. It's going to wind up getting you banned, and then you'll be without a platform to cry about "censorship".
20 posted on 12/30/2005 12:59:50 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: NYer
Did not see the episode as I have never watched the show, but am glad to hear they will not re-air the show in question.

Why is it people have lost their sense of what is comedy and what is just plain bad taste? I could care a less that they make fun of "everyone," it still does not make it right.

21 posted on 12/30/2005 1:02:10 PM PST by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: MikeinIraq
NO thanks, I'll pass.

Bravo sierra.

22 posted on 12/30/2005 1:04:55 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: steelcurtain

There is a difference between humor and bad taste.


23 posted on 12/30/2005 1:05:17 PM PST by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: MikeinIraq
NO thanks, I'll pass.

Cmon...eat the forbidden fruit that is South Park


24 posted on 12/30/2005 1:08:33 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: MikeinIraq

I don't believe because someone disagrees with the content of the episode that they do not have a sense of humor or pretend to be "holier than thou." Quite the contrary, what you may find to be humerous, i.e blasphemy, the irreverent use of the Blessed Mother's name or speaking disrespectfully of holy things certainly does not mean everyone else finds this humerous. It also does not mean that people are anti-humor. I don't watch the show so I can't comment on it, but I have several friends who do find it funny. I do worry that people and society in general have sunk so low that bad taste has become the norm.


25 posted on 12/30/2005 1:15:46 PM PST by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: Gerish

you should read some of the other threads then before commenting.


26 posted on 12/30/2005 1:16:10 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: smith288

LOL

I watch it all the time.


27 posted on 12/30/2005 1:16:23 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

ummm ok.


28 posted on 12/30/2005 1:16:38 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: MikeinIraq

Sorry, wish I had the time. God Bless.


29 posted on 12/30/2005 1:17:35 PM PST by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: AmishDude

LOL

I mean, wasn't his 15 minutes of fame over the Walmart NOTHING over already?

I have catholics in my family, yet the ones that watch South Park (my cousins who are all 8-15 years OLDER than I am) loved it.


31 posted on 12/30/2005 1:18:58 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: Gerish

you had time to respond.....


32 posted on 12/30/2005 1:19:25 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: MikeinIraq

I'm not Catholic, but I didn't find this particular part of the epsiode funny. It was supposed to make fun of Catholics who find an image of Mary in everything and to set up the joke in the "statement" by the Pope, but they didn't really get more out of it.


33 posted on 12/30/2005 1:25:40 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

it's one thing to say it's unfunny, it's quite another to take one portion of one episode and try to bash those that watch it with it.....


and quite funny too.


34 posted on 12/30/2005 1:29:58 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: NYer

I think Catholics need to get a grip and stop thinking everyones out to get them. Start by cleaning up your own house.


35 posted on 12/30/2005 1:30:36 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Gerish

South Park makes it a point to offend EVERYONE. So should they pull the movie Team America, which offends Muslims and Hollywood? How about the one that hits Rosie O'Donnell? Michael Jackson? Mormons? Take your pick of anyone or anything and it's a target for South Park. Why should the Catholics get special privileges?


36 posted on 12/30/2005 1:31:23 PM PST by Spyder
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To: MikeinIraq

Tom Cruise STILL won't come out of the closet!


37 posted on 12/30/2005 1:32:10 PM PST by Allegra (Go Texans...I mean, go...get that first draft pick....I mean...)
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To: Spyder

nah I guess they want South Park to pull the Mecha Striesand episode.....


38 posted on 12/30/2005 1:33:27 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: Allegra

LOL

I can actually do the R Kelly part on that episode LOL


39 posted on 12/30/2005 1:33:48 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: NYer

I think the episode only took shots at those who flock to fluids from icons calling them miraculous. Beyond that, I didn’t catch that it was any more anti-Catholic that their parody of OBL in his cave or jihadists shooting down Santa was anti-Islam.

It’s South Park. They parody the fringe in everything.


40 posted on 12/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PST by elfman2
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To: MikeinIraq
I'd love to hear your R Kelly. That is definitely my favorite episode of this season.

I wonder if the Scientolgists have sued Parker and Stone yet?

Written by: John Smith
Voices by: John Smith
Concept by: John Smith
Music by: John Smith
Animation by: John Smith

41 posted on 12/30/2005 1:36:31 PM PST by Allegra (Go Texans...I mean, go...get that first draft pick....I mean...)
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To: Spyder
South Park makes it a point to offend EVERYONE

The line that is crossed is blasphemy, not just any offensive humor. And yes, if a show blasphemes other religions, and they object, it should be pulled as well.

42 posted on 12/30/2005 1:37:58 PM PST by annalex
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To: Allegra

LOL

you forgot a couple Jane Smiths in there as well :)


43 posted on 12/30/2005 1:40:26 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: nickcarraway
Bill Donohue still supports homosexual civil unions

We don't look to Bill Donohue for theological guidance, do we? His contribution is to make the purveyors of the vilest forms of mass entertainement accountable. More power to him.

44 posted on 12/30/2005 1:40:31 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex

That’s subjective. The publicity bump from this controversy isn’t.


45 posted on 12/30/2005 1:43:34 PM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2

Blasphemy is not subjective to those who know anything about the subject. The publicity, I think, is good, because it signals to everyone that Catholics are not going to take abuse silently. The offensive episode was pulled and a similar offense is now less likely to recur. If people have been attracted to the stupid show without the blasphemous episode, we have no objection to that.


46 posted on 12/30/2005 2:15:05 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex; elfman2
The offensive episode was pulled and a similar offense is now less likely to recur.

You REALLY don't know your South Park if you believe that.
47 posted on 12/30/2005 2:15:47 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: NYer; Dr. Eckleburg

They've made fun of Jesus from their beginning but no one complains about that.


48 posted on 12/30/2005 2:19:46 PM PST by zeeba neighba (I have my Christmas Newfie . He's eating my foot as I type)
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To: MikeinIraq

I have little knowledge of South Park, yes. Incidentally, I saw about 2 min total of it once, channel surfing, and found it funny. But I don't imagine any media executive enjoys making a show, then receiving angry letters, then pulling it, shaking up the staff, and apologizing. If South Park executives are somehow an exception, well the exercise can be repeated. With repetition, even dogs learn.


49 posted on 12/30/2005 2:21:40 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
" Blasphemy is not subjective to those who know anything about the subject"

I think that Blasphemy is as subjective as the word “anti-American”. If Parker and Stone had Bush sprayed with fluids from a statue, most of this forum would call it anti-American. If X-42 got it 6 years ago, most would cheer. What changed? Our opinions of what and who represents American.

I don’t think Catholics agree that fluid dripping icons are miraculous is or that people flocking to them is central to your religion. Therefore, I suspect most would not agree with your claim of blasphemy, despite cringing when the Pope got splattered. Even I cringed a little at that, but figured it was just their usual attempt to be outrageous by taking potty humor and anti-authoritarianism to the edge.

I suspect that Parker, Stone and Comedy Central are no more upset with the controversy than you.

50 posted on 12/30/2005 2:56:11 PM PST by elfman2
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