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L.A. Cathedral cancels event featuring discredited "mystic"
Los Angeles Times (free registration required) ^ | January 10, 2006 | Larry B. Stammer

Posted on 01/10/2006 9:17:55 AM PST by Deo volente

The Roman Catholic cathedral of Los Angeles on Monday rescinded its invitation to hold a Christian unity conference later this month after concluding that the principal speaker was to be a controversial self-proclaimed mystic who claimed to speak directly with God, Jesus and Mary.

In a letter to the sponsors, Msgr. Kevin Kostelnik, pastor of the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels, said that what had been represented by sponsors as a Christian unity conference had turned out to be largely a forum for Vassula Ryden, a Greek Orthodox laywoman who has attracted worldwide attention with her reports of sacred conversations.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: cathedral; losangeles
A stopped clock is right twice a day.

At least one scandalous and outrageous event will NOT be taking place at the Cathedral.

1 posted on 01/10/2006 9:17:58 AM PST by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente
From Salve Regina Books in San Francisco

What is True Life in God?

True Life in God is a series of 12 books containing the interior conversations between God and Vassula Ryden. To date, twelve volumes have been published and translated into over 40 languages.


Who Is Vassula Ryden?    

Vassula Ryden is Greek, born in Egypt and raised in Switzerland, married to a Swedish engineer working for the United Nations, and has two adult children. She has lived in many African and Asian countries besides Switzerland, and currently resides in Rome. One day in 1985 in Bangladesh, while preparing a shopping list, Vassula’s hand became heavy, an interior voice spoke to her, and she found herself writing: “I am your guardian angel and my name is Daniel.”

Since then, for 19 years and still ongoing, she has been receiving messages in dictation from God the Father, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary and others. These messages are written in a special handwriting and published in 12 volumes entitled True Life in God. Vassula has given about 700 talks in over 60 nations around the world, bringing God’s message of Peace and Love to all mankind. Tens of thousands of people who have heard her talks or read the Messages of True Life in God have found God, changed their lives and returned to Him. (Vassula does not accept stipends for her talks nor royalties from the books.)

2 posted on 01/10/2006 9:34:21 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Carolina

As my favorite priest says, "if someone tells you they're having visions, send them to Lenscrafters."

3 posted on 01/10/2006 12:28:25 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

As P.T. Barnum once said...................hehe.

4 posted on 01/10/2006 12:33:00 PM PST by verity (The MSM is a National disgrace.)
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To: Deo volente


Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

Many bishops, priests, religious and lay people have sought an authoritative judgement from this Congregation on the activity of Mrs. Vassula Ryden, a Greek Orthodox residing in Switzerland, who in speech and in writing is spreading in Catholic circles throughout the world messages attributed to alleged heavenly revelations. A calm, attentive examination of the entire question, undertaken by this Congregation in order to "test the spirits to see whether they are of God" (cf. 1 Jn 4:1), has brought out-in addition to positive aspects - a number of basic elements that must be considered negative in the light of Catholic doctrine.

In addition to pointing out the suspect nature of the ways in which these alleged revelations have occurred, it is necessary to underscore several doctrinal errors they contain.

Among other things, ambiguous language is used in speaking of the Persons of the Holy Trinity, to the point of confusing the specific names and functions of the Divine Persons. These alleged revelations predict an imminent period when the Antichrist will prevail in the Church. In millenarian style, it is prophesied that God is going to make a final glorious intervention which will initiate on earth, even before Christ's definitive coming, an era of peace and universal prosperity. Furthermore, the proximate arrival is foretold of a Church which would be a kind of pan-Christian community, contrary to Catholic doctrine.

The fact that the aforementioned errors no longer appear in Ryden's later writings is a sign that the alleged "heavenly messages" are merely the result of private meditations.

Moreover, by habitually sharing in the sacraments of the Catholic Church even though she is Greek Orthodox, Mrs. Ryden is causing considerable surprise in various circles of the Catholic Church. She appears to be putting herself above all ecclesiastical jurisdiction and every canonical norm, and in effect, is creating an ecumenical disorder that irritates many authorities, ministers and faithful of her own Church, as she puts herself outside the ecclesiastical discipline of the latter.

Given the negative effect of Vassula Ryden's activities, despite some positive aspects, this Congregation requests the intervention of the Bishops so that their faithful may be suitably informed and that no opportunity may be provided in their Dioceses for the dissemination of her ideas. Lastly, the Congregation invites all the faithful not to regard Mrs. Vassula Ryden's writings and speeches as supernatural and to preserve the purity of the faith that the Lord has entrusted to the Church.

Vatican City, 6 October 1995.

I checked, and although not available electronically, the document is still on the official list with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

Not that the Curia should matter to somebody as important as His Eminence...[/sarc]

5 posted on 01/10/2006 1:19:58 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: Carolina

I don't want to be shallow, but that lady looks WEIRD.

6 posted on 01/10/2006 1:40:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (D-minus-14.)
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To: verity

That was David Hannum not P.T. Barnum.

7 posted on 01/10/2006 2:57:38 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Tax-chick

Is this better?

Not being shallow, or anything.

8 posted on 01/10/2006 3:14:56 PM PST by Carolina
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To: Tax-chick
Looks can sometimes deceive.

This is not one of those times. :-0

9 posted on 01/10/2006 3:24:48 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Carolina; Campion

Like a 60's rock singer just out of drug rehab, again.

10 posted on 01/10/2006 3:26:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (D-minus-14.)
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To: Carolina

I think some bankers in Arkansas bought some cheap land from her...

11 posted on 01/11/2006 11:06:48 AM PST by dangus
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the CDF has modified the situation regarding TLIG, please before you are so quick to judge, read all of True Life in God first. Otherwise your comments are nothing but rash judgments made because of a newspaper article with no credit whatsoever.

January 2005 go to: to read all of the comments and questions and answers that were given to Vassula.

For the past few years an ongoing communication has been taking place between the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) and Vassula. This communication has modified the situation that emerged after the Notification published by the CDF in 1995. The dialogue between Vassula and the CDF was published in the latest editions of TLIG worldwide at the request of the CDF’s Prefect, H.E. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. The publication of this dialogue has resulted in a letter dated 10th July 2004 which is signed by Cardinal Ratzinger himself to a number of Presidents of Catholic Episcopal Conferences who had expressed particular concern on Vassula and her writings. His Eminence explained to them in his letter that the position of the CDF has been modified towards Vassula and her writings. The Cardinal wishes that everyone reads the questions put to Vassula and her answers.

When Cardinal Ratzinger was asked, "what will your office reply if anybody asks if the notification is still valid?," his reply was:

"The situation has been modified"

Original Letter from Cardinal Ratzinger

Letter from the CDF Under-Secretary

Commentary by Archbishop Arguelles

Commentary by Fr. Lars Messerschmidt

Also of interest to look at:

12 posted on 01/14/2006 2:35:15 PM PST by AN33
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