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Robert Schuller & Son on Larry King on Gay Marriage
CNN Website ^ | January 24, 2005 | N/A

Posted on 01/24/2006 7:16:00 PM PST by buckeyesrule

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY!!!!!! I'm glad I stopped buying his books seome time ago.
1 posted on 01/24/2006 7:16:02 PM PST by buckeyesrule
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To: buckeyesrule

Your link is whack. Please fix it.


2 posted on 01/24/2006 7:20:00 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Your link is whack.

How can his link be 'whack' when Whitney Houston said "Crack is Whack">

3 posted on 01/24/2006 7:21:27 PM PST by TexGuy
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To: TexGuy

It's not directing to the correct article. It is directing to an interview with the President.


4 posted on 01/24/2006 7:24:58 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: buckeyesrule

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0601/23/lkl.01.html


5 posted on 01/24/2006 7:25:03 PM PST by buckeyesrule (Alito is neat-o!)
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And by the way, Whitney should know, Crack is Whack. She has personal experience getting whack with it.


6 posted on 01/24/2006 7:25:42 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

The transcript is for the entire Larry King Show last night.....first half hour was with Bush 41 and the second half was with Schuller.


7 posted on 01/24/2006 7:26:17 PM PST by buckeyesrule (Alito is neat-o!)
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To: buckeyesrule

He sounds like a most excellent New-Ager.


8 posted on 01/24/2006 7:53:35 PM PST by spycatcher
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R.H. SCHULLER: I am addicted to excellence, totally committed to excellence.

Yuk. What he is addicted to (if this quote is anything to go by) are buzzword ridden bestselling management guru books.

I'm glad I stopped buying his books seome time ago.

Never bought any myself. The only one I ever had was that self-esteem thing he mailed out by the million 25-ish years ago.

9 posted on 01/24/2006 7:53:38 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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To: buckeyesrule

I've always thought he's too touchy feely for me. And I'm so sick of slick slogans he and his ilk use ad nauseum.


10 posted on 01/24/2006 8:01:03 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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KING: Is he [Pat Robertson speaking on Israel] interpreting the Bible wrong? Because he quotes...

R.A. SCHULLER: Yes.

KING: ... He's saying it's from the Bible. This is my land, I shall take it back. Is he interpreting it wrong?

R.A. SCHULLER: I do not interpret it the way he does. And if I thought he was interpreting it right, I would agree with him. So I'm saying I think he interprets it wrong.

There are two views of interpreting the Bible in America, that every word is literally the truth without qualification, and then the other view is, it's called plenary inspiration, which holds that all religious truth taught in the Bible is true from God, but each word is not necessarily interpreted literally.

KING: You're in the latter group.

R.A. SCHULLER: I am.

KING: You are as well? Is the Dutch Reform Church generally in the latter?

R.A. SCHULLER: Yes.

11 posted on 01/24/2006 8:15:24 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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KING: When you see a tragedy do you ever doubt God?

R.H. SCHULLER: Oh, no, I don't doubt God because he's the first man -- the first power that comes to the scene.

KING: But he could have prevented the scene.

R.H. SCHULLER: I don't think necessarily so, because without eliminating free will among human beings.

KING: But free will had nothing to do with a hurricane. Free will with a hurricane?

R.H. SCHULLER: It had something to do with the people that chose to live there.

KING: You blame the people that chose to live there?

R.H. SCHULLER: I'm not blaming them. I'm saying we have to think -- a family is wiped out in a hurricane, and they came to live where they wouldn't be hit by a hurricane. I was a victim of almost a hurricane. We were wiped out in a tornado. We got in a car, and we ran away and we saved our lives. We lost everything.

KING: But you don't blame God for the tornado?

R.H. SCHULLER: Of course not.

KING: You're not?

R.H. SCHULLER: No, I don't blame God for the tornado. There are historical catastrophes that will always happen, and the fact is that every single person on planet earth will die. So in 50 years from now, it's a sad thought to realize, but there'll be six billion people who are going to die in the next 100 years, and that's a reality.

The question isn't how do we die. The question is how do we live? And our ministry is about helping people live, and be ready to die when the time comes because we don't know how we're going to die. It might be -- it could be cancer. It could be a hurricane. It could be a number of things. But the real question is how are we going to live?

That's why we focus on empowering with faith. Human beings, to take a positive rather than a negative reaction to the hardships.

12 posted on 01/24/2006 8:20:50 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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KING: But he could have prevented the scene.

R.H. SCHULLER: I don't think necessarily so, because without eliminating free will among human beings.

KING: But free will had nothing to do with a hurricane. Free will with a hurricane?



So there you have it: Free will emasculates God! The man holds Free Will as a power higher than God!
14 posted on 01/25/2006 2:50:07 AM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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So there you have it: Free will emasculates God! The man holds Free Will as a power higher than God!

That's where all this leads, total denial of God's involvement in our lives. "We can make our own choice between good and evil"-a lie taught to us in the garden.

Doesn't a little child depend upon the wisdom of the parent to know what is best? Didn't someone say that we are to become like children?

15 posted on 01/25/2006 4:19:17 AM PST by HarleyD (Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way? - Pro 20:24)
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To: HarleyD; Gamecock

That is very sad, believable that Schuller would say it but sad nonetheless.


16 posted on 01/25/2006 5:12:54 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: buckeyesrule; P-Marlowe; BibChr; HarleyD; jude24

Apparently, Schuller has a weakly stated, pro-heterosexual position.

After reading the full exchange, I wasn't overwhelmed by the sense that I knew where the guy stood....his comments supported a traditional relationship, but his amplification could have him going off in all kinds of directions. And what did he mean by saying that they have had "homosexuals who were representatives of their church (paraphrase)..."


17 posted on 01/25/2006 5:17:30 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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>>So there you have it: Free will emasculates God! The man holds Free Will as a power higher than God!<<

And given the influence Schuller has over many of the mega-churches, it's no wonder we're seeing more and more of this in contemporary, pop-bubblegum christianity.

We must pray for these men and their "ministries"


18 posted on 01/25/2006 5:49:13 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("All that hath life and breath, come now with praises before Him.")
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And what did he mean by saying that they have had "homosexuals who were representatives of their church (paraphrase)..."

I thought that was an interesting statement as well. Sounds like he's sitting on a fence.

19 posted on 01/25/2006 6:07:36 AM PST by HarleyD (Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way? - Pro 20:24)
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