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In Brazil, Signs of Reconversions - Bishop Says Evangelicals Are Returning to Church
Zenit News Agency ^ | January 25, 2006

Posted on 01/26/2006 8:12:07 AM PST by NYer

KOENIGSTEIN, Germany, JAN. 25, 2006 (Zenit.org).- Brazil has seen the phenomenon of Catholics who leave the Church to become members of evangelical communities. Now, some evangelicals are coming back, says a prelate.

Bishop Franco Dalla Valle of Juina, in the Brazilian state of Mato Grosso, shared his view during a recent visit to the headquarters of the charity Aid to the Church in Need.

"When my diocese was erected in 1997, there were just six parishes, now there are 10 and a mission area," said the 60-year-old bishop.

The prelate, an Italian missionary, added: "The number of priests has risen from six to 20, nine of whom are diocesan priests. Currently, five young men are preparing for the priesthood in the Cuiaba seminary. And we also have vocations to the female religious life."

Bishop Dalla Valle explained that violence and drug trafficking are widespread in the region, mainly due to poverty and unemployment.

"In order to give a perspective to young people, I am planning to establish institutions of higher education and professional training," he said.

The prelate also emphasized the importance of Catholic media.

"Our diocesan TV programs do not contain 'telenovelas,' pornography or propaganda," he said. "Therefore, they are popular even among evangelicals, many of whom return to the Catholic faith when they contemplate the mystery of God."


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: brazil; catholic; evangelical; media; southamerica

1 posted on 01/26/2006 8:12:08 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
"Our diocesan TV programs do not contain 'telenovelas,' pornography or propaganda," he said. "Therefore, they are popular even among evangelicals, many of whom return to the Catholic faith when they contemplate the mystery of God."

We've got our own media maven, right here in the US of A.


Mother Angelica

2 posted on 01/26/2006 8:15:22 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Prayers that in-active Catholics around the world may feel the call and return to the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.


3 posted on 01/26/2006 8:25:55 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
We've got our own media maven, right here in the US of A.

I fondly remember her telling of being mobbed in Peru. She has to be considered one of the greatest women of the last century, along with Mother Theresa. What great and diverse gifts they had. What a wonderful Church we have!

4 posted on 01/26/2006 8:34:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: NYer

Good stuff.


5 posted on 01/26/2006 8:37:14 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Salvation

Amen


6 posted on 01/26/2006 8:39:37 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: NYer
Bishop Franco Dalla Valle of Juina, in the Brazilian state of Mato Grosso, shared his view during a recent visit to the headquarters of the charity Aid to the Church in Need. "When my diocese was erected in 1997, there were just six parishes, now there are 10 and a mission area," said the 60-year-old bishop. The prelate, an Italian missionary, added: "The number of priests has risen from six to 20, nine of whom are diocesan priests. Currently, five young men are preparing for the priesthood in the Cuiaba seminary. And we also have vocations to the female religious life."

Sounds like an outstanding Bishop. God bless him.

7 posted on 01/26/2006 8:40:48 AM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: Salvation
It bothers me to see one Christian group claiming to be the one true church while the others are somehow of lesser vintage.If you believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ then to me you are a member of his church. His church has many dimensions to it, some are Catholic and some are main line Protestant and some are Evangelical but the bottom line is that you are a Christian. Its time to stop arguing about the fringe elements or theological differences that we have and to focus on the message of Christ which is to " love the Lord your God and thy neighbor as thyself". As Jesus said this is the essence and foundation of everything.
8 posted on 01/26/2006 8:42:54 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: NYer

My family and I met Mother Angelica about 6 years ago. We were on vacation and heading back to Michigan from Florida. We decided to take a little detour through Alabama. We managed to get tickets to the "Mother Angelica Live" program (free, but not always available). She used to come out before each show to say hello to everyone. She's awesome. We named our oldest daughter after her.


9 posted on 01/26/2006 8:45:03 AM PST by goodform
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To: NYer
I am very glad to hear this news. The shrinking Catholic population in Central and South American countries has been weighing heavily on my heart lately. I've got grandchildren adopted from Guatemala and I am told that only 60% of that country still calls itself Catholic.

Over the last few years, the first place our charitable contributions have gone after pro-life US causes has been genuine Catholic education. But I believe the Lord has put Evangelization south of the border on our hearts and I ask my fellow Catholics with a few dollars to spare to join us in our efforts.

http://www.catholicworldmission.org/faf/home/default.asp?ievent=48879

10 posted on 01/26/2006 9:03:14 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: Courdeleon02
It bothers me to see one Christian group claiming to be the one true church while the others are somehow of lesser vintage.

Get over it.

"Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." St. Ignatius of Antioch Letter to the Smyrnaeans 107 AD

11 posted on 01/26/2006 9:06:51 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: old and tired

"Aid to the Church in Need" (cited in the article) is also outstanding. http://www.kirche-in-not.org/index_s.html


12 posted on 01/26/2006 9:11:32 AM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: Courdeleon02

Nothing bad could ever come from accepting people's diversity.


13 posted on 01/26/2006 9:15:08 AM PST by countorlock (But thy strong Hours indignant work'd their wills, And beat me down and marr'd and wasted me,)
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To: NYer

I started watching telenovelas to help my Spanish aural comprehension, and I enjoy them immensely. Unlike most American TV, there's a consistent undercurrent of traditional morality that always comes across, namely abortion is evil, life and family are good, prayer to "la virgencita" is good, etc. Telemundo and Univision may not exactly be EWTN but they're way ahead of just about everything else (ESPN and FOXNews, excluded, of course).


14 posted on 01/26/2006 9:18:44 AM PST by Ozone34
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To: Aquinasfan

If you have not yet done so, read Raymond Arroyo's book on Mother Angelica. I could not put it down! She is beyond amazing! I'm going to post a thread on her.


15 posted on 01/26/2006 9:30:36 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I don't understand your reply. Do you agree or disagree with what I said?


16 posted on 01/26/2006 9:53:01 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: NYer

It has always amazed me how these supposedly Catholic areas in Latin America have almost no Priests even after 500 years of existence. How is this possible? What has the Church heirarchy been doing?


17 posted on 01/26/2006 9:54:51 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Salvation

Yes, and that in coming in, they bring All That is Good from the Protestants -- love and knowing of the Lord, knowledge of the Bible, an understanding of orthodox Christianity. There is a mighty wind blowing.


18 posted on 01/26/2006 10:01:31 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: countorlock

I think there can be terrible things come from accepting diversity. And have come.


19 posted on 01/26/2006 10:03:43 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

So true!


20 posted on 01/26/2006 10:11:40 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Excellent quote!


21 posted on 01/26/2006 10:13:24 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
When my diocese was erected in 1997, there were just six parishes

Sounds a little on the small side.

22 posted on 01/26/2006 10:15:09 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Courdeleon02

Does your church have those four marks of a true church?

One
Holy
Catholic
Apostolic?

I really don't see where the argument is............Christ told the apostles about the Institution of the Blessed Sacrament: "Do this in memory of me." And the Catholic Church (along with some Anglican Use parishes) are the only churches that do celebrate the Holy Eucharist in this way.


23 posted on 01/26/2006 10:17:30 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
It has always amazed me how these supposedly Catholic areas in Latin America have almost no Priests even after 500 years of existence. How is this possible? What has the Church heirarchy been doing?

You are not alone! As Sandro Magister reported last Fall ...

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Halfway through the synod on the Eucharist, during a break in the work, the pope met with cardinals Francisco Javier Errázuriz, archbishop of Santiago, Chile and president of the Latin American bishops’ conference (CELAM); Pedro Rubiano, archbishop of Bogotá; Cláudio Hummes, archbishop of San Paolo, Brazil; and Jorge Mario Bergoglio, archbishop of Buenos Aires.

The topic of their conversation was the upcoming general conference of CELAM, the fifth of these after the previous ones held in Rio de Janeiro in 1995, in Medellin in 1968, in Puebla in 1979, and in Santo Domingo in 1992.

The conference was already set for 2007, but the place and the exact date remained to be determined. The four bishops were prepared to hold it in Rome, in order to ensure the pope’s participation in the work.

But Benedict XVI said to them all of a sudden: “It will be held in Brazil,” and immediately asked what the country’s most venerated Marian shrine is. “The Aparecida,” they replied. And the pope: “In Brazil, at the Aparecida, in May. I’ll be there.”

The four cardinals were taken completely by surprise. And so were the leaders of the Roman curia – the pope hadn’t discussed the matter with any of them. What induced Benedict XVI to choose Brazil may have been what Cardinal Hummes said at the synod a few days earlier:

“The number of Brazilians who declare themselves Catholics has diminished rapidly, on an average of 1% a year. In 1991 Catholic Brazilians were nearly 83%, today and according to new studies, they are barely 67%. We wonder with anxiety: how long will Brazil remain a Catholic country? In conformity with this situation, it has been found that in Brazil there are two Protestant pastors for each Catholic priest, and the majority from the Pentecostal Churches. Many indications show that the same is true for almost all of Latin America and here too we wonder: how long will Latin America remain a Catholic continent?”

But the choice of the Aparecida also left the four cardinals speechless. That is indeed the most frequently visited shrine in Brazil, but it is located in an isolated part of the state of San Paolo, and it lacks the structures capable of hosting a large-scale continental congress.

But none of the four cardinals dared to object. The pope had decided, and his reasons were all too clear. He has at heart a vigorous renewal of the Catholic faith on the Latin American continent, and symbols are very valuable in this regard.

There’s time to build a convention center on the plain of the Aparecida, until May of 2007.

24 posted on 01/26/2006 10:17:39 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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"Get over it.

"Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." St. Ignatius of Antioch Letter to the Smyrnaeans 107 AD
"

We did. It's called Lutheranism :)
25 posted on 01/26/2006 10:20:46 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: NYer

Mother was --I dare to say--inspired by God. Talk about "democracy in the Church," she managed to succeed where the bishops failed. One practical, hard-working woman of faith succeeded, where a coven of pointy-headed intellectuals failed. I love the story of the way she defeated and deflated the fairy cardinal of Los Angeles.


26 posted on 01/26/2006 10:22:12 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Hermann, the poverty in these countries is tremendous. In the last century, thousands of Evangelical missionaries have descended upon these impoverished places with great zeal and have had tremendous success in spreading the Good News.

Meanwhile, their Catholic counterparts have been attempting to organize unions, and spread their version of social justice and it has all been done with our dollars and at the expense of the Gospel.

27 posted on 01/26/2006 10:26:19 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: Nihil Obstat

Thank you for that link. I remind everyone of the work of Catholic Relief Services versus the work of the Baptists in the wake of the horrific tsunami. Both groups provided badly needed fresh water and medical supplies. But only one group provided a gospel tract with its aid, and it wasn't CRS.


28 posted on 01/26/2006 10:29:41 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: Salvation

I join you in your prayers.


29 posted on 01/26/2006 11:57:50 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: PAR35

The diocese is relatively small - 124,000 Catholics in 2004.


30 posted on 01/26/2006 12:03:49 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: old and tired

I had to stop giving to CRS after talking to them on the phone one day a couple years ago. Very disappointing. Someone should put together a list of worthy Catholic charites.


31 posted on 01/26/2006 12:14:26 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: bboop
..in coming in, they bring All That is Good from the Protestants -- love and knowing of the Lord, knowledge of the Bible, an understanding of orthodox Christianity...

If the Catholic Church had focused on these things all along, the Evangelicals would never have left it in the first place. Here in Southern California, a majority of Evangelical Protestants are ex-Catholics, and the above list pretty much sums up the reasons why.

32 posted on 01/26/2006 9:55:31 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: countorlock; bboop; Salvation

"Nothing bad could ever come from accepting people's diversity."

First of all, welcome to FR.

Uhhh. A LOT of bad can and has come about from accepting people's so-called "diversity." Diversity circa 2006 is more often a code-word used by practitioners of deviant behavior to try to normalize their deviancy.

I have no doubt that if you were to go talk to NAMBLA, they would ask that you be willing to accept the "diversity" of those who believe that adults should have sex with children.

Blindly accepting people's "diversity" is moral and intellectual sloth. You have to be willing to separate the wheat from the chaff.


33 posted on 01/27/2006 5:10:59 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: RKBA Democrat; bboop; Salvation
First of all, welcome to FR.

Why thank you!

Uhhh. A LOT of bad can and has come about from accepting people's so-called "diversity."

Yes, I agree. I was being just a little facetious with post #8.

34 posted on 01/27/2006 5:19:22 AM PST by countorlock (But thy strong Hours indignant work'd their wills, And beat me down and marr'd and wasted me,)
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To: countorlock

"Yes, I agree. I was being just a little facetious with post #8."

Ahh. Sarcasm! We're/I'm not familiar with your sense of humor yet.

You'll pick up on some FR-culture specific things over time. The "sarcasm-off" tag is one of them. It goes like this:

(/sarcasm)

....indicating that your post or part of your post was intended as sarcasm. Sad to say, we get a lot of trolls on FR so with new folks, we're never quite sure what you mean or where you're coming from until we get to know you over time.

(That goes double for FReepers who happen to be an open-and-notorious Democrats.)

That said, the folks on the religious threads are pretty nice by and large. Once again, welcome!


35 posted on 01/27/2006 6:20:19 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Thanks, I've been lurking for quite a while and I should have known that.


36 posted on 01/27/2006 6:27:55 AM PST by countorlock (But thy strong Hours indignant work'd their wills, And beat me down and marr'd and wasted me,)
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To: Nihil Obstat

I don't remember when I stopped giving to CRS. I know for certain I haven't given them anything since I read the difference between the Baptist's relief and and CRS in the aftermath of the tsunami.


37 posted on 01/27/2006 7:54:37 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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