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A little more food for thought, Ephesians 2;8,9 "for it is by Grace through faith you are saved, and that not of yourself it is a gift of God not of works lest any one should boast." I think it is safe to say that no one would deny that baptism is a physical work. The scripture here is clear that there is no physical work that can save us, not to say now that baptism is not important, no on the other hand I believe it as very important, but it is the action of one who has already accepted Christ. We are not saved by our works, instead we are saved to do those works. There was also a thief on the cross beside Christ, when he questioned our Lord, the scriptures do not state that they hopped down of the cross so he could be baptized, no instead the scriptures tell us that Christ mearly replied "Today you will be with me in paradise." The scriptures are also very clear that God is no respector of persons. This means what he will do for one he will do for all. That being said we are commanded as Christians to follow Gods commands, so if we are truly saved we will have a desire to do as he asked. I guess what I am trying to say is that baptism is not a requirement of Salvation, but if one has truly given their life to Christ, then they will have a desire to follow him in believers baptism. To rely upon baptism for your salvation is to take away from the gift of Grace that God has provided through Christ, and puts an unbearable burden on man to earn his own salvation which cannot be done as our righteousness is as filthy rags.
16 posted on 02/04/2006 8:40:53 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: whispering out loud

Paragraphs, please.

My eyes won't do something like that post.


19 posted on 02/04/2006 8:47:05 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Where in the Bible is baptism referred to as a "work"? I thought it was God Who did the work. (Col 2:12,13) Baptism is no more than simple obedience.


56 posted on 02/05/2006 9:01:55 AM PST by DX10
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