Outing Cardinal Egan (priest now outing the bishops)

Village Voice ^ | February 7, 2006 | Kristen Lombardi

[NYer]

Now we're hitting closer to home :-)

[NYer]

See also the following related article.

Who Would Take a Case Like This? - Someone Mad as Hell, That's Who

[Talking_Mouse]

I know both of us pray every day, at Mass, for Edward, Cardinal Egan. I honestly pray that justice, tempered with mercy, is done in this situation. May the Lord bless all His clergy including Bob Hoatson.

[RobbyS]

Hoatson undermines himself by not admitting that the predators are themselves mostly homosexuals, so the bishops would be protecting their own, so to speak.

[Teófilo]

A campaign is off to destroy the Church and intimidate into silence orthodox Catholics who are working for reform and change.

If these allegations are proven true, church authorities may have walked right into this one and become co-responsible for the implosion, having provided the enemies of the Church with plenty of ammunition to bring her down.

I pray to the Lord that these allegations are not true, for the sake of the Catholic faithful of said dioceses.

-Theo

[ArrogantBustard]

lance the boil

[marshmallow]

That announcement set off a chain of events ending with the so-called White Report, the findings of a private investigation requested by Hubbard and commissioned by diocese's lay review board. Former U.S. prosecutor Mary Jo White, whose name carries great credibility, was paid $770 an hour by the diocese for her four-month inquiry,...... White was paid $2.2 million for a four-month inquiry that ended up clearing Hubbard of all accusations ......

Nice to see how the diocese is spending the widow's mite.

I guess if a diocese has few, if any vocations, and no seminarians to support then there's a few extra dollars kicking around from the Bishop's Annual Appeal. Lawyers are a worthy cause, I guess.

As for the accusations, they're what many of us have thought for a long time and in Hubbard's case, I'd be astounded if he wasn't homosexual. However, these men are entitled to their good name and reputation and I just pray that truth sees the light of day through all of this accusation/counter-accusation mess.

[Iris7]

"To date, according to the Catholic bishops' own figures, 9,660 people nationwide since 1950 have accused 4,089 priests of molesting them. In New York City, 140 victims have named 49 abusive priests; in Albany, it's 141 and 69 respectively."

My younger brother is homosexual - a long story, that, many prayers and tears - and is careful not to "out" his people. Once, though, he said that for all that he hates the Catholic Church "at least they know what to do with homosexuals." He was inferring that he had close personal experience with many, many priests within the "gay" scene.

I wonder who first molested him as a youngster. He will not tell me.

During the last decade or so (my younger brother is 57 years old) I have come to see that I was wrong to be "understanding" and "accepting" of my younger brother's decision to be "gay". His life is ruined most completely.

The "psychobabble" about being an "enabler" turns out to be true in my case. All that I have left are my prayers for mercy for myself and for him.

Anyway, have done some digging, quite a lot, actually, and find that the situation in the American Church is extremely bad. The situation is much worse than almost all Catholics imagine. We are talking heavy duty intimidation of those who question homosexual control of the American Church.

Someone first molested my younger brother. Our Dad was a remote and distant man prone to rages. He drank heavily every day and died young. I figure my brother was looking for love from Dad but, not getting love from Dad went looking for love from some "father figure." I hope it was not a Priest. He will not tell me if it was, or if it was not.

[Ohioan from Florida]

I want the truth to be known, whatever may come from this.

[Malacoda]

I'll pray for you and your brother both.

[Ohioan from Florida]

I will keep you and your younger brother in my prayers.

[Nihil Obstat]

$2,200,00 divided by $770 = 2,857 hours in four months. Nice.

[Palladin]

Let the games begin!

[marshmallow]

LOL!!!

Maybe they gave her a "not guilty" bonus for giving the Bishop the all clear.

[Iris7]

I am sorry. I do so wish there were any doubt, any doubt whatever. There is none.

For many years I went down the road you now tread, trying to deny the evidence and hoping for the best. Eventually I could no longer travel that road. I have been shown that the situation is extreme. Hoatson is making an understated view of the situation. My sources are of the very highest quality.

[Iris7]

Thank you both so very much.

Let us pray for the truly brave, truly valiant, and truly good Priests who daily resist this evil. There are many such Priests. There are more decent Priests who fear causing scandal. There are more Priests yet who have worse motives. I may say no more.

[SuziQ]

A homosexual 'marriage' case must be coming up in one of the major courts, or maybe in New York? Someone is trying to strip the Catholic Church of any credibility in the fight against it, just as it did with Cardinal Law in Boston.

Yes, there were a few priests in the Boston Archdiocese who molested kids, and in my opinion, they should have been thrown out on their a$$es when it was first found out. I have no sympathy for abusers and molesters, but at the time of the abuse, in many cases, the kids' PARENTS chose not to pursue justice for them. That was delayed until they were adults themselves, and it was long overdue.

However, I firmly believe the Boston Globe blew the story out of all proportion to the numbers of abusers involved for a reason. I believe it was done to try to keep the Church from being a strong voice against the homosexual marriage decision. The Globe certainly hasn't pursued child molesters from any other institutions with the same fervor.

[SuziQ]

Maybe they gave her a "not guilty" bonus for giving the Bishop the all clear.

From all that I've ever read about her, Mary Jo White is an upstanding, honest attorney who would not whitewash an investigation. You are suggesting that this is not true. Do you have any evidence of that?