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To: TBP
"The process of creation is a quantum event . . . "

Input, process, output. The logic. It would seem that the quantum is the output of the process. The process would include a list of variables to choose from, then making the choices one decision at a time, then a sequential mixing or manipulation of those variables (data), which produces a particular output which would exist as discrete forms of solidness in the quantum. Or actually is the quantum -- --the product, the output, the creation.

So consciousness must be the programmer. The intelligence that wants to create a product, or a situation.

(I think too many people are nothing but data, things to be processed and manipulated in someone else's programs -- programs written by a lesser and not so benign intelligence.)

Many ways to apply the logic here, TBP. Making my synapses fire at the quantum level.

As above, so below. The 'above' is the intelligence where the program is written, the 'below' is the quantum universe, the product.

Let me offer this model: Perhaps the firing synapses of the intelligence bump into the membrane surrounding the quantum and cause all those little superstrings in the potential to jump around -- which become data points in a micro-program, the output of which become data points, parameters passed to the macro-program, all working in concert to provide a universe.

Now why the universe was created is another topic. I'll think about that.

6 posted on 02/14/2006 9:44:41 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

The computer model of mind is similar to the pre-computer model of afferent-efferent nerves plus memory. We still don't know how the will can cause an efferent nerve to fire. Or at least I don't know. The radio model rather than the computer model seems to apply to the thesis of this article.


7 posted on 02/14/2006 9:50:05 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Eastbound
"Now why the universe was created is another topic. I'll think about that."

Lemme re-word that. Now why the universe is continually created (or re-created) is another topic. I'll think about that.

8 posted on 02/14/2006 9:50:52 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
So consciousness must be the programmer. The intelligence that wants to create a product, or a situation.

As the article says, that consciousness that Goswami describes as "the ground of all being" is both teh programmer and the program. It is the observer and the observed.

As above, so below. The 'above' is the intelligence where the program is written, the 'below' is the quantum universe, the product.

As within, so without. This is how a quantum Universse works. The observer and the observed, the programmer and the program, the above and the below, the internal and the external are aspects of the same quantum wave of the All-in-All.

Let me offer this model: Perhaps the firing synapses of the intelligence bump into the membrane surrounding the quantum and cause all those little superstrings in the potential to jump around -- which become data points in a micro-program, the output of which become data points, parameters passed to the macro-program, all working in concert to provide a universe.

And we do the same thing with our patterns of thought, creating our Universe by the neural connections we create in our brains with our thought.

Now why the universe was created is another topic. I'll think about that.

The Universe continues ot be created anew every moment. "Behold, I make all things new again."

12 posted on 02/14/2006 10:36:03 AM PST by TBP
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