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Former Christian Brian Flemming has made a documentary arguing that the biblical story
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/13/6 | David Ian Miller

Posted on 02/13/2006 10:37:19 AM PST by SmithL

FINDING MY RELIGION:
Former Christian Brian Flemming has made a documentary arguing that the biblical story of Jesus Christ is a myth

Alt In his film "The God Who Wasn't There," Brian Flemming questions the very existence of Jesus Christ, a premise that might leave some hard-core Christians convinced this former Christian is going to hell.

In the film, Flemming argues that the biblical Jesus is a myth, a legend based on allegorical stories that were never supposed to be seen as historical accounts.

It's a provocative claim but not without precedent. Many scholars have questioned the historicity of the Jesus story, although it remains central to Christian beliefs.

Flemming, who now considers himself an atheist, lays out his case in interviews with academics and in conversations with believers outside a Billy Graham rally. He also returns to the evangelical school he attended in Southern California for a confrontational interview with the headmaster.

The film has been criticized by conservative Christian groups like Focus on the Family, which has taken issue with its scholarship, and praised by religious skeptics as an antidote to blind faith. Following a limited theatrical run, "The God Who Wasn't There" has been screening at venues around the country, including many showings sponsored by atheist groups. The DVD went on sale in stores Jan. 31.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: atheist; formerchristian; moviereview; spiritualjourney
The good news for Brian is that there is still time for him to repent.
1 posted on 02/13/2006 10:37:21 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Can't wait for his follow-up film on Mohammed. Waiting...waiting...


2 posted on 02/13/2006 10:38:43 AM PST by Argus
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To: SmithL
Another courageous Hollyweirdo taking on the issue of Islam's treatment of women...er....no.

How about another courageous take on "McCarthyism" and Hollywood blacklisting? Like, it's never been done.

3 posted on 02/13/2006 10:43:23 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: SmithL
The headline indicates enough for any valid Christian to know that this is just more MSM, atheistic cow pie!

Referring to Flemming as "Former Christian" is an oxymoron. Flemming is either a pseudo Christian or a liar, either way, his "documentary" is totally worthless and every genuine Christian recognizes it.

4 posted on 02/13/2006 10:46:28 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: SmithL
"The good news for Brian is that there is still time for him to repent."

The bad news for Brian is that no one has ever really clearly defined what the "unforgivable sin" is. Perhaps this is it.

5 posted on 02/13/2006 10:48:51 AM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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To: SmithL

Intellectuals can argue all they want. There is no end of debate on any issue, including the existence of God or the historicity of Jesus Christ.

Jesus changed my heart overnight, and I did not expect it. I had tried to read a little of the Bible years before, but put it down because it was dry and uninteresting. Suddenly now, the Bible came alive to me. It was as though a voice was speaking the words to me, and revealing their truth. And it all began with a prayer of very small faith, "God, if you're there, I need to know."

He lives. He is risen. Death has no more victory, the grave has no more sting. He is the Resurrection and the Life. He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. He will one day return, and every knee will bow, and every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord.


6 posted on 02/13/2006 10:58:16 AM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: SmithL
'In his film "The God Who Wasn't There," Brian Flemming questions the very existence of Jesus Christ, a premise that might leave some hard-core Christians convinced this former Christian is going to hell."

so who are the soft core Christians that believe he will go to heaven denying Christ?
7 posted on 02/13/2006 11:01:05 AM PST by bremenboy (if any man speak let him speak as the oracles of God)
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so who are the soft core Christians that believe he will go to heaven denying Christ?

The mamby-pamby world council of churches types that would say things like "we ALL are God's children" (according to John 1:10 only those who believe on His name are given the power to be called Children of God, yet there are so-called Christian clerics who often intone that all people are children of God). Such soft core Christians are very easy to find in the religion department at Universities like TCU, SMU, Baylor, etc.

8 posted on 02/13/2006 11:10:06 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Rocky

It's hard to deny Him when you know Him... which is why I question whether Flemming ever knew Him at all.


9 posted on 02/13/2006 11:44:26 AM PST by Chanticleer (May you be gruntled and combobulated in 2006.)
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To: SmithL

Actually, between the gospels, Paul and Josephus, there is more literary evidence for Jesus than for many historical figures that long ago. And it stands to reason, since it is unlikely the apostles would have gone through all the trouble if they were liars or that they were afflicted by mass insanity or hysteria, it stands to reason there was some historical personage upon which the movement of Christianity was based.


10 posted on 02/13/2006 12:48:13 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: SmithL

What would happen if someone were to tell a bunch of Moslems that he was using this attack on Jesus to besmirch the prophet Muhammed?

I'll get the popcorn.


11 posted on 02/13/2006 1:25:48 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: SmithL
One of such ambling mind might read Earl Doherty's The Jesus Puzzle and be dazzled by his case that Christ never existed.

But then one may also read Hyam Maccoby's Revolution In Judaea: Jesus and The Jewish Resistance and his yet much stronger argument that indeed Jesus had lived, died and moreover lived on through his believers.

12 posted on 02/13/2006 2:16:05 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Rocky
Jesus changed my heart overnight, and I did not expect it. I had tried to read a little of the Bible years before, but put it down because it was dry and uninteresting. Suddenly now, the Bible came alive to me.

Ditto bump :-)

13 posted on 02/13/2006 2:18:56 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: SmithL
a legend based on allegorical stories

You know, you'd think whoever wrote that legend could have organized it better so that it had a nice consistent narrative like a top quality legend should.

14 posted on 02/13/2006 3:16:32 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Rocky

Amen.


15 posted on 02/13/2006 3:19:41 PM PST by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Argus
Can't wait for his follow-up film on Mohammed. Waiting...waiting...

Exactly. Must take a big set of cojones to blaspheme a religion founded on the teachings of a pacifist.

Let's see what this kid's made of. Let him make a documentary about Mohammed the pederast.

16 posted on 02/13/2006 3:27:01 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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I don't think Jesus was a pacifist.


17 posted on 02/13/2006 9:48:43 PM PST by therut
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To: SmithL
Wow. A film by a former Christian denying the historicity of Christ. What a shocker. I guess the only things that are real are whatever he believes today.
18 posted on 02/14/2006 6:07:44 AM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: therut
I don't think Jesus was a pacifist.

Compared to Mohammed and His contemporaries he was.

19 posted on 02/14/2006 6:38:01 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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